Topic: Separate messages ASIC and FPGA already! (Read 3109 times)
Second. Scam hardware needs it's own thread.
The issues I have with BFL are that the threads are cluttered with their "announced" ASIC and customer support issues. A lot of threads that have nothing to do with hardware. There was one thread where op "basically had a prophetic dream" when the BFL ASIC would be shipped. No offense, but IMHO that really doesn't belong in the hardware section.
"op "basically had a prophetic dream" when the BFL ASIC would be shipped"Maybe that simply require someone to report it as "off-topic" or "brain fart" so it be deleted.
More likely, nobody will reply and the thread will die by itself.
Why not do the following :
General threads like mining market balance thing
CPU
GPU
FPGA
ASIC
Very logical and simple !
General threads like mining market balance thing
CPU
GPU
FPGA
ASIC
Very logical and simple !
The issues I have with BFL are that the threads are cluttered with their "announced" ASIC and customer support issues. A lot of threads that have nothing to do with hardware. There was one thread where op "basically had a prophetic dream" when the BFL ASIC would be shipped. No offense, but IMHO that really doesn't belong in the hardware section.
"op "basically had a prophetic dream" when the BFL ASIC would be shipped"Maybe that simply require someone to report it as "off-topic" or "brain fart" so it be deleted.
More likely, nobody will reply and the thread will die by itself.
The issues I have with BFL are that the threads are cluttered with their "announced" ASIC and customer support issues. A lot of threads that have nothing to do with hardware. There was one thread where op "basically had a prophetic dream" when the BFL ASIC would be shipped. No offense, but IMHO that really doesn't belong in the hardware section.
Its just non-obvious.
I prefer the more general phrasing because it includes specially-built mining hardware that isn't ASIC/FPGA. Readers of this section will be interested in such hardware. ASIC/FPGA is mentioned in the description.
Mining speculation would discuss scenario to the mining ecosystem, (the discutions possiblility are endless, ) Take for example : The mining market balance https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mining-market-balance-88766
Good idea. Done.
I'm against the split, but it should be FPGA/ASIC, custom is too vague
What topics count as "custom hardware" that shouldn't be in this section?
Its just non-obvious.
Granted FPGA chips are polyvalent but their implementation make them dedicated miners.
Mining speculation would discuss scenario to the mining ecosystem, (the discutions possiblility are endless, ) Take for example : The mining market balance https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mining-market-balance-88766
Good idea. Done.
I'm against the split, but it should be FPGA/ASIC, custom is too vague
What topics count as "custom hardware" that shouldn't be in this section?
Its just non-obvious.
I would also add a GPU section because free electricity kids will be mining on their high end GPU to the end of time and will forever to be an annoyance to the community. (sorry to sound ageist)
This is what the top-level Hardware section is for, I think.
Mining speculation would discuss scenario to the mining ecosystem, (the discutions possiblility are endless, ) Take for example : The mining market balance https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mining-market-balance-88766
Good idea. Done.
I'm against the split, but it should be FPGA/ASIC, custom is too vague
What topics count as "custom hardware" that shouldn't be in this section?
I would also add a GPU section because free electricity kids will be mining on their high end GPU to the end of time and will forever to be an annoyance to the community. (sorry to sound ageist)
Renamed to custom hardware for now. If you think it should be split, tell me why.
I'm against the split, but it should be FPGA/ASIC, custom is too vague
I don't like the idea of creating "Speculative" or "BFL" sections, as they are very specific to this situation. I want sections to be more general.
I don't follow the mining scene at all anymore. What FPGA mining hardware and ASIC mining hardware is available now, and what are the fundamental differences between these two technologies? I don't remember why this section is called "FPGA" rather than "ASIC" (which is better-suited for mining IIRC) or just "custom hardware".
Why ? becasue the subject related to GPUs, fpga, and asics are far from being the same.I don't follow the mining scene at all anymore. What FPGA mining hardware and ASIC mining hardware is available now, and what are the fundamental differences between these two technologies? I don't remember why this section is called "FPGA" rather than "ASIC" (which is better-suited for mining IIRC) or just "custom hardware".
Gpu = general computing
Fpga = soldering, programing
Asic = big business, VLSI, chip manufacturing, licensing
There is no reason to add an ASIC sub beside FPGA as there is a reason to name one CPU, other than for historical reasons.
You should rename FPGA to Custom Hardware / development right now and ponder on adding a "Mining speculation" sub.
Mining speculation would discuss scenarios of the mining ecosystem, (the discutions possiblility are endless, ) Take for example : The mining market balance https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-mining-market-balance-88766
Renamed to custom hardware for now. If you think it should be split, tell me why.
I don't like the idea of creating "Speculative" or "BFL" sections, as they are very specific to this situation. I want sections to be more general.
I don't follow the mining scene at all anymore. What FPGA mining hardware and ASIC mining hardware is available now, and what are the fundamental differences between these two technologies? I don't remember why this section is called "FPGA" rather than "ASIC" (which is better-suited for mining IIRC) or just "custom hardware".
I don't follow the mining scene at all anymore. What FPGA mining hardware and ASIC mining hardware is available now, and what are the fundamental differences between these two technologies? I don't remember why this section is called "FPGA" rather than "ASIC" (which is better-suited for mining IIRC) or just "custom hardware".
Hm I think a nice compromise would be to add "and ASIC" to the FPGA section to read "FPGA & ASIC"
I don't like the idea of creating "Speculative" or "BFL" sections, as they are very specific to this situation. I want sections to be more general.
I don't follow the mining scene at all anymore. What FPGA mining hardware and ASIC mining hardware is available now, and what are the fundamental differences between these two technologies? I don't remember why this section is called "FPGA" rather than "ASIC" (which is better-suited for mining IIRC) or just "custom hardware".
I don't follow the mining scene at all anymore. What FPGA mining hardware and ASIC mining hardware is available now, and what are the fundamental differences between these two technologies? I don't remember why this section is called "FPGA" rather than "ASIC" (which is better-suited for mining IIRC) or just "custom hardware".
I agree with this notion
Agree. Can we please separate BFL or "developing products" from the FPGA section?
Yes, seperate ASIC and FPGA in the forum. Its utterly cluttered in the fpga section now.
(anyone thought of a hashing algorithm that uses sha256 first and something only fpga and gpu/cpu can hash after it. Kind of an hybrid hashing solution, making it harder for anyone to take over the network, because you would need fast sha256 hardware and hardware for the second hash alogorithm, still owuld pose a change on the ahhing algorithm, but better than just leaving asics out....)
(anyone thought of a hashing algorithm that uses sha256 first and something only fpga and gpu/cpu can hash after it. Kind of an hybrid hashing solution, making it harder for anyone to take over the network, because you would need fast sha256 hardware and hardware for the second hash alogorithm, still owuld pose a change on the ahhing algorithm, but better than just leaving asics out....)
I propose we create a subforum "Mining > Hardware > Speculative" and empower admins to relocate to this subforum any thread dealing with stuff that isn't currently available for third-party verification.
Ask theymos.
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