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legendary
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February 06, 2015, 02:56:51 PM
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So you're a supporter of the repeal?

Not necessarily. I was opposed to the passage of the bill, and I'm opposed to the concept that the government can force you to buy something you don't want to buy. There is though a question in my mind as to whether health care is truly a special case which necessitates everyone's mandatory involvement. (I haven't definitely answered that question yet for myself.) But repeal now will create chaos, and it's doubtful democrats would let the issue die there and would attempt again, which will further extend the chaos. I was more speaking from a sense of interest as to whether republicans will make a meaningful attempt at repeal when they have the votes to actually do it. When they didn't have the votes, it was all for theater ahead of the midterm elections. Now there will be actual consequences for attempting to repeal, and I'm not sure they will want to risk control of both houses over it. But I'm certainly watching because the strategy of why they act interests me, if not the actual repealing of the law itself.
Create chaos?  It's Obamacare that DID THAT.

The solution (repealing Obamacare) to the problem(Obamacare) is not the problem.

I guarantee that repealing causes more disruption than not at this point. It will disrupt business and insurance companies the most as no one knows what to expect any more, and then democrats will try to pass something again, further extending the uncertainty. If you think you repeal this and it just ends and everything is fixed, I think you will be proven mistaken.
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February 06, 2015, 09:41:31 AM
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So you're a supporter of the repeal?

Not necessarily. I was opposed to the passage of the bill, and I'm opposed to the concept that the government can force you to buy something you don't want to buy. There is though a question in my mind as to whether health care is truly a special case which necessitates everyone's mandatory involvement. (I haven't definitely answered that question yet for myself.) But repeal now will create chaos, and it's doubtful democrats would let the issue die there and would attempt again, which will further extend the chaos. I was more speaking from a sense of interest as to whether republicans will make a meaningful attempt at repeal when they have the votes to actually do it. When they didn't have the votes, it was all for theater ahead of the midterm elections. Now there will be actual consequences for attempting to repeal, and I'm not sure they will want to risk control of both houses over it. But I'm certainly watching because the strategy of why they act interests me, if not the actual repealing of the law itself.
Create chaos?  It's Obamacare that DID THAT.

The solution (repealing Obamacare) to the problem(Obamacare) is not the problem.
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February 05, 2015, 04:15:05 PM
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So you're a supporter of the repeal?

Not necessarily. I was opposed to the passage of the bill, and I'm opposed to the concept that the government can force you to buy something you don't want to buy. There is though a question in my mind as to whether health care is truly a special case which necessitates everyone's mandatory involvement. (I haven't definitely answered that question yet for myself.) But repeal now will create chaos, and it's doubtful democrats would let the issue die there and would attempt again, which will further extend the chaos. I was more speaking from a sense of interest as to whether republicans will make a meaningful attempt at repeal when they have the votes to actually do it. When they didn't have the votes, it was all for theater ahead of the midterm elections. Now there will be actual consequences for attempting to repeal, and I'm not sure they will want to risk control of both houses over it. But I'm certainly watching because the strategy of why they act interests me, if not the actual repealing of the law itself.
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February 05, 2015, 01:34:18 PM
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So you're a supporter of the repeal?
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February 04, 2015, 03:54:10 PM
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I've been waiting for republicans to get going on this after all the promises. I'll be interested to see how committed they are to the repeal, because I've been operating on the assumption that they talk about it for theater more than anything else. I'm a skeptic, but I view this as a campaign move more than a serious attempt to repeal.
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 01:49:11 PM
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Well, it looks like the game is on, let's see how many of the republicans are willing to do the right thing. Looks like it's time to go all in and call the democrats bluff and put them back on their heels.

In 2013 IIRC the Demos changed the filibuster rules, such that for judges confirmation, a simple majority was required, and for other matters, 3/5 was required instead of 2/3.

But budget reconciliation matters had always been a simple majority.  Now since Obamacare was passed as budget reconciliation (wrongly, of course) it should be reversed on that same basis.  In turn this means the Republicans actually can pass the bill in the Senate, and then in the House. 

This would leave Obama to veto it.

Personally I would like to see this occur.  I'd also like to see those votes with names attached on the table for everyone to see.
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February 04, 2015, 08:08:27 AM
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Well, it looks like the game is on, let's see how many of the republicans are willing to do the right thing. Looks like it's time to go all in and call the democrats bluff and put them back on their heels.
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February 03, 2015, 11:26:10 PM
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Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas) introduced an "Obamacare Repeal Act" that would repeal the Affordable Care Act "as if such Act had not been enacted."

The text of Cruz's bill to repeal the 2,700-page law barely runs onto the third page.

"This repeal bill is pro-growth, pro-jobs, and pro-liberty." Cruz says in a statement on the bill. "It provides time for Congress to start over, to pass true market-based reforms that will allow the purchase of insurance across state lines, expand health savings accounts, and make health insurance, personal, portable, and affordable."

The bill is co-sponsored by 44 Senate Republicans, including Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell.

If Republicans could get around a Democratic filibuster, Cruz would be the only prospective presidential candidate who could claim to have authored the first Obamacare repeal that passed through Congress.

More...http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/397732/ted-cruz-unveils-obamacare-repeal-act-joel-gehrke

Sen. Cruz is likely my distant 2nd favorite US Senator behind Sen. Paul as he's decently conservative on fiscal issues but I have disagreements w/ him on foreign policy.
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