Send Bitcoins Without Fees [No Miner Fees]

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Quote from: ericmalik on December 21, 2017, 07:46:49 AM

I think coinbase is asking for fee's for every transaction right now because of the miners fee increase Lips sealed

Xapo and coinbase are not actually a bitcoin wallet, they are centralized payment processor .
I at all cost try to avoid them They don't share private keys with you and can lock down your account anytime they want.

Have you used any bitcoin online wallets. If you used it before your answer will not this you have answered here. Coinbase and xapo are most of the preferred wallets around forum. miliions of users using coinbase wallet for long time. Keep investing on the bitcoin and buying and holding also can be done by the coinbase trading site. You are this wallet is good means what would be perfect wallet and what wallet you are using?
For private key they will give the information in their FAQs itself.

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I think coinbase is asking for fee's for every transaction right now because of the miners fee increase Lips sealed

Xapo and coinbase are not actually a bitcoin wallet, they are centralized payment processor .
I at all cost try to avoid them They don't share private keys with you and can lock down your account anytime they want.

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Quote from: BrewMaster on March 28, 2017, 11:28:24 AM

just a couple of things:
- don't add size to your whole topic, it is annoying because it gets unnecessarily big.

- there are two ways to reduce fees:
1. don't reuse addresses to receive a lot of small transactions. try to keep the number of outputs (received transactions) to a minimum. spending 1 output costs about 30K-40K satoshi while spending multiple outputs consts more depending on how many they are.
2. you may already be using this but upgrading to newer wallets will generate new version of private keys (compressed) and that will make your transactions a little smaller.

- use wallets that suggest the appropriate fees such as Electrum or Core

- if you are making a lot of payments, try combining them all into one instead of paying one by one.

- XAPO and Coinbase are third party accounts not bitcoin wallets and they come with their own risks. you can get hacked or they can easily block your account.

"if you are making a lot of payments, try combining them all into one instead of paying one by one."

Say I have 1000 ABC tokens (just a made up ERC20 token name) and I want to send 1 ABC each to 1000 separate Myethereum wallets, how can I do this at the least cost method, or no cost?

Can I for example do a bulk distribution sending from Wallet A (my 1000) to many Wallets (1000 of them) and class it as 1 transaction?

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 22, 2017, 10:07:22 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 21, 2017, 03:01:59 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 20, 2017, 02:10:49 PM

for now i can't find any bitcoin wallet service that charges no transaction/network fees for sending bitcoin but please whichever one any of us comes across should be posted here immediately to update this thread...

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Any progress on this matter Huh

As far as I know, no reputed wallet service providers are not supporting no-fee out-transactions for their customers. Probably switching over to off-chian transactions could be a solutions for you if you are deliberately needing zero fee transactions and you are processing some big number of transactions daily.

Xapo to Xapo and coinbase to coinbase transactions are coming with zero fees. You can ask what wallet a person is using and when you are paying them, you can use same wallet type as per him and by asking them to switch over to one single wallet type can be a long term solutions for you.

C-cex to c-cex (they are exchanges and NOT an wallet service providers) can be done in off-chain mode or by using code also.

So how do I get 5o use the c-cex to c-cex off chain mode? Huh

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Quote from: swogerino on July 24, 2017, 02:36:16 PM

It is not worthy to use them. You would win only a dust amount saving them from the fees being paid by XAPO as an online web wallet provider but on the other side you risk your account to get blocked for different reasons and your bitcoins to remain locked there forever. It has happened to many people here in the forum so it is better to pay the fees and have a wallet which you are in control of everything.

yah youre right, better prioritize your bitcoins security in every situation. although i think only newbies will take advantage on this no miner fees thing that xapo offers when you

send a xapo to xapo transaction besides most newbies use online wallets. the situation is different now, with the high miner fees no wallet provider will shoulder any transactions

fees of their users. both xapo and coinbase offers that back then but they stopped. right now only internal transactions are with no miner fee. and i think with xapos increasing

bad reputation, the time will come when it'll stoop to coinbase level

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It is not worthy to use them. You would win only a dust amount saving them from the fees being paid by XAPO as an online web wallet provider but on the other side you risk your account to get blocked for different reasons and your bitcoins to remain locked there forever. It has happened to many people here in the forum so it is better to pay the fees and have a wallet which you are in control of everything.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 23, 2017, 07:48:31 AM

Quote from: el kaka22 on July 22, 2017, 10:07:22 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 21, 2017, 03:01:59 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 20, 2017, 02:10:49 PM

for now i can't find any bitcoin wallet service that charges no transaction/network fees for sending bitcoin but please whichever one any of us comes across should be posted here immediately to update this thread...

Cool

Any progress on this matter Huh

As far as I know, no reputed wallet service providers are not supporting no-fee out-transactions for their customers. Probably switching over to off-chian transactions could be a solutions for you if you are deliberately needing zero fee transactions and you are processing some big number of transactions daily.

Xapo to Xapo and coinbase to coinbase transactions are coming with zero fees. You can ask what wallet a person is using and when you are paying them, you can use same wallet type as per him and by asking them to switch over to one single wallet type can be a long term solutions for you.

C-cex to c-cex (they are exchanges and NOT an wallet service providers) can be done in off-chain mode or by using code also.

These are only the possible ways to use if you do really hate fees which making transactions directly on these exchange wallets but not possible on those web wallets exist online. I cant really think off on a wallet which do charge free on making transfers. Coinbase and xapo do offer these things in the past which they do patch up the fees for their users but as of now they are charging already some fees which is sad.
Sending bitcoins does need fees for it to be confirmed and no one would already patch it up for free considering fees are already high.

I suppose we can noore find such wallet with free send fee because bit coins are now quite expensive and hence no freebies and his from exchanges again

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Quote from: el kaka22 on July 22, 2017, 10:07:22 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 21, 2017, 03:01:59 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 20, 2017, 02:10:49 PM

for now i can't find any bitcoin wallet service that charges no transaction/network fees for sending bitcoin but please whichever one any of us comes across should be posted here immediately to update this thread...

Cool

Any progress on this matter Huh

As far as I know, no reputed wallet service providers are not supporting no-fee out-transactions for their customers. Probably switching over to off-chian transactions could be a solutions for you if you are deliberately needing zero fee transactions and you are processing some big number of transactions daily.

Xapo to Xapo and coinbase to coinbase transactions are coming with zero fees. You can ask what wallet a person is using and when you are paying them, you can use same wallet type as per him and by asking them to switch over to one single wallet type can be a long term solutions for you.

C-cex to c-cex (they are exchanges and NOT an wallet service providers) can be done in off-chain mode or by using code also.

These are only the possible ways to use if you do really hate fees which making transactions directly on these exchange wallets but not possible on those web wallets exist online. I cant really think off on a wallet which do charge free on making transfers. Coinbase and xapo do offer these things in the past which they do patch up the fees for their users but as of now they are charging already some fees which is sad.
Sending bitcoins does need fees for it to be confirmed and no one would already patch it up for free considering fees are already high.

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Quote from: tendermartin on July 21, 2017, 03:01:59 AM

Quote from: tendermartin on July 20, 2017, 02:10:49 PM

for now i can't find any bitcoin wallet service that charges no transaction/network fees for sending bitcoin but please whichever one any of us comes across should be posted here immediately to update this thread...

Cool

Any progress on this matter Huh

As far as I know, no reputed wallet service providers are not supporting no-fee out-transactions for their customers. Probably switching over to off-chian transactions could be a solutions for you if you are deliberately needing zero fee transactions and you are processing some big number of transactions daily.

Xapo to Xapo and coinbase to coinbase transactions are coming with zero fees. You can ask what wallet a person is using and when you are paying them, you can use same wallet type as per him and by asking them to switch over to one single wallet type can be a long term solutions for you.

C-cex to c-cex (they are exchanges and NOT an wallet service providers) can be done in off-chain mode or by using code also.

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Quote from: tendermartin on July 20, 2017, 02:10:49 PM

for now i can't find any bitcoin wallet service that charges no transaction/network fees for sending bitcoin but please whichever one any of us comes across should be posted here immediately to update this thread...

Cool

Any progress on this matter Huh

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for now i can't find any bitcoin wallet service that charges no transaction/network fees for sending bitcoin but please whichever one any of us comes across should be posted here immediately to update this thread...

Cool

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Bitcoin is doing too much now a days. Asking about $2.00 (Less/More) for every wallet for transfers. This is really very bad for users who do small transaction. I need to send someone $3 and have to pay $2 fee? Thats really embarrassing !!

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Quote from: mrcash02 on April 06, 2017, 04:40:39 PM

So, is Xapo having losses from transaction fees?

Aren't they charging their users in any other way?

For sending they don't charge any fees, i tested after reading here, but for small transactions there are fees, see their site to see

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So, is Xapo having losses from transaction fees?

Aren't they charging their users in any other way?

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Yeah , off-coarse Xapo is one of the adopted wallet to avoid transaction fee. It is very secure, multi signature wallet. It is most preferred wallet and i recommend everyone to make it your primary bitcoin wallet

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It's not new that xapo doesn't charges miners fees for sending a transaction, but good to know for people who did not know about that. i may switch some BTC to xapo in future

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Quote from: megynacuna on April 01, 2017, 10:49:04 PM

Quote from: cryptocoinplay on March 28, 2017, 11:20:12 AM

Yesterday, I was talking with my friend that he spends a lot for Bitcoin Transfers for fees.
Using BlockChain that cuts a lot of fees which is necessary but unnecessary for me like peoples. who does little transactions and cuts a lot fees.

What is Bitcoin Network Fee?
Bitcoin Network fee is charged by miners who mine the BTC's and they take this fee for confirming the transaction. I didn't found instant confirmation yet anywhere but Coinbase does it faster than Blockchain I guess.
Anyways, you have to give fees if you use BTC.

How to get rid of this fees?
There's no way! Actually you have to pay the fees in order to get your transaction confirmed.
So this is a necessary thing, but some Service Providers pays the fees from their pocket or take it from zero fee confirmation. There was Coinbase before years doing this to gather new customers.

Today... I want to introduce XAPO Service which is same as Blockchain, Coinbase and let you send BTC's without fees.
I started loving it since I use it. The way of their website security is high, they use bitpay api & block.

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Note: XAPO is old and I'm newbie, There's nothing to manipulate if you know this already.
I'm not promoting any affiliate or referral, just came to share what I found.

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Since it is free, does it confirm early?

it's not entirely free, in the sense that they pay the fee for you, and yes it's usually confirm fast, it's not different than when you withdrawn your money form any exchange in terms of speed

but in that case you pay for fee, now that i think about ti there are exchange that are very fast in sending you the coina nd only spend 20k satoshi...

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Quote from: iv4n on April 02, 2017, 01:21:36 AM

I use xapo, or better to say that xapo was my first wallet. In beginning xapo was ideal for me for all low amount transactions, from all the faucets and micro earnings. I still use that wallet for some micro transactions, their android app is also very good, I have it on my phone. All in all xapo is good wallet and they are here for a long time.

Since usually I never support third party things , I meant party wallet of of bitcoin beside of the official blockchain . But I also used the xapo for the store of the bitcoin for small earning. In the beginning when I started bitcoin with freebitco.in then I used xapo Instead of blockchain Because I found that xapo is best because if I will use blockchain then surely I will lost one week earning of the freebitco faucet .
But Currently I like the blockchain instead more bulk Transaction because after the coinbase news I thinking that may be any problem I can face in the future , so avoid big transition in xapo or coinbase .

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I use xapo, or better to say that xapo was my first wallet. In beginning xapo was ideal for me for all low amount transactions, from all the faucets and micro earnings. I still use that wallet for some micro transactions, their android app is also very good, I have it on my phone. All in all xapo is good wallet and they are here for a long time.

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Coinbase aint free but the good thing is they charge little like 3000 satoshis or up. Xapo? I think they charge whenever you do transactions that are really low.
I guess that is their way to avoid people from doing a lot of withdrawal at the same time which makes the heavy traffic of transaction. Actually they did a good thing but what about those who are earning little who are just doing faucets. We must understand them too. When they withdraw like 100k sats only they will be charged.

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