Selling of merits and btctalk accounts

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Quote from: wiik on February 25, 2019, 09:23:09 AM

I actually hated it when BCT added the merit system . I mean it will be very hard to rank up now compared to the system before wherein you just keep posting anything

Having too much freedom in posting is a pretty dumb Idea when you are in a forum, why? If you are someone wanting to buy a brand new car. You probably want to go to Junk yard(I hope that would make sense in you). There are certain rules and rules were made not for someone but for everyone's improvement.

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Account selling is already there tho even before the merit system . After the merit system was intorduced , I feel like that BCT accounts are now higher in value . Merit selling is present also , but we have active members here on BCT who keeps track of those people who are involved in these kind of exchange/selling of merits.

Of course we cannot actually remove it but as long as we keep it on a very low key status then things will still go as we wanted to. Trust system tho can be used to punished proven bought accounts and who is behind it.

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Quote from: frostmourne0311 on October 04, 2018, 11:51:45 AM

Merit is now quite hard to earn, so someone who cant earn it choose buying account have at least 1 merit to conduct bounty campaign in this forum.

Indeed it is, but that will not be worth the effort as once someone caught you (and seller), you will get bad trust and will make your accounts (literally) worthless. Specially for the seller as he lost his established account compared to buyer who just had newbie/jr member account.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on March 05, 2019, 07:23:52 AM

seems easy to you when you say that merits are free and given by anyone but its actually hard to earn it especially if you are on the guys situation were he cant merely speak a good english and cant hardly compose an understandable sentence.

I don't literally mean 'free' but I said it's 'freely' given. I hope you know what's the difference between those two. Hence, I know how hard to get a merit especially english isn't your native language but this shouldn't hinder us. Just speak freely and let your idea speaks.
Yet the thing is, don't try too hard to get one, if someone appreciate your post then it will be.

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Quote from: BitBustah on March 05, 2019, 01:11:04 PM

It is incredibly unfair for people that joined after but I guess thats how life goes.

Blame the shitposters and spammers for the unfairness you perceive that's happening, because it was they who are responsible for the merit system being created. If idiots weren't making this forum unreadable by trying to crank out as much garbage as humanly possible, there would have been no need for merits.

By the way, life is unfair and it's a problem we all share, and thus nobody wants to hear any whining about it. I'd also add that merits can be gotten on the local boards too, so you don't necessarily have to be able to write perfect English to get them. That's just an excuse, and nobody is a victim because they haven't earned any merits. Some people just can't write well in any language, and some people are just lazy and want everything handed to them.

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Quote from: wiik on February 25, 2019, 09:23:09 AM

I actually hated it when BCT added the merit system . I mean it will be very hard to rank up now compared to the system before wherein you just keep posting anything . Account selling is already there tho even before the merit system . After the merit system was intorduced , I feel like that BCT accounts are now higher in value . Merit selling is present also , but we have active members here on BCT who keeps track of those people who are involved in these kind of exchange/selling of merits.

The problem with the new system is that the majority of the Full Members and higher have received ranks without doing anything for it, however, they can be fraudsters or provide false information, hiding behind their rank. This is wrong! When introducing a new system, it was necessary to reset all accounts.

Thats one of the major problems, many people achieved hero and legendary status just by spamming before the merit system was introduced. It is incredibly unfair for people that joined after but I guess thats how life goes.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on March 05, 2019, 07:23:52 AM

seems easy to you when you say that merits are free and given by anyone but its actually hard to earn it especially if you are on the guys situation were he cant merely speak a good english and cant hardly compose an understandable sentence . also , scammers are not only going on telegram but scammers are everywhere even in the offline world there are lots of them but no one can get scammed if the people will only be wise .

Lol, I felt guilty as what you have said because until now I didn't get enough merit or I am just a noob but I won't accept my self as a shitposter because I think my replies have a sense though. Wink

Well, I'm maybe just lucky I've reached this rank before merit rules were implemented.
Selling and Buying accounts is very risky especially if you don't know who is your dealing with, maybe scammer or what. The best thing to do is just stay away on this kind of behavior.

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Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

Then no one has to blame but your friend, I'm pretty sure he/she is familiar with this forum that's why he/she decided to buy accounts with merits. Moral lesson is not to buy accounts, simply as that. Just work your ass off, contributed to the discussions, then sooner or later merits will come.

And not to mention that scammers had flocked to telegram since they see that opportunity is there. I'm not sure what had gotten to that "friend" to buy such merit, is he that hopeless? It's weird that there are people will buy it as merit is freely given when someone appreciate your post or even he don't but the idea is unique and useful.

seems easy to you when you say that merits are free and given by anyone but its actually hard to earn it especially if you are on the guys situation were he cant merely speak a good english and cant hardly compose an understandable sentence . also , scammers are not only going on telegram but scammers are everywhere even in the offline world there are lots of them but no one can get scammed if the people will only be wise .

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 22, 2019, 11:21:13 AM

Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

Then no one has to blame but your friend, I'm pretty sure he/she is familiar with this forum that's why he/she decided to buy accounts with merits. Moral lesson is not to buy accounts, simply as that. Just work your ass off, contributed to the discussions, then sooner or later merits will come.

And not to mention that scammers had flocked to telegram since they see that opportunity is there. I'm not sure what had gotten to that "friend" to buy such merit, is he that hopeless? It's weird that there are people will buy it as merit is freely given when someone appreciate your post or even he don't but the idea is unique and useful.

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Quote from: frostmourne0311 on October 04, 2018, 11:51:45 AM

Merit is now quite hard to earn, so someone who cant earn it choose buying account have at least 1 merit to conduct bounty campaign in this forum.

And that's where you guys come into the picture. All bounty whores are finding it hard to get a least a merit to continue their journey here, but alas, merit buying/selling is the obvious way to go. But one way or another you will be caught by those members helping to clean up this forum and reported.

If they caught having multiple accounts in this forum then as what they have implemented on the rules and regulations not only alt accounts will be banned but also the main user so that you could never access into this forum again.

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If your post is constructive and you confident that someone will gives you merit there is no reason for the person to buy merit because it is not good for you. Once they caught for sure they will have consequences . Selling bitcointalk also is not allowed here because you can create your account if you want it's free to have an account but the rank is low but you can rank up it but maintain your good quality post so you can get merits from your post.

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Quote from: wiik on February 25, 2019, 09:23:09 AM

I actually hated it when BCT added the merit system . I mean it will be very hard to rank up now compared to the system before wherein you just keep posting anything . Account selling is already there tho even before the merit system . After the merit system was intorduced , I feel like that BCT accounts are now higher in value . Merit selling is present also , but we have active members here on BCT who keeps track of those people who are involved in these kind of exchange/selling of merits.

The problem with the new system is that the majority of the Full Members and higher have received ranks without doing anything for it, however, they can be fraudsters or provide false information, hiding behind their rank. This is wrong! When introducing a new system, it was necessary to reset all accounts.

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I actually hated it when BCT added the merit system . I mean it will be very hard to rank up now compared to the system before wherein you just keep posting anything . Account selling is already there tho even before the merit system . After the merit system was intorduced , I feel like that BCT accounts are now higher in value . Merit selling is present also , but we have active members here on BCT who keeps track of those people who are involved in these kind of exchange/selling of merits.

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Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

If your friend got scammed buying merits it wasn't too bad for him...
If he bought merit and got caught here he would be banned... so at least he didn't loose his account ;-)

Today buying merits is forbinden but buying accounts is only not recomended...
For me both such activities are not fair to other users who work on their rank by themselves for months or years...

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I haven't seen buying or selling of merits but have seen many I mean many threads of buying and selling of Bitcoin talk accounts. I would say everyone should report the person who is encouraging the sale of merits and accounts and let those people get red tagged so they don't get to continue their ways.

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Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

I'm thinking so too that it should be looked into. If someone can be red trusted for buying or selling an account if caught, it means is an offense or a violation of forum rule.

Red trust in simple term means a punishment for an offence or allegation (because, some are not also genuinely given).

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If you think you have the ability to make high quality post you dont need to buy merits, you will only waste your money or else you will get scammed.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 22, 2019, 11:21:13 AM

Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

Then no one has to blame but your friend, I'm pretty sure he/she is familiar with this forum that's why he/she decided to buy accounts with merits. Moral lesson is not to buy accounts, simply as that. Just work your ass off, contributed to the discussions, then sooner or later merits will come.

This is the hardest part thats why most people who do knew about this forum and the opportunity on making money do plan to buy accounts
to rush up the process without even knowing that it is against the rules. Gaining merit might be easy for some but on most people specially newbies
will really need to focus on how to contribute into conversation into the community.

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Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

Then no one has to blame but your friend, I'm pretty sure he/she is familiar with this forum that's why he/she decided to buy accounts with merits. Moral lesson is not to buy accounts, simply as that. Just work your ass off, contributed to the discussions, then sooner or later merits will come.

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Quote from: Akagum on February 22, 2019, 07:06:02 AM

My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

It wont really be needed since this forum alone would be the great place for those noobs to read up some guides and advices.Buying merits is prohibited on the first place and why your friend
do tend to buy? There are lots of scammers even though he successfully buy some merits and once caught then his account would be still painted in red so its still useless.

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My friend got scammed the other day, but not on this forum. He was scammed in a telegram group where merits and accounts are sold.
I think this issue should be looked into so the innocent people are not scammed of their funds.

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Merits in bitcointalk are giving free by member to another member if you knew someone who sell their merits, you can make a thread in bitcointalk reputation board but selling of accounts is allowable but not encouraging anyone to sell their accounts.

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Quote from: deus030518 on October 11, 2018, 12:49:06 AM

Selling of merit is not a good idea you should not sell merit to others because its unfair or the one who do their best post that they can just to earn that merit so for me you should not sell merit and the one that who should have this merit is the one who can post a helpful reply to the thread not the one who buys the merit. Even though you want to sell it just to earn you should not sell it.

That’s right, I too think that it is not fair for many people. I’ve read some post which mentioned about this problem, and almost all people suppose that it’s such a bad action in the market, and need to eliminate this act. Do you know why people are much keen on having a large amout of merits which leads to sell and buy merits in btctalk forum?. As I think, the reason why people have trend to buy and sell merits is, many people are prone to appreciate the writings of some who has more merit. As we all know that merit is the prize which is given to some who has a good or high quality writings, thus the more merit one has, the better evaluation he get from other . Most of us tend to keep on eye on the person who has many merits that leads to selling and buying in this forum.

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Quote from: petermike on October 14, 2018, 03:33:10 AM

Quote from: onebtcforlife on October 13, 2018, 11:22:37 PM

Quote from: Sihab76 on October 13, 2018, 10:48:46 AM

Selling merits and buying or selling bitcointalk.org account two both punishable action... Which is enrolled by forum moderators.. If they identify they give negative trust obviously.

People are happily buying the bitcoin accounts but for merits buying is really very bad idea and if moderator find you definitely they ban our accounts. We have to be very careful with the merit strategy because moderators will have an eye on it.

I do not like trading bitcointalk accounts and merrit for people with no knowledge of crypto and those with bad intentions. Trading bans will make this environment cleaner.

I do agree because people need higher ranks accounts in order to be beneficial from the signature campaigns. We don't know who is buying the Bitcointalk account and who are buying merits but if the moderator finds definitely they ban you without any intimations.

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Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Well it is hard to stop those kind of transactions because other owner of btctalk accounts are gone for business so for me it is not that bad but possibly it will became as what others I think planned to do. We can never tell what people want to do but we can use that transaction for us to be familiar so that we can also be in that kind of system

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Quote from: Sihab76 on October 13, 2018, 10:48:46 AM

Selling merits and buying or selling bitcointalk.org account two both punishable action... Which is enrolled by forum moderators.. If they identify they give negative trust obviously.

Its really not acceptable because selling BTT Account is not a good idea. Also when you want to buy account here, you will still be identified later on. I know its hard to rank up now here in this forum, and this is why a lot of people wants an easy step to earn money, but they just don’t understand the real value of hard work and having a lot of patience. Selling btt account is also a way to scam people, so if you see someone posting about selling their account, better to report it right away.

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I can understand that you saw a lot of cases of hacked accounts, the Meta board is full of threads of almost each case support. But how could you see merit selling? No, I do not say that it's not happening, but as I know the deal is providing through PM and social networks, so, you couldn't actually see it and mark it as "a lot", coz who knows how much cases of merit selling really succeed.

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Quote from: Shafiqul Islam on October 18, 2018, 07:37:36 AM

Selling of merits and bitcoin talk account is punishable.if one can sell his /her account and merits he /she must get negative trust from moderator if moderator know .

I hope newbies and small rank members only can be involved in this attempt however there are many trusted moderators whoever looking into that and managing scams happening on this forum like selling merits, Steeling the accounts by hacking it and etc...
Soon we may not find these people whoever doing these things, maximum this moderators helping the forum to be clean without the dumpyard spams.

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Quote from: Maricel2017 on October 10, 2018, 08:07:57 AM

You should report if you see some users or members selling his/her merit points it is prohibited, merit points should give to those post have more quality and having some knowledge that can helps many members in thia community.
Moderators can double check the account that you been reported and i am sure they will tagged them or worstly they will banned.

Yep that is true, everyone can report if there are several accounts that send merit to each other, I am often interested if I find an account that has a lot of merit so I try to see some accounts that send merit to the account, if there is something strange then the account it can be suspected.

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Selling of merits and bitcoin talk account is punishable.if one can sell his /her account and merits he /she must get negative trust from moderator if moderator know .

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There are diffrent people who need it for diffrent purposes.

Myself i bought it for a friend so he could post images on his service thread 2 years back
I know people who were looking for accounts with big amounts of postings (rank was not important) so they could add advertisement in their signatures which is in the longrun way cheaper than
paying for peoples signature.

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Quote from: Thule on October 13, 2018, 05:30:57 PM

Some people buy these accounts to not scam other people but to use features on this forum which they can't use with young accounts they may own.

What features do people buy accounts for?

We have copper membership. What else do you need? Don't try to tell me that people are buying accounts just so they can have an avatar Roll Eyes

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First of all, the said buying and selling of accounts is unfair and doesnt have any sense if the transaction succeeds. The previous owner have his own intellect and every account should be only for one person only. This type of transactions are moderated because of that reasons.

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There are many I've seen people selling their account, and I tried to find out what's the reason for selling their accounts and mostly is because the out from cryptocurrencies, but I don't know if is that true or just another way to make a scam. But one of the expert has told me that I need to get away from those kinda thing. So, just aware yourself and try to not getting practice if you don't know nothing.

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Selling merits for money dishonors the purpose of inventing it. The loyalty is disobeyed, the community is disrespected. Need to look at it very seriously. I understand in difficulties in getting the merits to rank up, but thats how it has to followed. Obviously it takes time to receive a merit but need to wait patiently keeping up your constructive posts. Selling off accounts does not harm much and it depends on the individuals.

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Quote from: onebtcforlife on October 13, 2018, 11:22:37 PM

Quote from: Sihab76 on October 13, 2018, 10:48:46 AM

Selling merits and buying or selling bitcointalk.org account two both punishable action... Which is enrolled by forum moderators.. If they identify they give negative trust obviously.

People are happily buying the bitcoin accounts but for merits buying is really very bad idea and if moderator find you definitely they ban our accounts. We have to be very careful with the merit strategy because moderators will have an eye on it.

I do not like trading bitcointalk accounts and merrit for people with no knowledge of crypto and those with bad intentions. Trading bans will make this environment cleaner.

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Quote from: Sihab76 on October 13, 2018, 10:48:46 AM

Selling merits and buying or selling bitcointalk.org account two both punishable action... Which is enrolled by forum moderators.. If they identify they give negative trust obviously.

People are happily buying the bitcoin accounts but for merits buying is really very bad idea and if moderator find you definitely they ban our accounts. We have to be very careful with the merit strategy because moderators will have an eye on it.

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Quote from: Sihab76 on October 13, 2018, 10:48:46 AM

Selling merits and buying or selling bitcointalk.org account two both punishable action... Which is enrolled by forum moderators.. If they identify they give negative trust obviously.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.Selling accounts is approved by the bitcointalk staff and rules.
Some people buy these accounts to not scam other people but to use features on this forum which they can't use with young accounts they may own.

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Selling merits and buying or selling bitcointalk.org account two both punishable action... Which is enrolled by forum moderators.. If they identify they give negative trust obviously.

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Come to thing of it, all moderators are saying member should reprot anybody trading merit anything close to that. But do you think people will actually reprot that? every newbie member also want this merit by all means, if they see anybody who is ready to trade it for them they are ready to buy just to secure the jnr member acct or above.
As we can see when all jrn member account was demoted back to Newbie btctalk moderator upload a thread to pay for copper member and a lot of peolpe willingly just to get promoted even though no merit was credited be still want a better account for signatures.
So if it merit someone want to sell won't it b purchased? will they report that person selling it since he/she is the answer to their problem? how will other moderators know someone is selling merit to other people?.
Please lets think about this becuase its not going to work out the way u think it will i guess.

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Anybody is free to do what ever he likes. However, to my own personal opinion, the sale of bitcointalk account is bad. Besides, the person that sale to you still have access to the account why just wasting time, you create you own. Finally, I will like to use this medium to appeal to moderator on bitcointalk that they should please, revisit the rules.

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Each of the members in the forum are free to do anything they want, whether they are abiding the rules or not in the forums. Now, selling accounts on bitcointalk or selling merits are against the rules and policy if you caught in the act. Then, the usually things happens if they caught, the buyers who bought that btt account will be issue negative trust(the account that has been sell), that's the things I new about it.

Show me the rule were it says selling accounts are not allowed ?
Cause i can show you a thread by the global mod saying it is allowed!

Also if you claim selling accounts is not allowed then i'm asking myself why are all the big legendary accounts who are lending money till now not tagged ?
They are taking bitcointalk accounts as collateral and you wanna tell me they are not going to use them when somebody doesn't pay ?

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DT tagging of accounts seems good enough to me for now,

What if they are the biggest abusers ?

Lauda was a Mod who was kicked for his abuse and his gang DT members and still

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-and-lauda-just-got-merit-2829282

Lauda even abused his position as Mod so much that people opened an own subreddit for Lauda's abuse

And do Mods much ?No i got tons of messages of Mods supporting me back when i was fighting against that gang and still they couldn't do much and theymos is extremly slow

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Selling of merit is not a good idea you should not sell merit to others because its unfair or the one who do their best post that they can just to earn that merit so for me you should not sell merit and the one that who should have this merit is the one who can post a helpful reply to the thread not the one who buys the merit. Even though you want to sell it just to earn you should not sell it.

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Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Each of the members in the forum are free to do anything they want, whether they are abiding the rules or not in the forums. Now, selling accounts on bitcointalk or selling merits are against the rules and policy if you caught in the act. Then, the usually things happens if they caught, the buyers who bought that btt account will be issue negative trust(the account that has been sell), that's the things I new about it.

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DT tagging of accounts seems good enough to me for now, considering doing this effectively nulls the ability of an affected account to be used in a signature campaign for monetary gain. I don't think anyone believes that merit is not flawed, but it's mostly working for now, with a number of people keeping a close eye on merit transfer to ensure that the sales of merit on this forum are kept to a minimum. The consensus is that you can do whatever you want with your merit unless you're selling it.

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Quote from: Strufmbae on October 10, 2018, 10:44:11 AM

Quote from: hermankoles on October 04, 2018, 06:13:17 PM

selling merit is a violation because the rules about it are clear.

It is not a violation actually it is a prohibition to those who does not support it. As you can see most of the known sections where shitposters make a thread and spam it with their own accounts and toss merit to one of their accounts is a clear illegitimate way to rank up, check reputation section you'll see tons of negged accounts because they're busted.

Then he has to read the thread by theymos to understand how the merits and other things has been shared here. If yo hasn't to invest your fund and get the merits it take the negative trust only finally to the account.
So you need to clarify the doubts and learn the rules before you gonna buy the any here

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Quote from: hermankoles on October 04, 2018, 06:13:17 PM

selling merit is a violation because the rules about it are clear.

It is not a violation actually it is a prohibition to those who does not support it. As you can see most of the known sections where shitposters make a thread and spam it with their own accounts and toss merit to one of their accounts is a clear illegitimate way to rank up, check reputation section you'll see tons of negged accounts because they're busted.

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If you saw a lot of suspicious merit sharing then that can really be a merit selling. However that is hard to tag for now unless you have proven that those two accounts are connected.

Usually DT's on the other hand will tag this type of activity but they are also very keen to details to make sure that they are not tagging the wrong person and this is also very subjective.

That is the main reason why mods can not banned them

Maricel2017

full member

Activity: 448

Merit: 103

You should report if you see some users or members selling his/her merit points it is prohibited, merit points should give to those post have more quality and having some knowledge that can helps many members in thia community.
Moderators can double check the account that you been reported and i am sure they will tagged them or worstly they will banned.

beswaax

copper member

Activity: 70

Merit: 1

Quote from: Thule on October 08, 2018, 12:58:05 AM

The abuse on merit and false tagging is done by a group of legendary assholes.

I bought myself one account which wasn't hacked at all.
It was bought as it was needed for a friend so he can post images on his Ann thread.
He gave on that thread his personal details and his company details.
There were never a signle scam accuse on his thread which has over 90 pages now.

And i got tagged by these fuckers as scammer because i "bought an account to scam people"

How the fuck these asshole wanna know what i'm going to do with that account.They are generalising everyone and thats a big issue.
The trade of accounts is explecit allowed based on rules and who the fuck gave them the right to judge a bunch of assholes if i'm going to use that account in a accurate or non accurate way to tag me ?

I wasn't aware that Legendaries were trading merit, sad tho, I read one of your threads where you point out the behaviour of such people, this one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atriz-and-lauda-just-got-merit-2829282
In it, The Pharmacist answers like this " They can do what they like with their merit points", a guy is literally showing you that they are trading merit but you say oh they can do whatever they want with it, then why punish other merit traders with negative trust, that just seems so wrong, wasn't merit supposed to be given only to worthy posts? That is just plain dumb.

Thule

sr. member

Activity: 938

Merit: 276

The abuse on merit and false tagging is done by a group of legendary assholes.

I bought myself one account which wasn't hacked at all.
It was bought as it was needed for a friend so he can post images on his Ann thread.
He gave on that thread his personal details and his company details.
There were never a signle scam accuse on his thread which has over 90 pages now.

And i got tagged by these fuckers as scammer because i "bought an account to scam people"

How the fuck these asshole wanna know what i'm going to do with that account.They are generalising everyone and thats a big issue.
The trade of accounts is explecit allowed based on rules and who the fuck gave them the right to judge a bunch of assholes if i'm going to use that account in a accurate or non accurate way to tag me ?

audaciousbeing

hero member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 569

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Moderators cannot be everywhere at the same time. For even keeping the forum sane up till this time, they sure deserves some accolades. The issue of buying and selling has been something that have plagued the forum and I know some DT members have taken it upon themselves to clean up that section of the forum but its not a perfect effort. Its might not be eradicated, but its surely going to be frustrated.

Quote from: Sadlife on October 07, 2018, 11:25:59 PM

This happened because of the implementation of the new merit system and turned out to be one of the new businesses here in bitcointalk forum. In the past it was only selling hack accounts now more income opportunities can gain scammers profit. It seems to me that this merit system is kind of rubbish because you can get merits if you can pay someone who can do it.

You are so right and entitle to your opinion but blaming the forum for instituting such control measures is just wrong. The merit system was introduced with the purest form of intentions to sanitise the forum and preventing garbage posters from ranking up. If this is now being bastardized by some set of people, then we should join hands to frustrate such effort.

Sadlife

sr. member

Activity: 1400

Merit: 269

This happened because of the implementation of the new merit system and turned out to be one of the new businesses here in bitcointalk forum. In the past it was only selling hack accounts now more income opportunities can gain scammers profit. It seems to me that this merit system is kind of rubbish because you can get merits if you can pay someone who can do it.

Thule

sr. member

Activity: 938

Merit: 276

On this forum is a double standard.

Selling account makes that you get tagged so ask yourself why all the big lender boys who are taking bitcointalk accounts as collateral haven't been tagged till today.

Also about merit make it just like the big boys Lauda or thepharmacyst just create a merit circle and noone will be able to proof that you haven't given legit merit since if you watch on what posts they gave merit each other its just insane.They basicly gave merit for spam posts to each other.

So fuck them the same way

pragna

full member

Activity: 1582

Merit: 101

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

This is not fair actually. Merit system created to encourage better quality posts in forum that newbie or others can learn better things from it. But if it goes to hire rank in forum thats a very bad news for form. I think moderators should caught in hang for that. But it is difficult to caught evil person who doing this i think.

Mayoreetre

copper member

Activity: 28

Merit: 0

this is a good idea. but we can't stop selling account bro. they can sell their account.

SuicidalDemon69

jr. member

Activity: 106

Merit: 2

Earning merits is not Easy. It can only be earned by hard work so they can sell it.

samuland5

newbie

Activity: 27

Merit: 0

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

But why would anyone be selling their merits and accounts which took them a hard work to raise? 🤔To me that’s stupid. I can’t do that, I know how hard I’m working here to raise my account and also gain merits, cause I know that it’s going to help in future and I’m really going to benefit from it. Well, I can’t tell people what to do, whatever they chose to do is their business and not mine.

quality.crypto

member

Activity: 854

Merit: 10

Quote from: Yadstiker on October 04, 2018, 07:45:20 PM

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

I don't think it is actually allowed to sell or trade merits its because if the moderators caught this kind of a transaction they will put red trust both accounts or be banned in this forum and the reputation of the accounts will be ruined.

I think it is against the rules and regulation of the Bitcointalk and if moderators find definitely they will block all the account which have the relation by selling the Btctalk accounts and merits and we have to be very careful with those people and stay away from them.

rachellee

member

Activity: 504

Merit: 10

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible?

Of course, they are not allowed to do so. It's just that they are "risky" and "heady" people that even though they know very well that it is forbidden to do so, they still do. I think the accounts they used to posts such daring posts are their alt accounts, that's why they don't care when they get caught and sanctioned. Yeah, they should be banned. They are scammers and not to be trusted. Those buying those accounts and merits should be banned too, as well as the accounts for sale. They are altogether cancer of this forum, who ruined the very purpose of providing quality information about crypto and not just some nasty, scrappy posts.

Oasisman

hero member

Activity: 2716

Merit: 552

Why would merit a big deal to someone? Is it because for the sole purpose of bounty hunting? Well if thats the case, I dont see merit buying can help someone, instead they are putting themselves in a big trouble once caught, and that "sole purpose" will be gone forever. Sometimes, people are so desperate to something and tend to make stupid things which they think was the answer to the difficulties they're experiencing, when the reality is the other way around.

IMO, I'd rather look for forum violators and make a posts about it in meta section with complete presentation of evidence. In that way, I am helping the forum at the same time earning merit points, rather than spending bucks to prohibited stuff that puts your reputation at risks.

Yadstiker

full member

Activity: 373

Merit: 100

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

I don't think it is actually allowed to sell or trade merits its because if the moderators caught this kind of a transaction they will put red trust both accounts or be banned in this forum and the reputation of the accounts will be ruined.

hermankoles

jr. member

Activity: 275

Merit: 1

https://customcontract.network

selling merit is a violation because the rules about it are clear. This is a great forum where many members join here, the latest merit rules for me are very effective in reducing spaming and junk accounts, but if only strict rules without solutions get realistic merit I think more sales will occur
Bitcointalk accounts that are hacked and then sold are serious violations and if you find evidence I am sure this will be processed according to the rules of the forum.

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

Quote from: frostmourne0311 on October 04, 2018, 11:51:45 AM

Merit is now quite hard to earn, so someone who cant earn it choose buying account have at least 1 merit to conduct bounty campaign in this forum.

And that's where you guys comes into the picture. All bounty whores are finding it hard to get a least a merit to continue their journey here, but alas, merit buying/selling is the obvious way to go. But one way or another you will be caught by those members helping to clean up this forum and reported.

tenebriscaelum

member

Activity: 462

Merit: 11

Quote from: frostmourne0311 on October 04, 2018, 11:51:45 AM

Merit is now quite hard to earn, so someone who cant earn it choose buying account have at least 1 merit to conduct bounty campaign in this forum.

That is why such acts of selling or buying merits are being considered by many members, not to mention buying an account as earning merits is very hard specially with many topics that are being congested in the forum, however what I think new members needs to know is to how they can create topics with value as that is one of the things that admins and mod would want us to do. This is not just to make the site a better quality forum but also let the bounty hunters know that this is a real job that needs effort and time.

shield132

hero member

Activity: 2352

Merit: 905

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Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Wait, seems you realized that most of the account sellers are scammers (if not all of them). A person, which decides to buy account deserves to get scammed, why? Because when you come here, read forum rules at first (yeah it gives possibility to sell acount afaik but there are other details too), then when you see low rank member with zero or minus trust, avoid at least. Everyone has brain, this brain isn't for just being alive, you have to think in this world.

panjul07

legendary

Activity: 3500

Merit: 1354

Quote from: frostmourne0311 on October 04, 2018, 11:51:45 AM

Merit is now quite hard to earn, so someone who cant earn it choose buying account have at least 1 merit to conduct bounty campaign in this forum.

Actually it is not that hard to earn merit, only those who are giving up before trying says like that IMO. Buying account is not prohibitted by forum rules but we users are not recommended to do it especially if the main purpose is for earning money through bounties.

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Selling and buying transactions are not only happening in this forum, there are many sellers out there such as in Telegram, facebook or other social medias. It will be very hard to cover it, we are lucky enough to have some DT Members who are so active in tagging those sellers and buyers. I think it is enough if the main purpose if to avoid scam.

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3528

Merit: 7005

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 02, 2018, 04:04:02 PM

AFAIK, they're not ban-able but they can be painted with red trust. You can just go to Meta to see it for yourself. The only possible way to ban account is "plagiarising".

You can get banned for things other than plagiarism. Constant spam, consecuposting, and ban evasion will all earn you bans. You won't get banned for account sales, but you'll probably get red-tagged by a DT member. As far as merit sales, you'll definitely get tagged if caught, but I don't think I've seen anyone banned for that--and I can't even remember if there's a hard rule about it.

People selling accounts are ballsy here, but they have to sneakier about the merit sales. I guess deals could be done all through PMs and such, but I haven't seen any merit sales threads around here. I think all that happens on telegram.

The good thing is that bitcointalk has a lot of people with very sharp eyes looking at merit transactions, so a lot fewer people get away with that crap than you'd think.

frostmourne0311

newbie

Activity: 92

Merit: 0

Merit is now quite hard to earn, so someone who cant earn it choose buying account have at least 1 merit to conduct bounty campaign in this forum.

Ridwan Fauzi

full member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 147

Selling merit isn't allowed in this forum, if you found that case you can write a thread in this section Reputation and you must include proof so as everyone in this forum believes in you and might DT member will give red trust if the case really happened.

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

What are the moderators here for?

You better known this forum as a whole before making a conclusion. This forum works well and even becomes the biggest cryptocurrency forum because there was interference from the moderator.

Fatunad

sr. member

Activity: 2226

Merit: 347

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

And thats why this forum do have this kind of feature Grin

Report to Moderator

Moderators are just humans and they are not robots that would precisely able to see all those post regarding to these stuffs which means there would really instances that
there are post wont really be given some action because its being missed thats why as a user of this forum it would really be a great help on just reporting these illegal doings.

Sihab76

full member

Activity: 1302

Merit: 100

Selling merits and Bitcointalk account is punishable act and illegal action. Who buy and sell Bitcointalk account and merit both will get negative trust from moderators.

Reatim

sr. member

Activity: 2828

Merit: 357

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Funny though. I haven't earn a single merit but I don't like to trade or buy one. I think it will eventually come one day. And for those who are trying to cheat the system. I do hope that mods will just ban you here. I started as a lurker and I try to learn how all this crypto works before joining campaigns but those bounty hunters who got demoted really wanted to get back and continue their "dreams" here, so to speak.

escalante28

member

Activity: 742

Merit: 42

This section should be in meta. Hopefully they'll take action in of those merit's seller but it is hard to find who they're if you don't have a solid evidence. Also the admins of this forum are busy in an important matters, I think they will not priority in it. Anyway if you find one you can report it directly or make a new topic about it in the accusation board.

nniecan001

member

Activity: 322

Merit: 21

Quote from: Baofeng on October 02, 2018, 06:56:15 PM

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Merits aren't moderated so they're not banned by mods. But if you find them then you can open a thread here:Reputation. They could be red tag by DT members if its obvious that they're trading or selling merits.

That is not new on this league, if they want to sell their merit...it's better if they will leave any mark or evidence. I'm not supporting those punk, so I report some accounts here for that particular reason. The link above about reputation is very effective if you want to report them. Merit is not for sale, it's a price and a symbol of respect to one brilliant user.

Baofeng

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1655

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Merits aren't moderated so they're not banned by mods. But if you find them then you can open a thread here:Reputation. They could be red tag by DT members if its obvious that they're trading or selling merits.

Afiqa03

member

Activity: 532

Merit: 10

I think all cheating will not last long if you get a gift and so on. examples of giving merits for free, not correctly judging what is meant by the meaning and meaning of a post that will ultimately have a large loss, if one day someone knows and reports the account, the person concerned.

btc_angela

hero member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 551

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

AFAIK, they're not ban-able but they can be painted with red trust. You can just go to Meta to see it for yourself. The only possible way to ban account is "plagiarising".

jhenfelipe

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 647

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts,

If you see someone who is selling Merit or abusing the system, you have 2 options to report them:
1. Directly via Report to Moderator link
2. Make a thread on Reputation Board

In regards to account sales, they are not getting banned because it is allowed so they are not breaking any rules, but they will be getting a red trust from some DT member ↓

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

Q: I saw a guy selling Bitcointalk accounts. Why is that allowed?
A: Since we can't effectively prevent these sales (proxies, TOR, sales in other forums), we don't because otherwise we would be giving the users a false sense of security.

xIIImaL

legendary

Activity: 1372

Merit: 1005

Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

If you have forum related query you must write about that meta section. If you proof for someone scamming the concern project or forum by over crossing the rules you hace right to report with the moderator.
So use it to complain to scammers whoever trapped in your eyes. Hope we see your help to vanish scammers.

St4yInTh3D4rk

sr. member

Activity: 686

Merit: 264

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Quote from: beswaax on October 02, 2018, 08:59:21 AM

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

Actually selling the bitcointalk account are allowed but not encouraged so the sold account and the buyer and seller will get red tag if they get caught,so the moderators have nothing to do with that,if you want to stay away from scam then you need to stay away from account selling.

beswaax

copper member

Activity: 70

Merit: 1

I saw that many users are selling their merits and hacked btctalk accounts, shouldn't these people be banned? What are the moderators here for? Why are threads like those even possible? In order to stop the selling of accounts I think mods should ban the ones selling as soon as possible. Most of the account sellers are going to try to scam you anyways, so they can make easy money off naive people very easily if they are allowed to do it here literally on the btctalk forum.

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