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legendary
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September 12, 2015, 09:14:06 PM
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Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...

You really think Mars One is a scam?

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/team

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/advisers

Over ambitious maybe, but I wouldn't say scam and personally I hope they succeed.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/feb/23/mars-one-plan-colonise-red-planet-unrealistic-leading-supporter

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"A recent analysis by a team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) identified crucial flaws with Mars One’s published plans and predicted that even if the astronauts got to the surface unscathed, the first person would suffocate within 68 days because of a lack of equipment to balance oxygen levels effectively."

We can't even colonize the MOON.  What makes you think we can colonize Mars, a planet considerably further away from Earth, for the sole purpose of a REALITY SHOW?  Shouldn't we, like, make sure living there in the first place is possible?

Of course we should. It is silly to assume that the Mars One team had managed to overcome every obstacle. Reviews like the one you link are GOOD as that is how science works, it means the project can improve. Is Mars One perfect? No. Does that mean they should give up? No. According to your logic shall we just stay on Earth forever and not try and colonize anywhere? Doing is achieved by trying. Of course its a huge undertaking, that is common sense. Does that mean it is a scam? I highly doubt it. Which was my original point.

Your reference does not prove it is a scam, just like the previous reference from a disgruntled contestant does not prove it is a scam either.

Dude, I'm sorry for giving you the wrong idea. I agree with your opinions - we need to get the hell of this rock ASAP. Earth is humanity's cradle - we need to grow the fuck up, get over the greed and beaurocratic bullshit we fight and kill over. Humanity needs a universal body that looks past religion, politics, etc. and take our big ol' baby step towards colonization of space (and eventually planets).

One big meteor, and humanity is history. One nuclear war, and everything's over. Space colonies - I prefer the O'Neil cylinder Cheesy - can serve as our 'backup plan'.

I could go on but I'm at work, sorry.

I just think the Mars one project is looking too far ahead, considering our current technological/governmental/monetarymetc. limitations.

Maybe team up with Planetary Resources (look em up if you don't know) and start building revenue / resources from there Wink

Talk to you later!

Nice to hear Smiley

Yes I do know Planetary Resources, who knows maybe they will get there first in the end Smiley
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That's awesome. But Mars is very far from where we are.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...

You really think Mars One is a scam?

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/team

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/advisers

Over ambitious maybe, but I wouldn't say scam and personally I hope they succeed.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/feb/23/mars-one-plan-colonise-red-planet-unrealistic-leading-supporter

Quote
"A recent analysis by a team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) identified crucial flaws with Mars One’s published plans and predicted that even if the astronauts got to the surface unscathed, the first person would suffocate within 68 days because of a lack of equipment to balance oxygen levels effectively."

We can't even colonize the MOON.  What makes you think we can colonize Mars, a planet considerably further away from Earth, for the sole purpose of a REALITY SHOW?  Shouldn't we, like, make sure living there in the first place is possible?

Of course we should. It is silly to assume that the Mars One team had managed to overcome every obstacle. Reviews like the one you link are GOOD as that is how science works, it means the project can improve. Is Mars One perfect? No. Does that mean they should give up? No. According to your logic shall we just stay on Earth forever and not try and colonize anywhere? Doing is achieved by trying. Of course its a huge undertaking, that is common sense. Does that mean it is a scam? I highly doubt it. Which was my original point.

Your reference does not prove it is a scam, just like the previous reference from a disgruntled contestant does not prove it is a scam either.

Dude, I'm sorry for giving you the wrong idea. I agree with your opinions - we need to get the hell of this rock ASAP. Earth is humanity's cradle - we need to grow the fuck up, get over the greed and beaurocratic bullshit we fight and kill over. Humanity needs a universal body that looks past religion, politics, etc. and take our big ol' baby step towards colonization of space (and eventually planets).

One big meteor, and humanity is history. One nuclear war, and everything's over. Space colonies - I prefer the O'Neil cylinder Cheesy - can serve as our 'backup plan'.

I could go on but I'm at work, sorry.

I just think the Mars one project is looking too far ahead, considering our current technological/governmental/monetarymetc. limitations.

Maybe team up with Planetary Resources (look em up if you don't know) and start building revenue / resources from there Wink

Talk to you later!
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
Though, they are unlikely to gather the money for this project

They say they need 4 billion
Others say they need at least 60 billion

They have only gathered around a million so far if I'm not mistaken

I wanted to buy their mug and a hoodie, I was like omg, awesome, I can have a part in this magnificent event

But, seems like they are waaay behind realization
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...

You really think Mars One is a scam?

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/team

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/advisers

Over ambitious maybe, but I wouldn't say scam and personally I hope they succeed.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/feb/23/mars-one-plan-colonise-red-planet-unrealistic-leading-supporter

Quote
"A recent analysis by a team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) identified crucial flaws with Mars One’s published plans and predicted that even if the astronauts got to the surface unscathed, the first person would suffocate within 68 days because of a lack of equipment to balance oxygen levels effectively."

We can't even colonize the MOON.  What makes you think we can colonize Mars, a planet considerably further away from Earth, for the sole purpose of a REALITY SHOW?  Shouldn't we, like, make sure living there in the first place is possible?

Of course we should. It is silly to assume that the Mars One team had managed to overcome every obstacle. Reviews like the one you link are GOOD as that is how science works, it means the project can improve. Is Mars One perfect? No. Does that mean they should give up? No. According to your logic shall we just stay on Earth forever and not try and colonize anywhere? Doing is achieved by trying. Of course its a huge undertaking, that is common sense. Does that mean it is a scam? I highly doubt it. Which was my original point.

Your reference does not prove it is a scam, just like the previous reference from a disgruntled contestant does not prove it is a scam either.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...

You really think Mars One is a scam?

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/team

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/advisers

Over ambitious maybe, but I wouldn't say scam and personally I hope they succeed.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/feb/23/mars-one-plan-colonise-red-planet-unrealistic-leading-supporter

Quote
"A recent analysis by a team at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) identified crucial flaws with Mars One’s published plans and predicted that even if the astronauts got to the surface unscathed, the first person would suffocate within 68 days because of a lack of equipment to balance oxygen levels effectively."

We can't even colonize the MOON.  What makes you think we can colonize Mars, a planet considerably further away from Earth, for the sole purpose of a REALITY SHOW?  Shouldn't we, like, make sure living there in the first place is possible?
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...

You really think Mars One is a scam?

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/team

http://www.mars-one.com/about-mars-one/advisers

Over ambitious maybe, but I wouldn't say scam and personally I hope they succeed.
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Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...
wow its a dumb idea for a scam then
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★YoBit.Net★ 200+ Coins Exchange & Dice
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...
isnt it easier to live on mars than on moon as it is more similar to earth?
hero member
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Mars has vampires. Do not want brought back to earth.

Psh...vampires?  There are the hellspawn living on Mars: http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Doom_monsters
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Never ending parties are what Im into.
Mars has vampires. Do not want brought back to earth.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
You mean mars?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it

It was definitely a scam. We aren't even ready to live on the moon, let alone get a reality show started there Cheesy

Anyone who fell for this deserves the reality check...
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.

Well it just seems like a scam
It doesn't definitely prove it
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1026
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Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad

Wasn't there a lot of press coverage about it being a scam?
One of the participants said so too, over here.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1150
Freedom&Honor
Any updates going on with this project?

It hardly seems they're ever going to raise the money  Sad
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The vision is an interesting one, but there are problems associated with that length of space journey which have not been solved. Most saliently, how will the crew be protected from space radiation, solar flares, and coronal mass ejections for all that time, even before they reach Mars? Engineers may eventually solve this problem, but not likely on the time scale given by the project's boosters. Also, the cost of mounting the mission may have been underestimated by a factor of 10 to 100, IMO. It would be much easier to try this on the moon, which takes only a few days to reach, and which is close enough for terrestrial supply lines to be practical, at least until the technology of deep-space self-sufficiency is more developed than it is now; and doing so would not require nearly as much money to achieve.
legendary
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The project has a league table of different countries total donations.  As there accepting bitcoin donations I think we should pressurize them into putting total bitcoin donations into the league table.  I have already tweeted them about but received no reply. 
legendary
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(FYI: We have the tech now to sustain a colony on Ceres.)

Yeah right, in your dreams.  Like Franz Reichelt who was sure he knew aerodynamics enough to fly.

Delusional.

By the way I also believe we have the technology for this; we have the technology for many, many amazing things. It is the current socio economic system which is limiting this aspect of humanity's development (especially military budgets worldwide), not the technology we have available to us. That is why I think the Mars One Mission accepting Bitcoin is overall a positive development.
legendary
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If anyone planned any of your examples I'd think it was amazing. The crazy ones change the world - history has shown this repeatedly - that's all I'm going to say!

Sometimes they do, but most of the time they don't.  They are just crazy, and you don't remember crazy people who didn't change the world.

Take Franz Reichet, for instance.  This guy thought he could safely jump off the Eiffel tour with just a self-made suit.   He died of course.  Now, some people did jump off the Eiffel tour after him, but it was much more difficult than he thought, as it required a modern parachute and lots of training.

IMHO the death of Franz Reichet is very similar to this mars-one project.  Look at the people on the video who watch him.  They don't try to dissuade him, they just wait for him to jump, and then they watch him die.  Maybe they sincerely believed it could work, maybe they shared a dream.  Some of them might have said:  "Franz Reichet is crazy but it's crazy people like him who change the world!".  If they did, to me it's clear they were all delusional.

It's the same with this mars-one project.   The crew will die there and we are all going to watch them die, in the name of a delusion fueled by science-fiction.

It's sad, if you ask me.

No one knows if they are all going to die or not. I agree that the reality TV and one way trip aspects are a bit freaky, but on the other hand it is an important step. More generally though I firmly believe humanity's destiny is in the stars; space elevators, helium 3 mining on the moon, asteroid mining, exo planet habitation, the whole shebang.
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