Serious topic, have these bookmakers ever robbed you? [Discussion]

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

I have also never heard of these bookmakers, but why do you need someone else's opinion here about these gambling sites in addition to the fact that, as you yourself say, many negative things are already known about them, it seems to me just bypass them so as not to join the ranks of victims of robbers.

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My experience with bookmakers so far has been good. I can still place bets as usual and have no problems. I never thought the casinos I used to engage in those negative comments because I believe that the casinos don't.

If you don't want to get involved with such casinos, you can read the reviews on this forum and forget about the reviews of the sites. Oh yes, there are members here who also provide reviews of many casino sites, which is a recommendation from us. By reading the reviews here, you can avoid those bad casinos so that you can relax playing gambling at a good casino.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Though the best experience is to experience it yourself. You could try them out with small amounts of deposits, but anyway. Mega Pari has its own thread here in the forum, here it is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/megapari-gamblingbetting-deposit-in-crypto-5418423

You can check and read the comments and reviews of users on their threads to have a general idea about their services. About the other two, I'm not really sure, maybe you should check on Google but also wait for other users to share their experiences with them and then evaluate their services based on the reviews you received on this thread.

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Quote from: blockman on March 15, 2023, 03:40:12 PM

I am only familiar with megapari because of their campaign yet I don't have experience with them. And with the others, I have never heard of them.
Since the representative of that casino also replied on this thread and it's concerning about the feedback you've made on them. They're very concerned about it and explained what they're up to with the KYC and giving a chance for everyone to try them without asking exactly about the first withdrawals. It's good to hear that they've got that style of managing KYC because, with the others, they are asking it exactly just after you withdraw your very first request to them. I am not here to defend them or what not but it seems that it really took their attention with the thread you've made but it's up to you if you wanna give them a try or not.

We do know its existence since it do made out some campaign running on this forum which most of us really do able to see that but not all havent been able to try out their platform but since there are some responses about these accusations about shady KYC application then it does really shows that they would really be handling out this issue and make out clarification which i could say that it is really a good move by them.
Just like on what you have said that i wasnt aware on the other two or havent heard of and this is why its that just that right that its better to stay away if ever you do saw that they are making
some shady moves.

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I am only familiar with megapari because of their campaign yet I don't have experience with them. And with the others, I have never heard of them.
Since the representative of that casino also replied on this thread and it's concerning about the feedback you've made on them. They're very concerned about it and explained what they're up to with the KYC and giving a chance for everyone to try them without asking exactly about the first withdrawals. It's good to hear that they've got that style of managing KYC because, with the others, they are asking it exactly just after you withdraw your very first request to them. I am not here to defend them or what not but it seems that it really took their attention with the thread you've made but it's up to you if you wanna give them a try or not.

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I aksed because i want to play some table tennis matches and they are available on these bookies, but as i said i heard a lot of negative thoughts like marbet85 said… They asking hundred selfies eith documents from you,and ither sick things, even if you make profit, then you need to fight eith them to take your money out

I will advise against opening an account there, even if the casino seems to offer the events that you are looking for and you seem to be a professional gambler, or at least you seem to attempt to be one, it is all for nothing if you cannot withdraw those profits and they take you through hell and back to get it, if you get your money at all that is, so look for another casino which has the matches that you want, or simply learn how to make bets on a sport different than table tennis.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

I think in most cases when people complain about bookies cheating them somehow, whether by locking accounts, freezing their money or asking for KYC, its usually always the gambler who broke the rules and terms of the online casino. And they come here to complain about being treated "unfairly".

Letting off steam after losing money or getting caught with a VPN and obviously not providing KYC because their country is on the blacklist. Of course they will not get their winnings back. But I think they can demand all their bet money back.

To be fair, there are rare cases of casinos acting shady. Usually this is about casinos which are new or unknown. You can easily avoid this by only going to the top casinos which are mentioned on these boards.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Why do you cherry pick some of these bookmakers? I guess you have personal problems with them. When I go to the scam accusation board I see almost all bookmakers robbed (scammed) their clients LOL.

Here, check and make your list. Do me a favour, find a bookmaker who did not rob any of the users who are complaining on the board LOL

P.S: You will find there are few common members who are always robbed by almost all bookmakers. What you take from it, is your problem.

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rule of thumb, only bet in sites that have accounts or connections here at bitcointalk, so you can easily contact them and ask for assistance if problems eventually arise. Matter of fact, don't even bet on sites that aren't that reputable to begin with. Coz that's how scammers trick people, they make you think you're safe, maybe even reel you in with generous "bonuses" you'll get if you deposit a certain amount, and then when you try to withdraw your earnings you'd get locked out of your account. I've been a victim of this one too many times in my journey with gambling, I knew too well to trust only those who have already great track records and never transact with sites that are too shady.

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Just like many other forum users, I did not play on these gambling sites because none of my friends did not recommend them to me and I have not heard rumors about their advantages over other gaming sites. As I understand it for a reason I did not hear about them, because after a cursory analysis I see that the negative reviews about them much more than positive. That means I will not register for them as I already have a lot of negative experiences with gambling.

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It is not a problem to submit the basic documentation of your documents and a selfie, but what they are asking for is absurd and exceeds the limits of normality. When you make a profit at the bookmaker, you cannot pay out the money, during the payment they will inform you via email or website that you need to submit a selfie with 2-3 different backgrounds and with different clothes, then when you send it, you wait for their response, which takes 2-3 days. After that, they ask again for some new types of selfies with other documents and they just try to extract some kind of picture from you, which if you are not able to send, then you will never pay your money.

It is clear to me that they do this in order to "make sure" that no one else is playing on that account, but if your account is from a friend or relative, you will certainly be able to take pictures of all the necessary documentation and pictures, but send someone 20-30 pictures of the documents with various types of selfies and other nonsense, it's still too much and it's embarrassing.

Their standards are way higher than the top bookmakers that I know here in the forum. If they continue like this, they are going to fail. Most of us gamblers just play directly without checking first if the site that we are playing is KYC free or not and we will likely get in to this situation where we will be needing to complete a KYC verification before we can withdraw the amount that we won.

I wouldn't mind doing those strict KYC rules but what I don't like is when I need to wait 2 to 3 days. Not only that but I will also be required to do another selfie. Why can't they just say that they are not willing to pay my money? But I will still try my best only to pull out my money and then I will never go back on that gambling site again as they gave me a lot of trauma.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I've never tried all those three but i've heard MegaPari and 22bet as I recall seeing them from a list of crypto bookies. If you're having that many doubts about those three bookies then it's better to look for another than to force yourself to play there when there are other good bookies available and the posts above are more than enough to give you an idea. It would've been understandable if they didn't have much competition and if they were like the top 3 bookies but they're not and you have more options available than before so don't limit yourself when it's unnecessary.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

I have heard about Megapari because they had or still have a running campaign in the forum. But I have never used any of them and I might never use them because there are many renowned and trusted casinos that are on my list.
But it is always important to read the terms and conditions of these casinos before you consider using them. Don't be in a haste to gamble without reading thier frequently asked questions and thier terms of service. If they go against their rules you can sue them or seek other legal actions.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Visit the topic with Megapari on this forum.Their support works publicly and you can ask all questions here,I'm sure that you will be answered and you will not have to wait long.You can safely test playing on the platform if you have any questions, then write to support, they will quickly respond to your questions.

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I want to play on that bookmaker but i have friends who already fight with your administrators over 3 weeks and how he says he must send 100 selfies and other photos of documents to make withdraw his money and that is not normal really

It's better if you ask your friend to create an account in this forum to post a scam accusations thread or you can post behalf of your friend, we don't know if the story you're saying is true or not, it's ridiculous if it's true the casino asking to send 100 selfies lol.

Megapari seems care with their reputation in this forum and they also have an active promotion too, so if it's still unresolved you need to post a scam accusation thread against Megapari to force them releasing the funds to your friend.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I've used maybe 2-4 of the online crypto casino platforms that are here regularly and I'm still actively using them, as well as experience, betting, bookies and so on to be honest, until now I have never been robbed or stolen anything from me, but it's different from my losing bets, that's a common thing called a game, of course there are winners and losers.

Problems that you often see accusations, negative comments about certain casinos/bookies that are here, I see cases that are mostly carried out by (beginners), members who are higher than that I rarely see problems.

Two thoughts that come to mind on a case by case basis against bookmakers.
1. Online casino rivals, with such accusations, the aim of bringing down the reputation of other casinos, but the opposite is happening.
2. It really happened in certain cases, but with their own mistakes, such as multi-accounts, money laundering, cheating and so on.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on March 14, 2023, 01:32:53 PM

Quote from: Yogee on March 14, 2023, 08:58:58 AM

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Forum explanation is should be more enough.

How can forum explanations be more than enough when none of us could really give a thorough review of the 3 casinos the OP is asking? You couldn't even give your own since you also don't know those casinos except maybe Megapari. That is the main reason why I suggested another platform.

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I never trust any blog review, because could be there has some partnership between the site and casino to make their review good (Paid review). Like Trust Pilot, the casino can bought a fake review to boost their review.

Well that's on you. Did you even check casinoguru before you decided to group them with the not so worthy Trust Pilot? I think they have a fair rating system. The scores they gave to each casino doesn't look like boosted.

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I haven't tried these gambling platforms. I think I am only familiar with megapari among the sites listed. If there are accusations, read them especially the responses of the gambling platforms concerned. If they have no response and they simply leave issues unanswered, I think I would be discouraged from using their platform. Especially if there are many accusations against them.

But to be safe, why not just choose those platforms that are quite clean and responsive? You have many options anyway.

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I don't have any experience with the casino on the list but I'm familiar with 22bet because I remember someone posted a scam accusation against them and megapari because they have a post here in the forum telling us about the nomination(of some kind) they got on a gambling award(not sure which gambling award it is). as for uberlucky, never heard of that sportsbook.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

I've never heard of these sites and I don't know why you're looking for a report about them when you yourself said you've read about "problems" involving these sites.

I usually only bet on sites that have a good reputation, if there are any negative comments I'm already afraid.
Really good are the sites that have topics here on Bitcointalk, and interact with users, this gives a lot of credit to the online casino.

And you can be sure, we have a lot of good sites with excellent reputations here, so there is no reason for you to bet your money on something unknown and that already has some negative reviews.

Stay safe!

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Basing up on the lists, then the only site i do heard of is Megapari and the rest is unknown or never heard of and for sure most people here does too.
I havent checked out about Megapari despite on hearing it off but if we do compare about its reputation to those old and reputable bookies of this crypto space then it is really just that far off.
The only site i do recommend when it comes to sports betting are these sites.

-Sportsbet
-Betcoin.ag
-Stake
-Nitrogensports

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I haven't seen any accusation thread against megapari or is it because I have not often been visiting the scam accusations and reputation board maybe that's why I missed the ones raised against them (if there are any,).
As for the rest I haven't tried to use them and now that you have brought them up in a topic like this I'm not sure if I'll ever be using them at all.

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Quote from: Fortify on March 14, 2023, 06:04:56 PM

Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Nope, but that's likely because I've stuck with mostly mainstream, fiat currency and the biggest gambling sites in the past. However that is an important thing that you have to learn to gauge yourself - how big is the site or app. If you end up on some small, obscure site with broken or copied text, few games, struggle to find much info online about it and cannot find help from places like the support system, it is a very bad sign. In general, big sites are much less likely to scam you simply because they make so much money just from running an honest and upfront gambling site. It's bad for business for them to rip customers off, so unless you intentionally abuse them like trying to sign up for multiple accounts, you're never going to "get robbed" by them.

The list is not familiar to most of the gamblers. This is why if you have not much of knowledge in this industry, much better if you would engage with mainstream gambling platforms or simply sites with reputation in this industry 'coz they won't be in such recognition for nothing. There are many gambling platforms exiisting in online gambling industry but not all would be worthy engaging yourselves with. Most of the nrw ones are worrisome. Which is why sticking with the popular and old ones would be always a better idea especially if you are just here to make casual betting behavior. New sites are only catchy simply because of huge bonuses they offer but if that would be an exchange to less of a worry, then I'm fine with lower promotions and such.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Nope, but that's likely because I've stuck with mostly mainstream, fiat currency and the biggest gambling sites in the past. However that is an important thing that you have to learn to gauge yourself - how big is the site or app. If you end up on some small, obscure site with broken or copied text, few games, struggle to find much info online about it and cannot find help from places like the support system, it is a very bad sign. In general, big sites are much less likely to scam you simply because they make so much money just from running an honest and upfront gambling site. It's bad for business for them to rip customers off, so unless you intentionally abuse them like trying to sign up for multiple accounts, you're never going to "get robbed" by them.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

I never have played in any of them but if they are FIAT bookmakers this is a common practice from them.I for example personally have had my bet365 account locked once I won over 3000 Euro in total of my game play they closed my account with some really lame excuse.That is why I always play on well established casinos who do not give a damn how much one win and they pay it,some guy had put 117 Ethereum on a tennis game with an odd of over 3 and won it in 383 Ethereum saw this in the chat of the casino and this is a good casino,this is Stake which if you check the chat while playing slots there you will see a lot of such big wins.I don't feel the need of playing anywhere else if some casino satisfy all of my desires for gambling.

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Quote from: Yogee on March 14, 2023, 08:58:58 AM

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Forum explanation is should be more enough.

I never trust any blog review, because could be there has some partnership between the site and casino to make their review good (Paid review). Like Trust Pilot, the casino can bought a fake review to boost their review.

Looking online forum review (especially while there has some problem) can take a good note for people who want to play.

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It is not a problem to submit the basic documentation of your documents and a selfie, but what they are asking for is absurd and exceeds the limits of normality. When you make a profit at the bookmaker, you cannot pay out the money, during the payment they will inform you via email or website that you need to submit a selfie with 2-3 different backgrounds and with different clothes, then when you send it, you wait for their response, which takes 2-3 days. After that, they ask again for some new types of selfies with other documents and they just try to extract some kind of picture from you, which if you are not able to send, then you will never pay your money.

It is clear to me that they do this in order to "make sure" that no one else is playing on that account, but if your account is from a friend or relative, you will certainly be able to take pictures of all the necessary documentation and pictures, but send someone 20-30 pictures of the documents with various types of selfies and other nonsense, it's still too much and it's embarrassing.

This is just absurd. I've never experienced such or heard anyone undergo that many verification.

It's quite clear that the casinos you're asking is not that popular here so you'll never get many feedback from forum members. You may as well try reading reviews from other gambling platforms such as casinoguru. I think they are pretty reliable when it comes to ratings. You can also read more complaints there.

Megapari - questionnable reputation with 6/10 https://casino.guru/megapari-casino-review
Uberlucky - very good reputation with 8/10 https://casino.guru/uberlucky-casino-review
22bet - very bad reputation with 3.7/10 https://casino.guru/22bet-Casino-review

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Haven't played on the mentioned casinos, so I didn't fell victims of this so called "robbers".

In any case though, I will just like to be fair though, maybe it was just like a isolated case for the OP, or this casinos are scamming then we should stay away from it by any cost. For documentation, or the KYC itself, yeah, I know that it's really a pain and we even have a lot of threads about it. That's why most of the time I think that we have already or at least accept that KYC will be a thing for us, no matter we wanted to be 'psuedo-anonymous" or doesn't want to submit our personal information to casinos or any crypto related services, i.e. exchanges.

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I aksed because i want to play some table tennis matches and they are available on these bookies, but as i said i heard a lot of negative thoughts like marbet85 said… They asking hundred selfies eith documents from you,and ither sick things, even if you make profit, then you need to fight eith them to take your money out

There is one known bookie if you are interested.
https://stake.com/sports/table-tennis
I always bet on this sport too even though I don't really know the players. I just like the fast results of the game and the availability that can be put in a long parlay for a chance to hit a jackpot in a day. Cheesy

High risk included of course.
Just a suggestion in case you are still having trouble finding a trusted bookie.
About the names you mentioned, I have seen them advertise their business here but never really tried them yet. So, I cannot help you out on that query.

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Hey. I am an official representative of the MegaPari gambling platform. We are concerned with the feedback shared in this thread. As far as I can see, what bothers you here is the KYC process that is requested before withdrawal. I have answered many questions regarding the KYC in our ANN thread, which you will find in my signature. The main problem here is that the process might take a longer time due to the low quality of pictures sent to the security department. They may lose in quality after uploading. We also do not ask for the KYC before deposit in order to let a player try the platform freely. The security department reserves the right to request the KYC at any time, but not necessarily after your first withdrawal request. Anyway, please follow our thread to find out more about the brand - FAQ, reviews, promos. Feel free to refer to me there once you have any questions.

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No one share experience with megapari yet? Some o us might just be interested as well.

This bookie is in the forum already are marketed here for weeks. I'm sure there are people who sign up just to try them out. If there aren't negative comments yet from the users of this forum about this bookie then maybe they are really up to building a good reputation in the bitcoin community. The rest of the casino seems unheard of here.

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Quote from: Zele365 on March 13, 2023, 10:30:13 AM

Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

22Bet, my experience:

This is one of the worst bookmakers. After making the profit, of course, additional verification, first the second document, i.e. the Driving License, then Selfie with a card and their inscription, and finally, additionally, if I paid via e-wallet, a photo with open e-mail from them, wallet and face. They are sick in short.

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Never heard and never know.

Most of us in "Bitcointalk" only know a casino site that provided a thread or some information here. Examples like Stake, my signature casino, and other casino who provided the information by creating a thread. Normal common, casino is acting like that. That's why never trusted centralized casino (website) who provided non-KYC feature or something like that, because is always based on term & condition they can ask you do that with some case.

Some advice, always tried casino with a review or sharing experience by some people/user not because (Streamer, Youtuber, or random blog).

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Guys I need experienced help from someone who has already bet on these bookies.

I'm curious about your experiences with them because I've heard a lot of negative comments about how they lock accounts, steal money, ask for a mountain of documents that are impossible to get and therefore you can't withdraw money from the account. I've read a lot of ugly comments about them, but I'm interested in who can honestly tell me with experience how you fared with those bookmakers?

They are in the list:
22 bet
megapari
uberlucky

Topic: Serious topic, have these bookmakers ever robbed you? [Discussion] (Read 313 times)