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legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 2156
Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
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If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. ...

From the unofficial list of unofficial not rules but suggestions to be interpreted however you wish:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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mprep's forum guidelines reflect his personal opinion as well, hense the "unofficial" in the title. Account sales aren't discouraged by forum administration, because they don't care. If someone sells a trusted account, the chances of that account losing its trust are equally high.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. ...

Yes, and selling accounts is also "frowned upon," or "discouraged."  And yet... default trust members are selling with one hand and neg repping with the other, creating demand for more trusted accounts.

Pretty sure I'll do OK here, have solid grasp on how the trust system works Smiley

*BTW, Haven't answered my question: why is selling my Trust somehow shadier than selling a trusted account? 


The obvious difference is that a person can sell one account that is now one bastardized account.

Doing this we have geometrically more bastardized accounts.

And "they're doing it" is nothing more than whining that anyone over the age of 10 realizes is juvenile justification. 

What you are proposing is wrong.  you know it and so does everyone else.  potentially helping people to scam people is aiding in that scam, regardless of what the forum rules are or who is doing this or that.

you are responsible for your own actions.  you are the individual proposing this.

doing this makes you a scammy piece of crap.  I do hope the community catches up with you on this and I think it likely that it will.  All of your crybaby shit aside, people don't like this type of shit and have seen too much of it.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
New Decentralized Nuclear Hobbit
If you start selling trusts, it would simply beat the purpose of the system. Wouldn't be surprised if thermos takes it down soon. Tongue
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
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If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. ...

From the unofficial list of unofficial not rules but suggestions to be interpreted however you wish:
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18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.
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Yeah, I guess all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

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legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 2156
Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. ...

Yes, and selling accounts is also "frowned upon," or "discouraged."  And yet... default trust members are selling with one hand and neg repping with the other, creating demand for more trusted accounts.

Pretty sure I'll do OK here, have solid grasp on how the trust system works Smiley

*BTW, Haven't answered my question: why is selling my Trust somehow shadier than selling a trusted account? 

If selling accounts was frowned upon or discouraged, more people would leave account sellers negative feedback. People are welcome to if they wish. And I did answer your question, in response, I said, "I didn't say that" in regards to selling trusted accounts being less shady than selling trust. People are welcome to do what they will with their own opinions.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. ...

Yes, and selling accounts is also "frowned upon," or "discouraged."  And yet... default trust members are selling with one hand and neg repping with the other, creating demand for more trusted accounts.

Pretty sure I'll do OK here, have solid grasp on how the trust system works Smiley

*BTW, Haven't answered my question: why is selling my Trust somehow shadier than selling a trusted account? 
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 2156
Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

I didn't say that. You could be kicked from default trust for saying "hello" too much. Its completely up to whoever trusted you in the first place. As you have said, there is no rule saying you can't sell trust, there is also no rule saying you can't give inaccurate feedback. There are no rules to the trust system at all, the community makes up the guidelines, and selling trust is generally frowned upon. The chances of you being removed from default trust by whoever added you in the first place when they find out you are selling trust is incredibly high. And if they don't, whoever added that person to default trust may re evaluate based on that person's inaction.

That said, I do believe this is all a hypothetical situation, because anyone actually on default trust understands how it works better than what you are displaying. Not to say that this hypothetical question isn't worth addressing.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
...because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust...

Interesting. So you're saying that selling Trust is shady and might get me kicked from default trust, but selling an account with green trust is ...not shady?
The difference being?

...How much are you charging? I might know someone who is interested if the price is right.

I'm sad to say BespokeServicesLTD is not of yet prosperous enough to start enabling our direct competitors.
Soon.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)

Selling trust is not against the forum rules.  If it was a bad thing, theymos would have made a rule against it.
That said, you are posting to up your post count, and I'm happy to legitimize your comment with a reply.
Remember my kindness, and consider purchasing Trust from BespokeServicesLTD when you feel you can afford it.
Thank you.
How much are you charging? I might know someone who is interested if the price is right.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)

Selling trust is not against the forum rules.  If it was a bad thing, theymos would have made a rule against it.
That said, you are posting to up your post count, and I'm happy to legitimize your comment with a reply.
Remember my kindness, and consider purchasing Trust from BespokeServicesLTD when you feel you can afford it.
Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 2156
Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Why should anything happen?  The Trust is mine, I have earned it, I can do with it as I choose, so I sell it.
There are no rules against selling Trust, I have delineated some plausible scenarios how bought trust could be used ethically, so not sure what your objection is?

What happens to Bob, a seller of trusted accounts, if Alice decides to rat him out?

Thats for whoever gave you your trust to decide. If you earn trust and then scam somebody, well you earned your trust previously, why should you lose it? Trust is a dynamic thing, if the person who added you to default trust no longer trusts you because you are doing something shady (selling trust is considered shady) then they are completely within their rights to remove you from default trust. If the person who trusted you doesn't take action, then the person who trusted them can take action, etc etc.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
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Okay, but if we suppose that Alice will buy a positive from Bob (he is in the defaultTrust list | 2). After Alice will tell that Bob is selling positive trust... what do you think it will happen?

Why should anything happen?  The Trust is mine, I have earned it, I can do with it as I choose, so I sell it.
There are no rules against selling Trust, I have delineated some plausible scenarios how bought trust could be used ethically, so not sure what your objection is?

What happens to Bob, a seller of trusted accounts, if Alice decides to rat him out?
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
... phony trust ...

I assure you, my trust is 100% real.  I have earned it, and now I'm making it available those who can afford it.
Save up your Satoshis, don't drug or gamble, and someday you'll be able to buy some Trust of your own.
And I'll be ready to sell it to you.

In the meantime, I thank you in advance for GTFO my thread.





If it is real then you are 100% an asshole.

I was convinced you were just trolling and poking a bit of fun.   I mean who could be so dumb as to not know where to put something for sale and choose Meta?  Anyone with anything more than a brain stem rolling around in their head could figure out that this is not the proper category.

but you insist otherwise, so at your insistence, now you're simply a piece of shit.

or a troll

or what results when a troll and a piece of shit mate.



whatever the case, I think I'll hang for a while.  how much is this phony trust anyhow?  If you're going to sell something you need to hone that sales pitch a bit I think.  and I am here to help.

full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
I like nuts
You shouldnt be selling trust ratings at all. This will only get your default trust removed and/or banned. Abusing the trust system is not allowed(I think)
But if you really want that, post it into digital goods or services (Marketplace)
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1043
#Free market
... phony trust ...

I assure you, my trust is 100% real.  I have earned it, and now I'm making it available those who can afford it.
Save up your Satoshis, don't drug or gamble, and someday you'll be able to buy some Trust of your own.
And I'll be ready to sell it to you.

In the meantime, I thank you in advance for GTFO my thread.



Okay, but if we suppose that Alice will buy a positive from Bob (he is in the defaultTrust list | 2). After Alice will tell that Bob is selling positive trust... what do you think it will happen?
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
... phony trust ...

I assure you, my trust is 100% real.  I have earned it, and now I'm making it available those who can afford it.
Save up your Satoshis, don't drug or gamble, and someday you'll be able to buy some Trust of your own.
And I'll be ready to sell it to you.

In the meantime, I thank you in advance for GTFO my thread.

MadZ: This account was already negative-ratted by Quickseller and a totally unrelated user who is totally not Quickseller within a few seconds after his comment.

Of course this account is not going to be trusted, that's why I plan to use a reputable escrow service.
hero member
Activity: 908
Merit: 657
I'm not sure how you expect this to work. Yes, selling trust isn't against the rules, but whoever has you in their trust list is going to remove you as soon as they see what you are doing. It will be pretty obvious, however cleverly you think you can do it.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 2156
Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Allow me to direct your attention to the topic post, which was edited down for your convenience.

the first post in this thread:

Services. Although your default trust account would likely get removed pretty quickly.

everyone's warning are true though.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Yep, you can sell trust of course, but it will be valueless, because no one at the higher level is trusting your account Smiley

It will be like selling hot air, but it's ok if you find someone that want to buy it Grin

Good luck!

Allow me to direct your attention to the topic post, which was edited down for your convenience.
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Let's say I own a default trust account and decided to make a few bucks by helping people out. ...

Pentax:
You clearly have nothing to contribute to the discussion.  Your foul language tells me that, according to Gandhi, BespokeServicesLTD has entered the "then they fight you" phase.

Kindly delete your post.


The short answer is blow me.

As you have already pointed out, this is my forum as much as yours. 

I'm sure Gandhi would approve of your selling of trust.  Maybe you can get a look-alike to do a commercial for this silly scam.

Special Today Only!  Use the sale code MAHATMA at checkout and to get 25% off your phony trust and a free copy of my e-book "The Troll's Handbook to Passive Resistance"  Tell em Bapu sent you!

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Yep, you can sell trust of course, but it will be valueless, because no one at the higher level is trusting your account Smiley

It will be like selling hot air, but it's ok if you find someone that want to buy it Grin

Good luck!

Allow me to direct your attention to the topic post, which was edited down for your convenience.
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Let's say I own a default trust account and decided to make a few bucks by helping people out. ...

Pentax:
You clearly have nothing to contribute to the discussion.  Your foul language tells me that, according to Gandhi, BespokeServicesLTD has entered the "then they fight you" phase.

Kindly delete your post.
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