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Quote from: shardison25 on October 03, 2018, 08:47:40 AM

wow..... after almost 10 days of off and on trying to figure this out, I HAVE LEARNED a ton thanks to you guys.

I now see my .135 bch in my coins tab of my electron cash wallet.

ok NOW......

SO I do not make this mistake again......

I save my address(es) and use the address as payment? can someone send me a link to a intro to bitcoins?

I appreciate all your help

Remember, the coins you now hold are Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and not Bitcoin (BTC). While Bitcoin.com may refer to BCH as Bitcoin, most of the rest of the world doesn't.

So if you're asked to pay with Bitcoin, most people will expect you to send them BTC and not BCH.

If you decide to send your coins to an exchange, double and triple check that you are sending them to the exchange's Bitcoin Cash / BCH address. If you accidentally send BCH to an exchange's BTC address (or vice versa), those coins are gone as most exchanges don't go through the trouble of recovering your misplaced coins for you.

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Quote from: shardison25 on October 03, 2018, 08:47:40 AM

I save my address(es) and use the address as payment?

You don't explicitly use addresses for payment. On a technical level addresses don't exist.

What you actually do (or better: your wallet does) is, taking multiple UTXO and combining them to new UTXO's.
A part of these new UTXO's (usually one) is being assigned to the receipent, while another UTXO is being assigned to a new address of yours (your change).

To do this your wallet does need to sign the transaction using the private keys associated to the UTXO's you want to use.

So, all you need to keep care of are the private keys. In modern wallets (almost everyone, including electrum) you only have to backup a 12 or 24 word mnemonic code.
All of your private keys (and therefore also public keys + addresses) can be derived using this word phrase (keep multiple backups AND secured + hidden from curious eyes).

Quote from: shardison25 on October 03, 2018, 08:47:40 AM

can someone send me a link to a intro to bitcoins?

I'd suggest visiting bitcoin.org. You'll find basic information there.
For further interest, google does give you quite a lot useful results.

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wow..... after almost 10 days of off and on trying to figure this out, I HAVE LEARNED a ton thanks to you guys.

I now see my .135 bch in my coins tab of my electron cash wallet.

ok NOW......

SO I do not make this mistake again......

I save my address(es) and use the address as payment? can someone send me a link to a intro to bitcoins?

I appreciate all your help

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Quote from: shardison25 on October 02, 2018, 11:53:37 AM

I see the address 1Ahw6xqEmarByEaCeVKitLQfprHhEqRjQW1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy in my Electron cash wallet now.

I see the address in the Addresses tab but what do I do with it now? I do not see a monetary value associated with the address. How do I know how much value is actually on this address?
There is nothing in my Coins tab.....

Then your client probably isn't properly snyced (check the circle at the bottom right, it should be green - if it is red, you might connect to another server to retrieve the information).
Your address 1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy does hold a balance of 0.271.. BCH.

Your address 1Ahw6xqEmarByEaCeVKitLQfprHhEqRjQW contained 0.271 BCH until you sent them to your other address (1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy) on 2018-09-24 at 20:30.

You can always check your balance on a block explorer. https://blockchair.com/ for example does support BTC and BCH.

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do you see the address ending with meccy on the addresses tab?

what color circle icon do you see in the bottom right of the electron cash window?

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I see the address 1Ahw6xqEmarByEaCeVKitLQfprHhEqRjQW1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy in my Electron cash wallet now.

I see the address in the Addresses tab but what do I do with it now? I do not see a monetary value associated with the address. How do I know how much value is actually on this address?
There is nothing in my Coins tab.....

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Quote from: shardison25 on October 01, 2018, 08:06:16 AM

Quote from: Abdussamad on September 28, 2018, 09:41:15 AM

The wallet that generates that xpub you posted above: xpub661MyMwAqRbcGQ6ZfyKW1nUpTt3g7Yem6brVwAmpMXUkvBnEEKCyJ1vHWiChSN8DMo7rfiyesYX g4tC43BvxNJkz5jwRKeNysVn3HFJCdxZ

This wallet ^ has your bitcoin cash. The easiest way to get them is to restore from seed using electron cash. So how about we concentrate on that? You said in post 20 that restoring from seed in electron cash fails. What happens exactly?

I was trying to restore from seed on my android and not a PC....once I came to a PC it worked.

So, I was able to restore from seed and now I have the address in my Electron Cash wallet that possibly has the cash on it. WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

There is no next step. Electron Cash is a bitcoin cash wallet so you can use it to send and receive bitcoin cash with the send and receive tabs respectively

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Quote from: shardison25 on October 01, 2018, 04:43:12 PM

https://www.blocktrail.com/BCC/address/1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy

does this mean my cash is still UNSPENT? I have to admit. I am lost on what to do now................

This means you successfully transfered BCH from 1Ahw6xqEmarByEaCeVKitLQfprHhEqRjQW to 1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy. Which is where the coins are waiting for you now.

So were you able to restore your seed using Electron Cash? Because then you should be able to see your balance, or at least 1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy in your list of addresses.

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https://www.blocktrail.com/BCC/address/1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy

does this mean my cash is still UNSPENT? I have to admit. I am lost on what to do now................

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Quote from: Abdussamad on September 28, 2018, 09:41:15 AM

The wallet that generates that xpub you posted above: xpub661MyMwAqRbcGQ6ZfyKW1nUpTt3g7Yem6brVwAmpMXUkvBnEEKCyJ1vHWiChSN8DMo7rfiyesYX g4tC43BvxNJkz5jwRKeNysVn3HFJCdxZ

This wallet ^ has your bitcoin cash. The easiest way to get them is to restore from seed using electron cash. So how about we concentrate on that? You said in post 20 that restoring from seed in electron cash fails. What happens exactly?

I was trying to restore from seed on my android and not a PC....once I came to a PC it worked.

So, I was able to restore from seed and now I have the address in my Electron Cash wallet that possibly has the cash on it. WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP?

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Quote from: shardison25 on September 27, 2018, 11:23:43 AM

Bitcoin.com Wallet
~snip~
Does this help at all for "which Bitcoin" am I using?

This does definitely help.. There is only one bitcoin (traded with ticker BTC or XBT).
Anything else is just a fork of bitcoin, which took the same code base and took the name to attract new money.

Quote from: shardison25 on September 27, 2018, 06:03:46 PM

I am an extreme rookie that obviously has no idea about what I have jumped into with Bitcoin.

That's never a good idea. Especially not if you are dealing with money.

Quote from: shardison25 on September 27, 2018, 06:03:46 PM

I deleted the Electrum app and downloaded again bc I didnt know if i had a defective app. luckily I took screenshots of my Seeds but i do not have the keys anymore. I just want to find my cash lol, this is crazy.

An app can't be 'defective'.
An app can be compromised or buggy. But not 'defective'.

If you have downloaded the correct app AND the app is trustworthy AND you have the backup of your seed, your money is safe.

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The wallet that generates that xpub you posted above: xpub661MyMwAqRbcGQ6ZfyKW1nUpTt3g7Yem6brVwAmpMXUkvBnEEKCyJ1vHWiChSN8DMo7rfiyesYX g4tC43BvxNJkz5jwRKeNysVn3HFJCdxZ

This wallet ^ has your bitcoin cash. The easiest way to get them is to restore from seed using electron cash. So how about we concentrate on that? You said in post 20 that restoring from seed in electron cash fails. What happens exactly?

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I really appreciate everyones input/feedback. It has def helped clear some questions I have had.

I am being 100% truthful. I am an extreme rookie that obviously has no idea about what I have jumped into with Bitcoin. I appreciate the urgency that you guys shared with me about showing my private key. I guess I dont clearly understand all of it yet and I have already and could make more mistakes without knowing.

I deleted the Electrum app and downloaded again bc I didnt know if i had a defective app. luckily I took screenshots of my Seeds but i do not have the keys anymore. I just want to find my cash lol, this is crazy.

please give me any more tips bc I am going to go on the hunt here in about an hour, EST time.

Thanks again guys

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on September 27, 2018, 11:32:33 AM

EDIT: AFAIK, you can't access your private key on Android Electrum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/getting-the-private-key-from-my-android-electrum-wallet-2381046

Unless you mean the extended or master privkey, you can export individual privkeys. In the current version of Electrum, you go into the 'Receive' tab then tap on the address. It will send you to a list of addresses in your wallet. Tap the address you want, then tap 'Details.' Their will be an option to 'Export private key' which will require you to input your passcode first. You can then tap on the privkey and it will be copied to clipboard.

In previous versions of electrum, the address list was in a tab called 'Address' just like the tab 'Receive' or 'Send.'

I have posted screenshots below.

Quote from: AdolfinWolf on September 27, 2018, 12:35:45 PM

Clearly you haven't been using the right blockexplorers. His adresses do check out in terms of BCH being stored on them.
Also he didn't post his privkey, but an xpub. However you make a fair point. I haven't checked it out, but as far as i am aware, there is no way to access an xpub on the android version of electrum? Or is it just privkeys that you're unable to access?

You can export the master pubkey as well, just not the master privkey. You need to tap the top part, which will take you to the master pubkey and place where you can get seed.

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Quote from: Theb on September 27, 2018, 12:14:13 PM

Nothing is really checking out on the information you are saying, I have checked both the wallet address and tx id you have given and none of them showed up in any block explorer I have used. Also you have given us another false information which you think that you have given us your private key carelessly, Electrum even gives warnings or reminders when you are trying to access your private key yet you just tried to post it publicly. I am starting to think that you don't know what you are talking about or worst just trolling us and wasting our time.

Clearly you haven't been using the right blockexplorers. His adresses do check out in terms of BCH being stored on them.
Also he didn't post his privkey, but an xpub. However you make a fair point. I haven't checked it out, but as far as i am aware, there is no way to access an xpub on the android version of electrum? Or is it just privkeys that you're unable to access?

See

#1 https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/1Ahw6xqEmarByEaCeVKitLQfprHhEqRjQW
#2 https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/1Asw9BGefMxkG4TTUhs1fsiKuyCQRmeccy

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Nothing is really checking out on the information you are saying, I have checked both the wallet address and tx id you have given and none of them showed up in any block explorer I have used. Also you have given us another false information which you think that you have given us your private key carelessly, Electrum even gives warnings or reminders when you are trying to access your private key yet you just tried to post it publicly. I am starting to think that you don't know what you are talking about or worst just trolling us and wasting our time.

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All my Electrum seeds do not work when I tried to upload the seeds into ELECTRUM OR Electron Cash....

Im getting a sense that I really was scammed on this?

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Quote from: shardison25 on September 27, 2018, 11:23:43 AM

Bitcoin.com Wallet

Version - v5.0-hotfix2
Commit hash - #9438960
Bitcoin.com Wallet is a fork of Copay made by Bitpay

Does this help at all for "which Bitcoin" am I using?

Yeah. That's a bitcoin cash wallet.

Did you buy your "bitcoins" (Bitcoin Cash) there aswell?

I'm not sure how easy it is to export/import private keys with mobile wallets. It might be more convenient to use a PC.

EDIT: AFAIK, you can't access your private key on Android Electrum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/getting-the-private-key-from-my-android-electrum-wallet-2381046

Have you saved the seed for electrum on your android? If so, import the seed on the desktop version of Electrum.

NOT ElectronCash, as they might generate seeds differently etc. I have no clue how they work.

From there you can export the private key into a BCH compatible wallet (ElectronCash), and you should be able to access your funds.

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Version - v5.0-hotfix2
Commit hash - #9438960
Bitcoin.com Wallet is a fork of Copay made by Bitpay

Does this help at all for "which Bitcoin" am I using?

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As i expected, you're not dealing with Bitcoin. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/1b03fb050d0524f1e8877877a369e9880e9c1127a8e3a82266b7bdb9d99869e9 shows your transaction already confirmed.
All you need to do now are download BCH wallet (Electron Cash is recommended) and import your Bitcoin's private key/seed (from Electrum) to Electron Cash. Do not share your private-key/seed

But, are you sure you didn't put the address in wrong order? If not, you might be scammed.

These BCH people were to be blamed. This is how they mislead people using the name of Bitcoin. @OP: I hope you did not share the private-key/seed with anyone. Clearly you messed up with BCH and BTC. BCH is Bitcoin Cash which is not Bitcoin, just keep this in mind next time.

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