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legendary
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September 19, 2015, 11:17:20 PM
#27
You'd be best refraining from giving out negative trust to someone using terms such as "won't escrow" or "use escrow" where you haven't first posted such caution in the thread to the OP where all can see (OP included) that you have first advised the OP of the risk of PayPal (or similar reversible payment methods) and then if the OP rejects the advice slapping a negative might be warranted.

Absolutely. That's good advise, but in this case, unfortunately moot. He had already been contacted to find out more details of his terms and insisted that the buyer send first and reputable escrow would not be used. And I hadn't realized that you replied to my PM. I'll have to dig back a few pages as I believe it probably got lost in the PM white noise.
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 19, 2015, 10:55:24 PM
#26
An hour after Tomatocage posted the previous to this message this newbie signed up.

Scammed me of 235usd, do not trust.... Paypal wont refund as i sent as gift.

...and his first post was to try to buy 50 BTC

I would like to buy 50btc... PM me

... and no previous messages from this newbie in this thread to make contact.

IDK, it *looks* a little sus...  Roll Eyes

Yeah I'm calling BS on that one too. Looks like someone just reg'd it and thought he'd be cute. Turing56, if you sent him PayPal, what was his PayPal address?
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
#25

... lot of Blah ...

Don't forget if you fall off your DT perch, then all your negative trusts become meaningless...

...and I'd like to remind you of my PM reply to your PM to me, I am considering your message to me.

Regards,

Which is why I wrote this

Follow up on tomatocage / extraKrispy ...

I got a message from tomatocage about his transactions and why he used extraKrispy's account which sounds plausible, but have to read further into it, (no mention one way or the other about the self escrowing, but am still reading...

the same day you sent your message.
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 07:24:24 PM
#24
Yep... and here you are again handing out negative trust / feedback and "suggesting" the user uses escrow - which you have admitted to self escrowing previously.

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BitcoinGB1106 -8: -3 / +0   2015-09-16   0.00000000   Reference   PayPal scammer. Insists that you send PayPal first and he will not fund escrow.

I'm confused, so please help me understand this (granted, I did just wake up). How do you interpret my rating with anything remotely resembling a suggestion that he uses escrow (and I'm guessing you're trying to imply that would give me a chance of receiving the job). It clearly states that BitcoinGB1106 will NOT use escrow. I guess I'm confused on how I could have been more clear about it.

You'd be best refraining from giving out negative trust to someone using terms such as "won't escrow" or "use escrow" where you haven't first posted such caution in the thread to the OP where all can see (OP included) that you have first advised the OP of the risk of PayPal (or similar reversible payment methods) and then if the OP rejects the advice slapping a negative might be warranted.

I say might because the OP might not understand the risk involved in using a reversible payment method and reply politely, however, if the OP were to become belligerent in rejecting the suggestion of escrow, then negative trust would be warranted.

Don't forget if you fall off your DT perch, then all your negative trusts become meaningless...

...and I'd like to remind you of my PM reply to your PM to me, I am considering your message to me.

Regards,
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 07:10:20 PM
#23
An hour after Tomatocage posted the previous to this message this newbie signed up.

Scammed me of 235usd, do not trust.... Paypal wont refund as i sent as gift.

...and his first post was to try to buy 50 BTC

I would like to buy 50btc... PM me

... and no previous messages from this newbie in this thread to make contact.

IDK, it *looks* a little sus...  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Merit: 1077
September 19, 2015, 06:44:32 PM
#22
Scammed me of 235usd, do not trust.... Paypal wont refund as i sent as gift.

Really? You sent $235 to a brand new user?

Any proof of this?
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 06:17:55 PM
#21
Scammed me of 235usd, do not trust.... Paypal wont refund as i sent as gift.
Maybe you could clearly say who you scammed? whether you started scamm accusation thread? Or you have proof?
newbie
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September 19, 2015, 05:35:47 PM
#20
Scammed me of 235usd, do not trust.... Paypal wont refund as i sent as gift.
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 19, 2015, 10:34:33 AM
#19
Yep... and here you are again handing out negative trust / feedback and "suggesting" the user uses escrow - which you have admitted to self escrowing previously.

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BitcoinGB1106 -8: -3 / +0   2015-09-16   0.00000000   Reference   PayPal scammer. Insists that you send PayPal first and he will not fund escrow.

I'm confused, so please help me understand this (granted, I did just wake up). How do you interpret my rating with anything remotely resembling a suggestion that he uses escrow (and I'm guessing you're trying to imply that would give me a chance of receiving the job). It clearly states that BitcoinGB1106 will NOT use escrow. I guess I'm confused on how I could have been more clear about it.
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 10:17:09 AM
#18
Why did the OP get a negative trust from this? I don't see anything that necessarily made me think that he was trying the send-first PayPal scam.

Tomatocage is one of the users on what's called the Default Trust where they arbitrarily give out negative feedback, in the past he and Quickseller would also attach "use escrow" and then offer themselves up as the escrow agent without revealing that they are both the buyer and the escrow.

Tomatocage today has worded his negative feedback very carefully to imply the OP is trying something on (ie PayPal scam) without using the term "use escrow" no doubt another newbie will come on and suggest escrow and months later we'll find out that it was another Alt of Tomatocage.

Since Quickseller was outted as an escrow scammer persons on the DT and others have posted advice in the form of replies to the OP's instead of arbitrarily giving the OP negative feedback / trust without a chance to respond (ie using terms "I will remove if they ...")

You can add Tomatocage to you list of untrustworthy in the trust --> Trust Settings --> then put ~Tomatocage in your Trust list (as untrustworthy by adding the tilda "~" before his name..

Quoted for preservation, and trust rating has been removed. I'll revisit the matter later, if needed.

Yep... and here you are again handing out negative trust / feedback and "suggesting" the user uses escrow - which you have admitted to self escrowing previously.

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BitcoinGB1106 -8: -3 / +0   2015-09-16   0.00000000   Reference   PayPal scammer. Insists that you send PayPal first and he will not fund escrow.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 19, 2015, 10:13:57 AM
#17
Why did the OP get a negative trust from this? I don't see anything that necessarily made me think that he was trying the send-first PayPal scam.

Tomatocage is one of the users on what's called the Default Trust where they arbitrarily give out negative feedback, in the past he and Quickseller would also attach "use escrow" and then offer themselves up as the escrow agent without revealing that they are both the buyer and the escrow.

Tomatocage today has worded his negative feedback very carefully to imply the OP is trying something on (ie PayPal scam) without using the term "use escrow" no doubt another newbie will come on and suggest escrow and months later we'll find out that it was another Alt of Tomatocage.

Since Quickseller was outted as an escrow scammer persons on the DT and others have posted advice in the form of replies to the OP's instead of arbitrarily giving the OP negative feedback / trust without a chance to respond (ie using terms "I will remove if they ...")

You can add Tomatocage to you list of untrustworthy in the trust --> Trust Settings --> then put ~Tomatocage in your Trust list (as untrustworthy by adding the tilda "~" before his name..

Quoted for preservation, and trust rating has been removed. I'll revisit the matter later, if needed.
legendary
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September 19, 2015, 09:55:31 AM
#16
TimeLord is just sore that I gave one of his scam accounts negative Trust. Damn autocorrect.

...and yet you haven't posted a scam accusation in the scam accusation section, nore have you used the phrase "this user is an alt of Timelord2067..." in your own trust section...

...so no... you haven't.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
September 18, 2015, 08:58:51 PM
#15
They will never stop tying to scam people asking for a trade that includes Paypal.
Sometimes as a buyer, sometimes as a seller...
They try to pull you to the happy end for them --> "the scam end"  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1222
brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 18, 2015, 08:50:46 PM
#14
TimeLord is just sore that I gave one of his scam accounts negative Trust. Damn autocorrect.
legendary
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September 18, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
#13
Why did the OP get a negative trust from this? I don't see anything that necessarily made me think that he was trying the send-first PayPal scam.

Tomatocage is one of the users on what's called the Default Trust where they arbitrarily give out negative feedback, in the past he and Quickseller would also attach "use escrow" and then offer themselves up as the escrow agent without revealing that they are both the buyer and the escrow.

Tomatocage today has worded his negative feedback very carefully to imply the OP is trying something on (ie PayPal scam) without using the term "use escrow" no doubt another newbie will come on and suggest escrow and months later we'll find out that it was another Alt of Tomatocage.

Since Quickseller was outted as an escrow scammer persons on the DT and others have posted advice in the form of replies to the OP's instead of arbitrarily giving the OP negative feedback / trust without a chance to respond (ie using terms "I will remove if they ...")

You can add Tomatocage to you list of untrustworthy in the trust --> Trust Settings --> then put ~Tomatocage in your Trust list (as untrustworthy by adding the tilda "~" before his name..
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 18, 2015, 05:08:01 PM
#12
hi I have multiple paypal stealth accounts.
I'm looking for a long term partnership to exchange to BTC.
need quickly around 5k usd, more in future, but we can start slow and build confidence.
My partner got an issue and I need a backup.
If interested PM me for skype/email.
Thank you.
full member
Activity: 176
Merit: 100
September 18, 2015, 04:06:20 PM
#11
Why did the OP get a negative trust from this? I don't see anything that necessarily made me think that he was trying the send-first PayPal scam.
legendary
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Merit: 1080
September 18, 2015, 11:24:38 AM
#10
Becareful using PayPal as a seller. The buyer can dispute a bitcoin transaction and paypal will give them their money back quickly. There are no protections in the PayPal ToS to save the seller from chargebacks.
member
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September 18, 2015, 11:22:53 AM
#9
Can use tell me rates or any escrows you want to use ?
full member
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September 18, 2015, 10:54:55 AM
#8
I can exchange bitcoin dollars to paypal dollars


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