Topic: Send shady merits - page 2. (Read 1098 times)

I think the buyer is only newbie who want to post images. They think copper membership is a bit expensive than buy 1 merit. The cost of copper is $ 26,67, while 1 merit is $ 20. They can save $ 6,67 to buy some food
No one will buy 1 merit for $20 if they're a member or above. It's a very stupid thing if someone member do it.

just seems like a lot of unnecessary work to create multiple accounts to xfer merit back and forth from and/or working with those to trade merit or even to buy it. However, people do it every day. They also buy legendary and hero accounts daily.

There is no trust or security here other than what one is willing to risk as you can truly never trust anyone here simply based on their account rank and/or merit.

Buying merits outside the forum can also be very risky in the sense that fraud is very likely to happen, unless an escrow is used - but would any trusted member agree to such a deal? I have no doubt in that, I know there have been cases where there are some reliable escrows that have mediated the purchase/sale of accounts, which is not explicitly banned - but definitely not desirable.


There are merit sales at a more affordable price, but I think some people do not care too much for unethical acts, they buy accounts before, now they buy/sell merits. This is something that is difficult to prove, and sanctions are very rare - which seems very encouraging to those who choose to do such things.

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What I would also like to mention is the unethical distribution of merits between the alt accounts. Some have made considerable progress in this way, but they still stay shitposters, and only merits which they could get, they gave to themselves. If I had 2-3 alt Legendary accounts my total number of merits would certainly be much bigger than it is now. But I never wanted to play dirty, those who cheat on others actually cheat on themselves.

Let no one get me wrong, a lot of members deserved every merit they got.

I always keep a little bit of Merit for those who deserve it, I'm never running out of them.

TEAM360 surely saw your message and most likely this thread too. They probably prefer to now go through PMs with potentially interested people rather than answering our questions. He/she knows what they're doing isn't right.

XinXan is also active (last active a day ago), but no response to this thread. Taking into account that he gives away Merit, he must know about the existence of this thread too.

Thanks for the merit, but you really need to send it to someone who could really use it and need them to actually rank up. I have no where to go any higher so basically those merits are just for prestige, and kind of a lost ones.

Back to to the OP, I have not received any answer to my question even tho the guy was online some hours ago. This kind of shady behavior is exactly what I expected, the whole case is a bit fishy. Let's wait and see how it will go.

No, as you can see, there's no punishment, no tagging restrictions, nothing happens 
Finding undetected users is unnecessary  Because there's no remedy or solution, nothing, I'm just posting here to see what everyone's opinion is about, this topic doesn't work to denounce such users.

Here's 2 more from me! Too bad you need activity, not merit, to advance to Legendary.. I really hope you're going to rank up soon enough - you really deserve it.

If someone's stupid enough to pay $20 for 1 merit which could be earned by simply posting a helpful thread/reply on the forum, they deserve their loss so let them be. They'll take down with them the members who've sent them merit too as they'd all become suddenly suspicious, so it's a win situation for us.

From what I've seen, those users who can't rank up due to lack of quality posting will give up in the end. Merit is such a good measure to stop them but I wish it wasn't a requirement for the top members like you and LoyceV Mobile to rank up.

Merit selling is not a big issue just because you won't be able to rank up more than member without being spotted.
You have a really high chance of loosing the account together with the investment you made when buying merit. If it's just to participate in bounties, that you are not so harmful for the community, of course you cheated your way up which is not nice, but you can't go any further up without consequences.

If 1 merit cost 20$ then you need to spend a bit more than 1BTC just to rank up from Hero to Legendary, I don't think anyone will make such investment only for ranking up.
Prices are ...
5000$ to rank up to Hero,
3000$ to rank up to Sr. Member,
1800$ to rank up to Full member
180$ to rank to Member.

So I saved myself 31680$ just earning my meirt for free

I saw many in the marketplace, many merit abuser selling merits. They sell each merit at a much higher price. Cost per merit is $20!   You can check here :  https://www.fiverr.com/dollydeval/supply-bitcointalk-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-account?ref_ctx_id=72b2b24c-2675-4e12-8695-d6011172768c



Many merit abuser may not have been caught by the community. But what I see is that, the users can not go too far by buying merit, they get stuck at a limited rank.

Many have sold services in a number of cases before that might have happened to many people on this forum, but are there steps to stop it?
By posting rubbish they still get examples of achievements as shown by the OP, only by posting like that then he was given to him.

LOL  Very easy money for anyone  I'm thinking about making money by selling merit, well, I'm going to get rich quickly with the amount of merit I can earn  Just kidding 
In the end, problems like this continued and I think no way to stop them. I didn't complain when I didn't get the desired amount of merit, I find cheating in merit seems too easy  It's not fair to many people out there

Maybe someone will dig up something relevant about his account and the possible connection with the accounts he sent merits. I think it's somewhere in 2015 or 2016 buying/selling accounts on forum become something that has become negative and DT members start to tag such accounts. Before that it was quite normal, selling and buying accounts was a legitimate business, and some members have a dozen of them, which is not against forum rules.

Problems arise when these accounts are used to abuse signature campaigns or for merit abuse. Airdropped merits on these accounts have become something that can be sold for a decent price. For example, Legendary accounts get 200 merits (in my case), and if you sell them for only $5 each it is easy $1000.

@TMAN, If there is an honor gift of the most generous merit sender, you must be the winner. I hope someone can make a thread to vote the most generous merit sender someday. And I will guarantee to vote for you. Anyway, those who got 50 merits from you are definitely so lucky members. Indeed they are good posters, but not all good posters are lucky as them, for example me (still not lucky)..    

Yes, it is a shortcut, rank up in short time. But we must know, it is the way to lose your account immediately. Someone will report it soon and the account will get "perma ban". Then say "goodbye" to the account because of the fool mistake!!  

So Xinxan's account could be hacked and now it's used for other purposes, there are too many ways to think in this case.

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I will do the rest with the merit you gave me  Merit should be circulated on this forum, whenever I see a worthy post, I will send merit  Thank you very much!

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I was surprised at the price of a merit, it was terrible  as I said above, maybe his account was hacked, he didn't work for a long time.

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Thanks for your information, but I don't have the authority or ability to check it, I just want to hear from everyone.

One more connection I am getting here from the investigation of marlboroza- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53757311

XinXan has given 5 merits to coinliker too. He has been tagged for selling fake reviews.

https://i.imgur.com/gu4KHEg.png

Team360 has posted a list of earning method-


If we check coinliker youtube channel, first 3 sites were recommended within the last week.

https://i.imgur.com/92y0thD.png

marlboroza can bring some more proof, maybe.

If 5$ would be high then what is 15$ for per merit? I have seen on Fiverr where many gigs are open for selling merit for 15$. I have also create a topic about it. You can see here

Btw @tafik123 you are really lucky. Congrats you for receiving 50 merits from TMAN

thank you for the appreciation bro.
I was active in the local Indonesian forum and there where I came from.
Only a few posts in English.

I can barely read English nevermind Indonesian!

but yea - what I can see I think you are deserving..

stay lucky my man!

you are amazing bro. Calculates all posts and gives 50 merits in this one post.
but he deserves it.
But am I worthy too?
Please check some of my previous posts.

sell 1 merit for $ 5 or more?
that's a pretty high price but for those who want to get merit and move up the rank quickly it certainly becomes a shortcut.
Those who use the services of buying and selling merit only make junk posts that fill this forum.

Everyone's free to give his merits to any post, but abusing it and traffic of merit is a different thing.

If someone's discouraged by the fact that a member's earned merit for a subjectively undeserved post and gives BitcoinTalk up for that reason, then their purpose being a member here is pretty clear. You don't write for the merit, you do it for the forum and because you just want to share an idea and some effort with someone else.

To me it looks like TEAM360 is an account trying to be boosted by XinXan, hence might be his own. Unless we've proof, that'll remain just a mystery though.
What looks pretty shady is that he's clearly offering services ("From 29th Jan to 31 Jan(The Year of 2020) I will provide free promotional service."), but two posts below he says "I don't offer any service here". This thread, which is his too, clearly offers services too.

The sketchy part comes with XinXan's activity. No posts since 12th of June 2019, yet he gave merit ('coincidentally') in the past month. Things get even sketchier when you put TEAM360's thread next to an ANN thread created by coinliker, a member XinXan has given merit to on the 7th of January. Both threads are using the general structure. Even the first paragraph is centered and bolded in both threads. I doubt TEAM360 was so inspired by coinliker's thread that he decided to go for the same thread structure.

The thing I cannot link though is the level of English these users are using. While TEAM360 is using a lower level of English ("but not reached much people", "Don't run add for your project" etc), the other mebers have a noticeably higher level of English. It could all be about intentionally using a lower level of English to lower the chances of the users being linked together.