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Topic: Selling XBOX Ones + Kinect $250! [US, UK, Canada] (Read 1884 times)

full member
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Merit: 100
This is theft plain and simple.  

Basically you are calling microsoft, saying your xbox is bad (most likely with a cd problem) and you are using a serial number that is either randomly generated or there is a generator out there.  You then and give a shipping address you will need to provide a credit card, of which you will use a prepaid one or something similar.

Microsoft replaces the xbox and is out of the money.

Here is the ramifications on this:

1) nothing happens and you make money
2) They figure out where you are, and you are arrested, selling stolen goods or even fraud
3) They know the address that it is being shipped so guess who gets a bill, when the credit card doesn't work.




+1 I just typed virtually the same response as you and was debating whether to risk calling someone out, being a newb.

Basically you're setting up a advanced exchange repair..

"Advanced exchange: Microsoft will ship a replacement product to you first, and then you'll send back your non-working item. There are a few important things to note about advanced exchange:

You must provide credit card details for an advanced exchange. A hold will be placed on your credit card for the price of an Xbox One console or Kinect sensor.
You're responsible for sending the non-working product in within 14 days after receiving the replacement product to avoid having your credit card charged."


The trick is Microsoft don't put a hold for the full cost of a console on your card, they just do a check. So people use a pre paid visa or vcc with £1 on to do this and the serial numbers to set up a repair can easily be found or given to you if you ask a seller on eBay etc.

When Microsoft clicks on they're not receiving the broken xbox that doesn't exist back they will try charging the card which obviously won't work where it only ever had a pound on it and the only trace is the delivery address which conveniently is the buyers and not the seller.

With the use of Bitcoin as the payment method and not accepting PayPal etc (there is nothing identifying the seller), but there's nothing stopping Microsoft chasing it up or bricking your console down the line or worst case scenario the seller using stolen credit cards to pass the security checks (Microsoft are meant to be clamping down on pre paid cards) which would result in more than a bricked console for whoever buys one.

Well because both of you said this, I have to close this.
But I have to say this,  there are many people doing this and as I know so far no one got caught. No one ever gets billed from Microsoft.  Microsoft is a big company, if they would want to stop their loss, they would already make some changes in their policy. But thank you the heads up.
newbie
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This is theft plain and simple.  

Basically you are calling microsoft, saying your xbox is bad (most likely with a cd problem) and you are using a serial number that is either randomly generated or there is a generator out there.  You then and give a shipping address you will need to provide a credit card, of which you will use a prepaid one or something similar.

Microsoft replaces the xbox and is out of the money.

Here is the ramifications on this:

1) nothing happens and you make money
2) They figure out where you are, and you are arrested, selling stolen goods or even fraud
3) They know the address that it is being shipped so guess who gets a bill, when the credit card doesn't work.




+1 I just typed virtually the same response as you and was debating whether to risk calling someone out, being a newb.

Basically you're setting up a advanced exchange repair..

"Advanced exchange: Microsoft will ship a replacement product to you first, and then you'll send back your non-working item. There are a few important things to note about advanced exchange:

You must provide credit card details for an advanced exchange. A hold will be placed on your credit card for the price of an Xbox One console or Kinect sensor.
You're responsible for sending the non-working product in within 14 days after receiving the replacement product to avoid having your credit card charged."


The trick is Microsoft don't put a hold for the full cost of a console on your card, they just do a check. So people use a pre paid visa or vcc with £1 on to do this and the serial numbers to set up a repair can easily be found or given to you if you ask a seller on eBay etc.

When Microsoft clicks on they're not receiving the broken xbox that doesn't exist back they will try charging the card which obviously won't work where it only ever had a pound on it and the only trace is the delivery address which conveniently is the buyers and not the seller.

With the use of Bitcoin as the payment method and not accepting PayPal etc (there is nothing identifying the seller), but there's nothing stopping Microsoft chasing it up or bricking your console down the line or worst case scenario the seller using stolen credit cards to pass the security checks (Microsoft are meant to be clamping down on pre paid cards) which would result in more than a bricked console for whoever buys one.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
This is theft plain and simple. 

Basically you are calling microsoft, saying your xbox is bad (most likely with a cd problem) and you are using a serial number that is either randomly generated or there is a generator out there.  You then and give a shipping address you will need to provide a credit card, of which you will use a prepaid one or something similar.

Microsoft replaces the xbox and is out of the money.

Here is the ramifications on this:

1) nothing happens and you make money
2) They figure out where you are, and you are arrested, selling stolen goods or even fraud
3) They know the address that it is being shipped so guess who gets a bill, when the credit card doesn't work.


full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
So... you phone up Xbox and socially engineer a replacement?

Surely when they realise they have been socially engineered and adversely effected they will block the consoles?

 It'll never happen because they won't find out.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
So... you phone up Xbox and socially engineer a replacement?

Surely when they realise they have been socially engineered and adversely effected they will block the consoles?
legendary
Activity: 3178
Merit: 1348
Pls put me down as one of the first 5.
Shipping to UK.
PM me please.
Thanks
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
Seems fair, first 5 get escrow.

Put me down for one, i will be using a forwarding company, would you like to receive the item and forward it for me to Australia mate?
(assuming i am one of the first 5 i will buy one)

Sure. And nope I won't be forwarding it for you, you can use a forwarding company.

I will also post here if I started processing orders.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Seems fair, first 5 get escrow.

Put me down for one, i will be using a forwarding company, would you like to receive the item and forward it for me to Australia mate?
(assuming i am one of the first 5 i will buy one)
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
Okay guys I'm getting more and more offers. This is what I'm going to do; For the first 5 buyers, I expect you to release escrow once the item reaches your HOME ( It doesn't matter whether you're shipping to your own home or reship. ) After the first 5 buyers, I would expect escrow to be released once you received the tracking number. Also, orders will be made after orders. For example, the first order has to be finalized (Item reached customer's home) before the second order will be processed. I won't be doing multiple orders together because this takes time. I will also put up a queue list. This is to build up trust because people don't trust me yet. I wouldn't want to do escrow to your home after the first 5 because I have to wait a long time to receive the money, furthermore, it is possible for people to say they didn't receive anything.

I shall get me some BTC just you wait.. hahah I hope you still have some when I get it.

Sure thing  Cheesy

by Socially Engineered do you mean stolen?

NO. This has something to do with XBox's replacement policy, I will never sell stolen items or put my customers in danger.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
by Socially Engineered do you mean stolen?
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 255
I shall get me some BTC just you wait.. hahah I hope you still have some when I get it.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
Guys, I would be rather busy a few days so I wouldn't be able to make orders, I'll tell you when I can.
Interested parties can ask questions and I'll answer when I have the time.

I'm interested in purchasing one, however I'm still a bit confused about how this works. You don't actually have the units in hand?
No, these are replacement consoles shipped to you. So I would not have an opportunity to ship a brick and scam you. I'll ensure that these items will be shipped to your doorstep / reship conpany.

PAYPAL?
No, only BTC as I said.

Are these shipped from UK or somewhere Europe? Cause there would be VAT charges and stuff otherwise.

Or maybe you can go ESCROW?

You just pay the item prices, I'll ensure you will get that item for that price.
Yes I can go through escrow, once it gets delivered, you MUST release escrow.

So I won't get any tax charges, VAT charges?

If yes, PM me, I'm goddamn interesed.

Talked to you.
legendary
Activity: 2590
Merit: 2156
Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
I'm interested in purchasing one, however I'm still a bit confused about how this works. You don't actually have the units in hand?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Are these shipped from UK or somewhere Europe? Cause there would be VAT charges and stuff otherwise.

Or maybe you can go ESCROW?

You just pay the item prices, I'll ensure you will get that item for that price.
Yes I can go through escrow, once it gets delivered, you MUST release escrow.

So I won't get any tax charges, VAT charges?

If yes, PM me, I'm goddamn interesed.
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
I will buy it, PM me if its still available.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
Are these shipped from UK or somewhere Europe? Cause there would be VAT charges and stuff otherwise.

Or maybe you can go ESCROW?

You just pay the item prices, I'll ensure you will get that item for that price.
Yes I can go through escrow, once it gets delivered, you MUST release escrow.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Are these shipped from UK or somewhere Europe? Cause there would be VAT charges and stuff otherwise.

Or maybe you can go ESCROW?
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100
If you'll sell it to someone and they'll get it - I'll be intersed.

Sure I just need someone to be interested now Cheesy
First buyer already has a 100% ensured delivery.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
If you'll sell it to someone and they'll get it - I'll be intersed.
full member
Activity: 150
Merit: 100

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Escrow

Escrow is accepted, you are expected to release escrow once you received the tracking number.



How do we know your shipping an xbox one and not for example a brick?
Escrow should be upon receipt.

Okay. Because of this, I'll make an exception for the first buyer to only release escrow once item has been delivered. First buyer has to have a trusted transaction history.
I might consider changing the escrow policy. The reason why am I asking people to release escrow after tracking number has been delivered is because people can just say they didn't receive the item once it has been delivered.


Can you explain what this means? "Private SE method"?

It means that the items has been social engineered.
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