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July 10, 2012, 04:49:32 PM
#31
Essentially SETI they run their own pyramid with teams and competition and they are afraid inter-flow of participants.
legendary
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July 10, 2012, 04:46:43 PM
#30
The funny thing is that the project GPUGRID has a sub-project called Donate@Home that is mining to donate money to the project. So while the SETI guys spam idiocies about bitcoin, another project, with more clever people, use it to gain money and donations for the project

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I'm still all in for a BOINC bitcoin mining project that bundles everything that's needed to mine on P2Pool for example, but that's something different and would just use the BOINC client. The only difference would be that it would be easier to schedule some other projects on your mining farm as well.
   
It exists, Donate@Home http://donateathome.org/
19b62wRL6hGEWa1bLbkdjaiWvZm1C56XuL is their address

Received BTC: 2 355.39995

Not bad for non-believers...
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July 10, 2012, 04:45:35 PM
#29
Those people in SETI are already engaged themselfs in a perpetual game of listening to noise, you cant engage them in one more perpetual game called bitcoin, you know. People's attention resource is limited.
hero member
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July 10, 2012, 04:22:08 PM
#28
Check this out  Grin
http://io9.com/5921814/is-seti-at-risk-of-downloading-a-malicious-virus-from-outer-space/
Are SETI users really dumb, or something?  Shocked
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When we asked Siemion about the possibility of inadvertently receiving or downloading a virus, he stressed that the possibility is extraordinarily low, but not impossible.
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Be afraid

Like Siemion, Milan Cirkovic also believes that the risk of acquiring something nasty from an ETI is very real.
Getting computer virus via radiotelescope, form outer space? Damn...

Maybe they try to run the signal, until something funky happens  Grin
legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
July 10, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
#27
Check this out  Grin
http://io9.com/5921814/is-seti-at-risk-of-downloading-a-malicious-virus-from-outer-space/
Are SETI users really dumb, or something?  Shocked
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When we asked Siemion about the possibility of inadvertently receiving or downloading a virus, he stressed that the possibility is extraordinarily low, but not impossible.
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Be afraid

Like Siemion, Milan Cirkovic also believes that the risk of acquiring something nasty from an ETI is very real.
Getting computer virus via radiotelescope, form outer space? Damn...
Only if you use apple computers!
legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
July 10, 2012, 04:16:54 PM
#26
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First of all...why be involved in SETI in the first place??? I sure as hell don't want any aliens coming to this world. For all we know, they will be hostile and will enslave us or kill us all the while they would have just left us alone if we hadn't been beaming these constant radio signals at them taunting them and daring them to come to our planet to fuck with us.

So if the aliens ever do come down to enslave humanity, or turn the planet into a giant human meat farm, we can thank these people for inviting the aliens into our life

So much fail.

Actually they are listening to signals and if bad aliens are coming to invade us, they will detect them. And give us a chance to fight.
legendary
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If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
July 10, 2012, 04:15:03 PM
#25
The funny thing is that the project GPUGRID has a sub-project called Donate@Home that is mining to donate money to the project. So while the SETI guys spam idiocies about bitcoin, another project, with more clever people, use it to gain money and donations for the project

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I'm still all in for a BOINC bitcoin mining project that bundles everything that's needed to mine on P2Pool for example, but that's something different and would just use the BOINC client. The only difference would be that it would be easier to schedule some other projects on your mining farm as well.
   
It exists, Donate@Home http://donateathome.org/
19b62wRL6hGEWa1bLbkdjaiWvZm1C56XuL is their address
legendary
Activity: 1449
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July 10, 2012, 05:49:31 AM
#24
Check this out  Grin
http://io9.com/5921814/is-seti-at-risk-of-downloading-a-malicious-virus-from-outer-space/
Are SETI users really dumb, or something?  Shocked
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When we asked Siemion about the possibility of inadvertently receiving or downloading a virus, he stressed that the possibility is extraordinarily low, but not impossible.
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Be afraid

Like Siemion, Milan Cirkovic also believes that the risk of acquiring something nasty from an ETI is very real.
Getting computer virus via radiotelescope, form outer space? Damn...

You never watched Startrek I guess... these things happen all the  time Wink
legendary
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July 10, 2012, 05:42:06 AM
#23
Check this out  Grin
http://io9.com/5921814/is-seti-at-risk-of-downloading-a-malicious-virus-from-outer-space/
Are SETI users really dumb, or something?  Shocked
Quotes:
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When we asked Siemion about the possibility of inadvertently receiving or downloading a virus, he stressed that the possibility is extraordinarily low, but not impossible.
Quote
Be afraid

Like Siemion, Milan Cirkovic also believes that the risk of acquiring something nasty from an ETI is very real.
Getting computer virus via radiotelescope, form outer space? Damn...
legendary
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July 10, 2012, 05:11:26 AM
#22
We are searching for solutions to the Alien Generals' Invasion Problem, a well known problem in military consensus-making among invading generals. Thus the more likely it becomes that we detect the alien generals' communications the more important it becomes that we have the technology to solve such problems the better to predict them...

-MarkM-
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July 10, 2012, 04:39:35 AM
#21
Replies as in that thread are symptomatic of people who hear about Bitcoin mining before they hear about Bitcoin.

If you tell someone "hey, there's this thing called Bitcoin mining, it's some crazy system where it's valuable because it costs electricity, you can make money!" of course you'll get a strong negative reaction.

But if you say "Bitcoin is the world's first decentralized digital currency. It [Enter your favorite part of the long list of advantages Bitcoin has here]. Bitcoins are valuable because of their usefulness in commerce. Oh, and there's a thing called mining which makes the whole system work. Care to join in and be paid for your contribution?", you might not get any reaction at all, but if they make it through the first part, the reaction should be much more positive.
legendary
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July 10, 2012, 03:50:44 AM
#20
These SETI people are so full of dumbassedness I don't know where to start.




First of all...why be involved in SETI in the first place??? I sure as hell don't want any aliens coming to this world. For all we know, they will be hostile and will enslave us or kill us all the while they would have just left us alone if we hadn't been beaming these constant radio signals at them taunting them and daring them to come to our planet to fuck with us.


Now you are sounding just like them. Not cool.


So if the aliens ever do come down to enslave humanity, or turn the planet into a giant human meat farm, we can thank these people for inviting the aliens into our life.


They are listening for signals - not inviting aliens  ( although I wouldn't mind...)


And they have the nerve to say that bitcoin miners are "wasting" their computer resources.  Hrmph....


Theoretically, if bitcoin goes to 0 tomorrow it would be a waste of time/energy etc... for some people .
I spent ( as I stated above) tons of cpu cycles looking for aliens and cancer research and other projects and never felt it was a waste of time.



And as for the repeated accusations of bitcoin being a "pyramid scheme," as if that is a bad thing....who do they think built the REAL pyramids???  It was the space aliens ordering around the Egyption slaves, DUHHHHH!!!

Anyways, the aliens are going to return on December 22 (or 23, I never remember exactly) so once that happens, asuming they decide to allow our species to continue to live, maybe some of these SETI people will be willing to turn their computing resources over to the bitcoin network once they have seen these aliens for themselves and realize humanity is doing just fine without having aliens everywhere getting underfoot.


After reading this part, I'm not sure if you you're whole message was serious or you are just being sarcastic.....
hero member
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July 10, 2012, 03:48:06 AM
#19
Seti is one of the worst boinc projects, that's why I don't run it much.  I have 600M+ in boinc (places me in the top 200), so I posted into the seti thread.  I don't expect it to do anything.  I'd be better to get my boinc team to bring all their ati cards across, but that's not he point.  Ignore the ignorant.
sr. member
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July 10, 2012, 03:18:08 AM
#18
These SETI people are so full of dumbassedness I don't know where to start.

First of all...why be involved in SETI in the first place??? I sure as hell don't want any aliens coming to this world. For all we know, they will be hostile and will enslave us or kill us all the while they would have just left us alone if we hadn't been beaming these constant radio signals at them taunting them and daring them to come to our planet to fuck with us.

So if the aliens ever do come down to enslave humanity, or turn the planet into a giant human meat farm, we can thank these people for inviting the aliens into our life.

And they have the nerve to say that bitcoin miners are "wasting" their computer resources.  Hrmph....


And as for the repeated accusations of bitcoin being a "pyramid scheme," as if that is a bad thing....who do they think built the REAL pyramids???  It was the space aliens ordering around the Egyption slaves, DUHHHHH!!!

Anyways, the aliens are going to return on December 22 (or 23, I never remember exactly) so once that happens, asuming they decide to allow our species to continue to live, maybe some of these SETI people will be willing to turn their computing resources over to the bitcoin network once they have seen these aliens for themselves and realize humanity is doing just fine without having aliens everywhere getting underfoot.
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July 10, 2012, 02:59:06 AM
#17
I don't think we can call them dumb or similar, they are just not informed about how bitcoin system works. Maybe they would call dumb our headbanging to the wall when we hear 10years of electricity, CPU and GPU for... Of course, we are more flexible and we don't think that way  Grin
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July 10, 2012, 02:26:13 AM
#16
I wouldnt bother the SETI community, they are actually using their computing resources to do something useful Smiley
legendary
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July 10, 2012, 01:00:32 AM
#15
FAH + bitcoin mining has come up often, especially when GPU mining was new.

Problems:
FAH uses completely different (not very well documented, proven secure and audited) algorithms.
FAH uses floating point math, BTC mining doesn't.
FAH doesn't scale well.
Even folders themselves didn't like the idea of their "ressource donation" work being used to power the difficulty of some funky internet funny money.
It is not clear if FAH can generate work indefinitely and of consistent difficulty.

I'm still all in for a BOINC bitcoin mining project that bundles everything that's needed to mine on P2Pool for example, but that's something different and would just use the BOINC client. The only difference would be that it would be easier to schedule some other projects on your mining farm as well.
yxt
legendary
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July 09, 2012, 04:39:22 PM
#14
@farfiman
This problem is known to me. For years I had folded proteins.
Stupid, I'm even sometime stumbled over Bitcoin but did not recognized the popential.
skipped the part with the self-adjusting difficulty.... If I could just forget  Cry


It's not only the search for aliens. DC today includes so much more ..... protein folding, etc etc check http://boinc.berkeley.edu

it would actually perfect if we could get our difficulty therefore and not by prefixed zeros

mining and fight cancer at the same time!
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July 09, 2012, 04:20:44 PM
#13
This whole thread makes me want to buy more bit coins Cheesy
legendary
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July 09, 2012, 04:12:23 PM
#12
Meh, just let them be. After all, they at least have heard about BTC.

If they think it's a pyramid scam, telling them it's not will just make it "more obvious" that it's indeed a pyramid scam. Letting such threads die instead of preaching is the correct way of treating this stuff imho.
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