Topic: Separation of Church and State (Read 590 times)

Its a separation of state and church, because of different ideas. For example church doesn't like same sex marriage.Church opposing death penalty but state like to implement. I believe that separation of state and church is necessary so that the state shall implement the programs in which the church opposes.

Definitely  must be separate. What that "leader" might have done is a crime punishable by laws of state, the church people have  the right to rally, but if they are shouting separation of church and state, then they should support the state in implementing its law against the suspected criminal.

But the only agreement that any member of society has with another, is a very tenuous thing. Show me the "society agreement" that I or anyone signed that makes us part of society. If you can't do it, church/religion is naturally separate from the State. If it isn't separation, there is no freedom, and the State is dictating everything.

Church can't be separated from the state since church is within the society

THe government is incharge of national peace and order of the country and security as well. If the church create crime or havoc in the society, which is believed to be not a task of the church, then the state has to meddle. Church suppose to be promoting peace, love and unity, order and obedience not only to God but to the state as well, and if they fail to do these and do the opposite intead, then they dont deserve the claim of separation from the state. They will be called not a church but barbaric rebels.

What is the smallest unit of the church? Isn't it the family? When a husband and wife, and the kids come together at dinner, and say grace for the food, isn't this a church?

What is the smallest unit of government (the state)? Isn't it the family? When the parents decide what their living conditions will be, are they not acting like a government? And when they order the kids around, aren't they being a government for them?

So, church and state at their basic, fundamental unit are united.

However, in the USA, when the 9th Amendment says that "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," doesn't that mean that the people have all rights that are not listed in the Constitution?

The Government isn't about laws for the people. The Government is about laws for itself and for those who by agreement place themselves under the laws of the Government.

Personally, I am not under the laws of Government. Because of this, I do not subscribe to Government funds for my religion. Nor do I accept Government regulation of my religion. Even Government agrees with me in the 1st Amendment, and in the 9th as I stated above.

If you don't like Government messing with your religion, stop being a citizen. Simply live on land that is not owned by Government, and don't do anything that is regulated in the Constitution. Smoke all the pot you want on your own land. And when people of Government try to regulate your freedom, sue them personally for harming you.

Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law" after you watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10.

There  is a boundary between the church and state.the church cannot easily dictate there idea in the state. And also the state cannot easily dictate there idea in the church. So they are legally separated.because there is a law amended with this matter.

Church shouldn't be separated from the State. It exists inside the state and have to live according to the laws of this state. So in my opinion government can interfere in Church's business

Separation of church and state just means that the State can not promote a single religion. It doesn't mean that the state cannot meddle in the doings of religious groups, especially if they are breaking the laws of the state.

Considering the freedom of both parties, it is just right to separate states and church. Both parties have different beliefs that they fight for, I don't see why not. There ade certain things they argue. And they argue a lot. It's just enough for me to separate them because of the difficulties they are experiencing. They argue and in that arguement, their supporters join the feud as well.

It's common sense, if a crime is committed in the vicinity of the church or if someone from a religion done a heinous crime an investigation must be made, those people rallying said by OP for me are hypocrites.

A wall of separation between church and state. This is a very strong statement, very clear in meaning. First of all, it means that the government cannot make laws that favor one religion over any other, because it cannot make laws related to the establishment of a religion or the free expression of religious beliefs. Therefore, individuals can pray in school, but public schools cannot require people to pray. The government cannot endorse any particular religion — meaning there can be no copies of the Ten Commandments in front of schools, nor nativity scenes in government buildings, nor Buddha statues in front of government offices.

Religious leaders and their followers should relish in this wall of separation, rather than trying to knock it down. Why? Because it is there not only to keep religion out of government, but to keep government out of religion. The wall of separation goes both ways; the Establishment Clause protects not only the government from meddling by religious organizations, but protects religious organizations from interference with the practice of their beliefs by government as long as those beliefs do not require actions, like human sacrifice, that break laws not related to religious practice.

What we really need now is some kind of separation of currency and state.. now that would be revolutionary!

There should be enough separation between the church and the state, because the former is not necessarily a democratic institution. Anyways, the church should rather concentrate on the religious affairs, rather than interfering with the government. Also, the motives of the church in certain sectors can differ greatly from that of the government. 

Separation of church and the state is a big deal and has a big impact to the continuous improvement of the country. As a united country we must act as one, we must abide the law set forth by the people and the law of god. The conflict cannot be eliminated between the two but through  peaceful talk, proper and wide understanding at the end of the day we all want to solve problems and all we want is peaceful and unite country.

Separation of church and state doesn't apply to this if a complaint has occur. If an institution breaks the law, no matter if this is a religious institution l, it is still subject to the law and it's punishment. In essence this is one of the reasons we have the separation of church and state. Now if the government however tries to change the doctrine of a religious institution then thats violates the separation of church and state. Same with if the religious institution tries to influence the government.

It is good idea that the church and the state is separated from each other. Church is all about the religious practices of the people and it's development to the moral aspect of everyone while the state only tackles about the whole development of community and to the future of it's countrymen and the progress that will affect everyone.

In this specific case, that separation can't actually be applied. If a person from a certain congregation or religion committed a crime, then regardless of where they belong to, they're bound to the law and should be punished.

the state in which a philosopher plato says, the head of state must be born a philosopher, because the world has two powers, namely the power of religion and philosophy, if such a state distances from religion it will be moral inequality in the country, and this actually endangers the country itself , the issue of secularism will be bunerang for its adopting nations,

In some countries, churches aren't even taxed. They make so much money and even establish schools that require high tuition fees, yet not 0% tax? C'mon it's time that everybody pay the same amount of taxes as churches do.