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Topic: Selling BitCoins = Trouble!? - page 2. (Read 1226 times)

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'That Guy'
June 02, 2013, 08:27:31 AM
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Coinbase has to be registered as money transmitter in this case, not you.

I'm not sure that is correct...
http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/msb.html

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Money Services Business - The term "money services business" includes any person doing business, whether or not on a regular basis or as an organized business concern, in one or more of the following capacities:

(1) Currency dealer or exchanger.
(2) Check casher.
(3) Issuer of traveler's checks, money orders or stored value.
(4) Seller or redeemer of traveler's checks, money orders or stored value.
(5) Money transmitter.
(6) U.S. Postal Service.

An activity threshold of greater than $1,000 per person per day in one or more transactions applies to the definitions of: currency dealer or exchanger; check casher; issuer of traveler's checks, money orders or stored value; and seller or redeemer of travelers' checks, money orders or stored value. The threshold applies separately to each activity -- if the threshold is not met for the specific activity, the person engaged in that activity is not an MSB on the basis of that activity.

No activity threshold applies to the definition of money transmitter. Thus, a person who engages as a business in the transfer of funds is an MSB as a money transmitter, regardless of the amount of money transmission activity.

Notwithstanding the previous discussion, the term "money services business" does not include:

    A bank, as that term is defined in 31 CFR 1010.100(d) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(c)), or
    A person registered with, and regulated or examined by, the Securities and Exchange Commission or the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

For the complete regulatory definition of "money services business", see 31 CFR 1010.100(ff) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(uu)).

Note: Each money services business (MSB) is a financial institution. For the regulatory definition of "financial institution," see 31 CFR 1010.100(t) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(n)).

Or does this only apply to the exchanges?
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June 02, 2013, 08:24:52 AM
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Coinbase has to be registered as money transmitter in this case, not you.
They are transmitting the money for you.
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'That Guy'
June 02, 2013, 08:18:06 AM
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Consider this scenario:

You have about 250 BitCoin and you want to sell on CoinBase or where ever. You sell all the coins and cash out @ current market value of $36,660. Everything goes fine, you report the income on your taxes, but then you are the unlucky 1.2% that gets audited. The IRS sees that you reported the income which is great!, but that you are not registered as a "Money Service / Transmitter Business". Do you have to be registered? Is this a FiCEN requirement for selling BitCoin? Does this only apply if you are running a "business"?

I wish that this statement applied to me, but I only have 1.5 BitCoin. I know A LOT of people selling like this and read about it all the time.
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