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December 29, 2016, 08:23:20 PM
#49
I just updated the the coins that I won from that auction, hopefully those 20 coins can find 20 different owners and make 21 people very happy Tongue
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December 29, 2016, 11:37:48 AM
#48
Maybe I can sell one more coin before the new year?
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December 28, 2016, 11:25:06 PM
#47
how much would you offer for it straight out? /you could buy all of the auction spots

I would offer what I offered you yesterday.   

Would you release the btc instantly? Because I fear January 1st the price is going to drop 25%+

Or we write a clause in the escrow that ties the sale to a USD amount?

Instantly as in when the escrow gets the coin?

Nah like you send me the btc and I ship you the coin. But we could include a clause in the escrow tying the sale to a USD amount

I have no issue sending you the coin and you sending funds to escrow tho. But I am really trying to get 10/$20 more out of the coin

Current USD price of 0.15 btc is $145.80

And no I mean when escrow releases me btc it equals 150$

Fine, but when it winds up equaling $165 at this rate, I get the difference back.

How about escrow gets it ad a tip

No, ill do that on my own.

I am declining your offer 100% sure about this, I will not be accepting it (and probably kicking myself next week) I appreciate it, it tho. Unless your offer changes or BTC goes to some ridiolous price and your offer is still valid which I doubt it would be, would I revisit this.

(My decision is based on I didnt realize I paid as much as I did,

So you were willing to do the offer until I was set on using escrow....

no, I am fine with escrow. but if BTC goes up to the price of 1300 than the amount that I paid for the coin is loaded to the coin. and I thought I paid 120 for it but I really paid 130 and I am trying to profit on this.

how much would you offer for it straight out? /you could buy all of the auction spots

I would offer what I offered you yesterday.   

Would you release the btc instantly? Because I fear January 1st the price is going to drop 25%+

Or we write a clause in the escrow that ties the sale to a USD amount?

Instantly as in when the escrow gets the coin?

Nah like you send me the btc and I ship you the coin. But we could include a clause in the escrow tying the sale to a USD amount

I have no issue sending you the coin and you sending funds to escrow tho. But I am really trying to get 10/$20 more out of the coin

Current USD price of 0.15 btc is $145.80

And no I mean when escrow releases me btc it equals 150$

Fine, but when it winds up equaling $165 at this rate, I get the difference back.

How about escrow gets it ad a tip

No, ill do that on my own.


Can I have your address for shipping?
So you agree to tip escrow and pay for shipping and have escrow release


Well I dont know what to tell you I am open to escrow, and since you are trusted enough I was willing to ship you the coins directly instead of having escrow reship them

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December 28, 2016, 11:00:56 PM
#46
User and I had worked out a deal, until he realized I wouldn't budge on using escrow.   Seems a bit suspicious.

Thats not true, I even offered to go with the standard escrow as in

buyer sends btc to escrow
i send coins to buyer
buyer confirms and escrow releases


I backed out of the deal because the offer was too low,

But that's not what actually happened...
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December 28, 2016, 09:11:00 PM
#45
User and I had worked out a deal, until he realized I wouldn't budge on using escrow.   Seems a bit suspicious.

Thats not true, I even offered to go with the standard escrow as in

buyer sends btc to escrow
i send coins to buyer
buyer confirms and escrow releases


I backed out of the deal because the offer was too low,
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December 28, 2016, 09:02:35 PM
#44
User and I had worked out a deal, until he realized I wouldn't budge on using escrow.   Seems a bit suspicious.
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December 28, 2016, 06:47:33 PM
#43
Good luck with your sales!

many new coins here Smiley

thanks!
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December 28, 2016, 04:40:34 PM
#42
I put the lealana up for a raffle, tickets are .0125 each and once there are 16 spots filled an escrow will be chosen and the funds will be sent to him/her.

Guess this could count for my daily bump
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December 28, 2016, 10:03:38 AM
#41
This thread is getting a little out of hand despite its entertainment value. Why can't you just use a middleman to receive the goods?
On a side note, how much for the Sol Noctis coin with shipping to the UK?
Thanks

Let me refer you to my OP where MJ states that he would reship the items to the buyer.


and again, I will refer you to my OP where it says I am taking offers


also, I sold 1 coin so far, just shipped it, and we did not use escrow!


edit: added 10 more coins
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December 28, 2016, 06:20:32 AM
#40
This thread is getting a little out of hand despite its entertainment value. Why can't you just use a middleman to receive the goods?
On a side note, how much for the Sol Noctis coin with shipping to the UK?
Thanks
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December 28, 2016, 05:51:45 AM
#39
Given that sales are often made here in 10's of bitcoins, rather than 1/10ths of bitcoins, this all appears to be getting out of hand.

The escrow is the trusted third party, and independant arbiter in case of dispute. Escrow is there to provide protection to both seller and buyer. Generally they would only handle the digital coins rather than a physical item.

BUT If buyer cannot trust seller to ship the item, rather than an empty box. And / or seller cannot trust the buyer to confirm delivery of the item, rather than an empty box ... then the escrow can be used to relay the physical item also. This is not generally how it is done, but it can be, if needs be.

At no point should escrow ever be released on being provided a tracking number only. The recieving party (or their proxy the escrow, in the second escrow scenario) should always be able to validate the goods recieved, prior to escrow funds being released.

If a deal cannot be reached in any of those models, then there isnt a deal to be had.


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December 28, 2016, 02:18:27 AM
#38
Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you
yes but see I do not see a point in using escrow because than I am relying on the honesty of the buyer.
In that case, you might think about videotaping yourself while packing the goods, including a clear shot of the shipping label,
so in case of any dispute (given the buyers missing "honesty"), you can provide sufficient proof to the escrow that you held up your end of the deal, so that he can still release the btc to you.

I am going to be using this type of escrow for my trades
you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc
I guess this is possible ^ assuming the escrowing person wants to reship the coins.
Not to mention who bears the cost of the double shipping costs? You? The buyer? Both?
I've used this with Minerjones recently for an auction I won.
Since the seller was based in the US anyway and I prefer to get stuff shipped internationally in batches, rather than one by one, it was the obvious thing to do.
I think it depends on the situation, but it's one way to go for sure.

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December 28, 2016, 02:13:54 AM
#37
Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

This is the basic norm of business here.  Anything other then that is suspicious, and not of the "normal".

Hope this helps


yes but see I do not see a point in using escrow because than I am relying on the honesty of the buyer.

I am going to be using this type of escrow for my trades

you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc


I guess this is possible ^ assuming the escrowing person wants to reship the coins.

Not to mention who bears the cost of the double shipping costs? You? The buyer? Both?
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December 28, 2016, 12:23:26 AM
#36
Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

This is the basic norm of business here.  Anything other then that is suspicious, and not of the "normal".

Hope this helps


yes but see I do not see a point in using escrow because than I am relying on the honesty of the buyer.

I am going to be using this type of escrow for my trades

you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc
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December 27, 2016, 11:52:57 PM
#35
Killyou, stop.....take a breath.  This is how most every transaction goes:

You make a deal with you, the buyer, and escrow in a pm
Buyer agrees
Escrow gives a btc address to buyer
Buyer sends btc to escrow
escrow confirms payment
You send product to buyer
Buyer gets product and alerts escrow
escrow sends btc to you

This is the basic norm of business here.  Anything other then that is suspicious, and not of the "normal".

Hope this helps
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December 27, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
#34

Buyer sends btc to escrow.
Seller sends product to escrow.

If all checks out fine,
escrow releases btc to seller
escrow ships product to buyer. 

Everybody is happy  Cheesy
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December 27, 2016, 11:00:32 PM
#33
Happy to accept coins for reshipping/escrow purposes.....

going to grab more popcorn Tongue




AWESOME. I am so happy you posted that I am going to quote you and put that in the OP incase people do not go to the second page, this is the best news I have heard all day.

Because

I was under the impression that how normally escrow works like this

Me
You
Escrow

You send BTC to escrow
I send you the package
I update you and escrow with tracking number,
escrow releases btc

however, I have learned that escrow can possibly be

you send btc to escrow
I send you package
you receive package
you update me and escrow that contents are valid
escrow releases btc

however, I do not see how escrow protects me in the second situation because who ever I sent the package too can just say I sent a rock or something

two weeks ago i learned that it could also be

you send btc to escrow
I send coins to escrow
escrow reships coins
escrow releases btc

however, then this puts the BTC and items in the escrow hands so the escrow would have to be trustworthy and also in this situation it allows for more error, and damage to the package because I recently purchased the binary eagle and the case was damaged from the escrow to me, so I am SOL in that situation because the seller isnt going to fix an issue that was caused by the escrow and the escrow should be punished for the USPS damaging the item?
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December 27, 2016, 04:35:59 PM
#32
my bid of 0.5BTC for all of your BTC gear and for you to leave the forum for ever still stands....

After your nasty comment I wouldn't sell these to you if you offer 100 btc

yes you would don't lie.
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December 27, 2016, 04:32:56 PM
#31
my bid of 0.5BTC for all of your BTC gear and for you to leave the forum for ever still stands....

After your nasty comment I wouldn't sell these to you if you offer 100 btc
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December 27, 2016, 04:30:35 PM
#30
my bid of 0.5BTC for all of your BTC gear and for you to leave the forum for ever still stands....
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