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Topic: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! - page 56. (Read 274841 times)

hero member
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I don't see any reply of yours on this post of mine. Have a look and let me know what's the problem.

I'm still looking into it.


What number format is your machine using?
Can you send me the content of DICEBOTLOG.txt file after you tried to log in (if it exists)? There shouldn't be any private information in it, but feel free to PM/email it to me.

I have the the dicebotlog.txt but how do i know if there is any private info in that or not?
also it is trying to connect with two different ips with same port and showing that can't established connection which is may be the reason. Is it possible to connect with some other port than 4444
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
I don't see any reply of yours on this post of mine. Have a look and let me know what's the problem.

I'm still looking into it.


What number format is your machine using?
Can you send me the content of DICEBOTLOG.txt file after you tried to log in (if it exists)? There shouldn't be any private information in it, but feel free to PM/email it to me.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500


I tried to login into dicebot through api from yolodice. But i can't login into your dicebot. while i tried to login in to other sites through dicebot then I had no problem. Also I gave my api to my friend and asked him to login through it. He was sucessfully able to login into my account through that api. So why can't i login into dicebot through api? Guide me a bit.

Does it say anything at the bottom of the bot in the status bar?

What number format is your machine using?
What version of windows are you using?
Have you tried running the bot as administrator? (unlikely but might be a firewall or port binding issue)
Are you running the latest version of the bot? (3.3.5 at time of writing)

Yes i am using latest version of Dicebot. I am using windows 7 32 bit version. I am running it as administrator.
Here is a screenshot of dicebot http://prntscr.com/g1ak7e.

I don't see any reply of yours on this post of mine. Have a look and let me know what's the problem.
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
ROFL... Thanks for correcting that, l will just go and ninja edit my post Wink

knew I'd probably screw it up... that's what you get for doing stuff after a 12hr shift with 1.5hrs sleep Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
Yeah... Excel is the quick and dirty way to do this... In the simplest form, you want to have 5 columns... and 2 "fixed" cells:

Columns: BetNumber, BetAmount, SumWagered, WinAmount, Profit
Fixed Cells: Multiplier, Payout

First Row formulas:
BetNumber=1
BetAmount=0.00000001
SumWagered=BetAmount
WinAmount=BetAmount*Payout
Profit=WinAmount-SumWagered

2nd (and further rows):
BetNumber=PreviousBetNumber+1
BetAmount=PreviousBetAmount*Multiplier
SumWagered=PreviousBetAmount+BetAmount SumWagered=PreviousSumWagered+BetAmount
WinAmount=BetAmount*Payout
Profit=WinAmount-SumWagered

To determine the "max" number of rounds you can survive... I plug in a "guess" for the first BetAmount value... then look down to the row where SumWagered > Balance... the BetNumber BEFORE that row is the max number of losses before you can no longer wager. Make first BetAmount smaller to make max Rounds bigger... and vice versa

I'm not sure of an easier way to explain it Undecided I could upload a basic spreadsheet somewhere if you let me know what format you need...
HCP
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 4361
Yeah... Excel is the quick and dirty way to do this... In the simplest form, you want to have 5 columns... and 2 "fixed" cells:

Columns: BetNumber, BetAmount, SumWagered, WinAmount, Profit
Fixed Cells: Multiplier, Payout

First Row formulas:
BetNumber=1
BetAmount=0.00000001
SumWagered=BetAmount
WinAmount=BetAmount*Payout
Profit=WinAmount-SumWagered

2nd (and further rows):
BetNumber=PreviousBetNumber+1
BetAmount=PreviousBetAmount*Multiplier
SumWagered=PreviousSumWagered+BetAmount
WinAmount=BetAmount*Payout
Profit=WinAmount-SumWagered

To determine the "max" number of rounds you can survive... I plug in a "guess" for the first BetAmount value... then look down to the row where SumWagered > Balance... the BetNumber BEFORE that row is the max number of losses before you can no longer wager. Make first BetAmount smaller to make max Rounds bigger... and vice versa

I'm not sure of an easier way to explain it Undecided I could upload a basic spreadsheet somewhere if you let me know what format you need...
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
Thank you so much, Seuntjie.

Just what I was looking for. I made a rudimentary spreadsheet after reading your first post, and this formula seems to match it pretty good. Im gonna see if I can implement this formula into the script you posted that uses the advanced settings and calculates the starting bet based on the wallet size.

Thank you, again :-)

Forget that formula! I was an idiot in the spreadsheet I did to compare the formula against. It doesn't work.


I'm not great at maths. Simply put, I don't have a formula to calculate the sum total wagered. I've asked a match wiz friend of mine if he can come up with something and I'll post it if he does. In the mean time, just calculate it in excel, correctly, and not like me the sum total of the last 2 bets.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Thank you so much, Seuntjie.

Just what I was looking for. I made a rudimentary spreadsheet after reading your first post, and this formula seems to match it pretty good. Im gonna see if I can implement this formula into the script you posted that uses the advanced settings and calculates the starting bet based on the wallet size.

Thank you, again :-)
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
Using bots in dice games is very high risk. You could have lost all your coin and without any clarity from the bot developer. Then you will not be able to predict whether the bot will run as described, Bdw all decisions are in your hands.

Im not blaming anyone for making me gamble. Im just pointing out that the formula Im using is clearly not right. All Im asking for is if someone can help me find a way to calculate my starting bet when playing regular Martingale.

I'll try to give a more constructive answer a bit later, busy right now. Easiest is usually to just calculate it in excel though.

newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Using bots in dice games is very high risk. You could have lost all your coin and without any clarity from the bot developer. Then you will not be able to predict whether the bot will run as described, Bdw all decisions are in your hands.

Im not blaming anyone for making me gamble. Im just pointing out that the formula Im using is clearly not right. All Im asking for is if someone can help me find a way to calculate my starting bet when playing regular Martingale.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Using bots in dice games is very high risk. You could have lost all your coin and without any clarity from the bot developer. Then you will not be able to predict whether the bot will run as described, Bdw all decisions are in your hands.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Hello, Seuntjie.

I have just started using your DiceBot, and so far Im a big fan of all the options you have implemented.
My problem probably doesnt have anything with your program to do, but you seem well versed in the math behind all this so maybe you can shed some light on this.

Im using the formula of compounding interest to calculate my Starting Bet, witch I have also seen you refer to on a steemit post:

Simple Martingale. Wallet size: 0.06, Multiplier: 1.12, Calculated losing streak: 80  

0.06/(1.12^80)=0.00000692   or   1.12^80*0.00000600=0.05195

With this calculation I used the starting bid of 0.00000600, but after a loosing streak of 64 it stopped because of too low balance. I had about 0.003 balance afterwards. Now this is getting too complicated for myself to figure out and Im asking for some help in this matter.

For the time being Im using the same calculation, but calculating with a 1.13 multiplier and using a 1.12 multiplier in DiceBot. This have held me through a losing streak of 69 so far, but the progression is much slower as I have to use a much smaller initial bet.

*EDIT* I just got beat again on a loosing streak of 68 with a Starting bet of 0.00000090 and a balance of 0.017 with the last losing bid of bid of 0.00178. Anyone that can help me out with a proper formula to calculate starting bet?

Lathly
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Activity: 319
Merit: 100
- there is possibility to make that it update every "basebet" that he make from actually balance? like basebet=balance*0.0002(for example) but to update i need to type stop/start after every big win(not to use only when starting a bot), if i want to use agressive bankroll managment(its not updeiting automatically after every win) how i can do that, if can?!
 

If you're using the programmer mode yes. If you need help with this, you can feel free to ask in the thread below.


how i can type to stop bot, after next win?!

If you're using the advanced mode, click on "stop on win". If you're using the programmer mode, you need monitor a variable and stop if that variable is true, then set it to true when you want it to stop on a win. There was recently an example of this in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114503.new#new

ofc programmer mode, thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
- there is possibility to make that it update every "basebet" that he make from actually balance? like basebet=balance*0.0002(for example) but to update i need to type stop/start after every big win(not to use only when starting a bot), if i want to use agressive bankroll managment(its not updeiting automatically after every win) how i can do that, if can?!
 

If you're using the programmer mode yes. If you need help with this, you can feel free to ask in the thread below.


how i can type to stop bot, after next win?!

If you're using the advanced mode, click on "stop on win". If you're using the programmer mode, you need monitor a variable and stop if that variable is true, then set it to true when you want it to stop on a win. There was recently an example of this in this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1114503.new#new
full member
Activity: 319
Merit: 100
hello there, iv found a bug in bot in their betting multiplie system about payout structure in small betting amounts, or idk, this bug is on two different sites. (maybe its global payout bug?!)
with who i need to talk about that?!

Post the details of the bug here or submit it to https://bot.seuntjie.com/bugreport.aspx



idk if u will see image in good quality to see that...

btw, it happens every 1-3minutes allday long to me.

simple story, if u bet 1 on 5% chance to get 19(+18) all is fine, but when u bet 1,1 or 1,4 or 1,7 or 1,9 or 2,1 or 2,9 etc... you will get smaller payout than u made 1 bet! (1 = 0.00000001)

like sample - bet 1 > get 18, but when bet 1,XX > get 17.XX (5% chance - x19.84 payout)

system dsn;t like small decimals, or what?!

The problem is that for some sites I need to calculate the profit manually, the site doesn't send the profit for the bet, and the sites generally only work up to 8 decimals.

As a result, the bot remembers the bet as 0.00000001119364, but the site sees it as 0.00000001. For 999dice for example, I get the payout for the bet, but not the profit (payout is total amount the bet returns, for example when you bet 1 on x2, payout is 2, profit is payout - bet amount, so for the same example, profit is 1). Since the site sees the bet as 0.00000001, the payout is 0.00000018. To calculate the profit, the bet takes 0.00000018 (returned from the site)-0.00000001119364 (local) = 0.00000017880636.

So in reality, that bet was for 0.00000001 and the profit was 0.00000018, but the bot can only work with what it has, resulting in the slightly different displayed values.

It is not a very significant bug in my opinion because it generally only affects bets to the order of e-9, which is less than the smallest decimal for bitcoin, and it is site specific. I will look into fixing it, but it's not a high priority.

I hope each of those bots are running on different accounts/sites, and from different folders.
so you want to say, that i have profit even when dicebot it dsn't shows? like my example, i bet 1,9 i need to get 36,1, but i get only 17! where is difference 19???
or it's not bot fault, but sites fault, and there is no possibility to play on small amount with small increases?!(no possibility to play +EV on any site with small amount/bankroll)

this is in cryptogames and in 999dice site, both have this issues.

You're misreading your decimals. It's not 1.9, you bet 1.19. And you didn't actually wager 1.19, your actual bet at the site is 1.

And no, you can't play with single digits and small increments. Sites work up to 8 decimals. You can bet either 0.00000001 OR 0.00000002, nothing in between.


Edit: The bot allows you to set small increases for very small bets because it overflows eventually. If you increase 0.00000001 by 5% enough times, it will tip over to 0.00000002 eventually. Until it does, it bets 0.00000001

no i have no misreading, i have many screanshots where my bets was more than 1,5 2,5 like 2,6(on the upper side), but i get paid like its simple 2... even smaller little bit, idk why

thanks for info about small decimals, something new for me! Smiley

two more questions in about bot:
 - there is possibility to make that it update every "basebet" that he make from actually balance? like basebet=balance*0.0002(for example) but to update i need to type stop/start after every big win(not to use only when starting a bot), if i want to use agressive bankroll managment(its not updeiting automatically after every win) how i can do that, if can?!
 - how i can type to stop bot, after next win?!

suggestion for bot - to make reset/clear "lifetime graphic"

thank you!
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
hello there, iv found a bug in bot in their betting multiplie system about payout structure in small betting amounts, or idk, this bug is on two different sites. (maybe its global payout bug?!)
with who i need to talk about that?!

Post the details of the bug here or submit it to https://bot.seuntjie.com/bugreport.aspx



idk if u will see image in good quality to see that...

btw, it happens every 1-3minutes allday long to me.

simple story, if u bet 1 on 5% chance to get 19(+18) all is fine, but when u bet 1,1 or 1,4 or 1,7 or 1,9 or 2,1 or 2,9 etc... you will get smaller payout than u made 1 bet! (1 = 0.00000001)

like sample - bet 1 > get 18, but when bet 1,XX > get 17.XX (5% chance - x19.84 payout)

system dsn;t like small decimals, or what?!

The problem is that for some sites I need to calculate the profit manually, the site doesn't send the profit for the bet, and the sites generally only work up to 8 decimals.

As a result, the bot remembers the bet as 0.00000001119364, but the site sees it as 0.00000001. For 999dice for example, I get the payout for the bet, but not the profit (payout is total amount the bet returns, for example when you bet 1 on x2, payout is 2, profit is payout - bet amount, so for the same example, profit is 1). Since the site sees the bet as 0.00000001, the payout is 0.00000018. To calculate the profit, the bet takes 0.00000018 (returned from the site)-0.00000001119364 (local) = 0.00000017880636.

So in reality, that bet was for 0.00000001 and the profit was 0.00000018, but the bot can only work with what it has, resulting in the slightly different displayed values.

It is not a very significant bug in my opinion because it generally only affects bets to the order of e-9, which is less than the smallest decimal for bitcoin, and it is site specific. I will look into fixing it, but it's not a high priority.

I hope each of those bots are running on different accounts/sites, and from different folders.
so you want to say, that i have profit even when dicebot it dsn't shows? like my example, i bet 1,9 i need to get 36,1, but i get only 17! where is difference 19???
or it's not bot fault, but sites fault, and there is no possibility to play on small amount with small increases?!(no possibility to play +EV on any site with small amount/bankroll)

this is in cryptogames and in 999dice site, both have this issues.

You're misreading your decimals. It's not 1.9, you bet 1.19. And you didn't actually wager 1.19, your actual bet at the site is 1.

And no, you can't play with single digits and small increments. Sites work up to 8 decimals. You can bet either 0.00000001 OR 0.00000002, nothing in between.


Edit: The bot allows you to set small increases for very small bets because it overflows eventually. If you increase 0.00000001 by 5% enough times, it will tip over to 0.00000002 eventually. Until it does, it bets 0.00000001
full member
Activity: 319
Merit: 100
hello there, iv found a bug in bot in their betting multiplie system about payout structure in small betting amounts, or idk, this bug is on two different sites. (maybe its global payout bug?!)
with who i need to talk about that?!

Post the details of the bug here or submit it to https://bot.seuntjie.com/bugreport.aspx



idk if u will see image in good quality to see that...

btw, it happens every 1-3minutes allday long to me.

simple story, if u bet 1 on 5% chance to get 19(+18) all is fine, but when u bet 1,1 or 1,4 or 1,7 or 1,9 or 2,1 or 2,9 etc... you will get smaller payout than u made 1 bet! (1 = 0.00000001)

like sample - bet 1 > get 18, but when bet 1,XX > get 17.XX (5% chance - x19.84 payout)

system dsn;t like small decimals, or what?!

The problem is that for some sites I need to calculate the profit manually, the site doesn't send the profit for the bet, and the sites generally only work up to 8 decimals.

As a result, the bot remembers the bet as 0.00000001119364, but the site sees it as 0.00000001. For 999dice for example, I get the payout for the bet, but not the profit (payout is total amount the bet returns, for example when you bet 1 on x2, payout is 2, profit is payout - bet amount, so for the same example, profit is 1). Since the site sees the bet as 0.00000001, the payout is 0.00000018. To calculate the profit, the bet takes 0.00000018 (returned from the site)-0.00000001119364 (local) = 0.00000017880636.

So in reality, that bet was for 0.00000001 and the profit was 0.00000018, but the bot can only work with what it has, resulting in the slightly different displayed values.

It is not a very significant bug in my opinion because it generally only affects bets to the order of e-9, which is less than the smallest decimal for bitcoin, and it is site specific. I will look into fixing it, but it's not a high priority.

I hope each of those bots are running on different accounts/sites, and from different folders.
so you want to say, that i have profit even when dicebot it dsn't shows? like my example, i bet 1,9 i need to get 36,1, but i get only 17! where is difference 19???
or it's not bot fault, but sites fault, and there is no possibility to play on small amount with small increases?!(no possibility to play +EV on any site with small amount/bankroll)

this is in cryptogames and in 999dice site, both have this issues.
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
hello there, iv found a bug in bot in their betting multiplie system about payout structure in small betting amounts, or idk, this bug is on two different sites. (maybe its global payout bug?!)
with who i need to talk about that?!

Post the details of the bug here or submit it to https://bot.seuntjie.com/bugreport.aspx



idk if u will see image in good quality to see that...

btw, it happens every 1-3minutes allday long to me.

simple story, if u bet 1 on 5% chance to get 19(+18) all is fine, but when u bet 1,1 or 1,4 or 1,7 or 1,9 or 2,1 or 2,9 etc... you will get smaller payout than u made 1 bet! (1 = 0.00000001)

like sample - bet 1 > get 18, but when bet 1,XX > get 17.XX (5% chance - x19.84 payout)

system dsn;t like small decimals, or what?!

The problem is that for some sites I need to calculate the profit manually, the site doesn't send the profit for the bet, and the sites generally only work up to 8 decimals.

As a result, the bot remembers the bet as 0.00000001119364, but the site sees it as 0.00000001. For 999dice for example, I get the payout for the bet, but not the profit (payout is total amount the bet returns, for example when you bet 1 on x2, payout is 2, profit is payout - bet amount, so for the same example, profit is 1). Since the site sees the bet as 0.00000001, the payout is 0.00000018. To calculate the profit, the bet takes 0.00000018 (returned from the site)-0.00000001119364 (local) = 0.00000017880636.

So in reality, that bet was for 0.00000001 and the profit was 0.00000018, but the bot can only work with what it has, resulting in the slightly different displayed values.

It is not a very significant bug in my opinion because it generally only affects bets to the order of e-9, which is less than the smallest decimal for bitcoin, and it is site specific. I will look into fixing it, but it's not a high priority.

I hope each of those bots are running on different accounts/sites, and from different folders.
full member
Activity: 319
Merit: 100
hello there, iv found a bug in bot in their betting multiplie system about payout structure in small betting amounts, or idk, this bug is on two different sites. (maybe its global payout bug?!)
with who i need to talk about that?!

Post the details of the bug here or submit it to https://bot.seuntjie.com/bugreport.aspx



idk if u will see image in good quality to see that...

btw, it happens every 1-3minutes allday long to me.

simple story, if u bet 1 on 5% chance to get 19(+18) all is fine, but when u bet 1,1 or 1,4 or 1,7 or 1,9 or 2,1 or 2,9 etc... you will get smaller payout than u made 1 bet! (1 = 0.00000001)

like sample - bet 1 > get 18, but when bet 1,XX > get 17.XX (5% chance - x19.84 payout)

system dsn;t like small decimals, or what?!
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500


I tried to login into dicebot through api from yolodice. But i can't login into your dicebot. while i tried to login in to other sites through dicebot then I had no problem. Also I gave my api to my friend and asked him to login through it. He was sucessfully able to login into my account through that api. So why can't i login into dicebot through api? Guide me a bit.

Does it say anything at the bottom of the bot in the status bar?

What number format is your machine using?
What version of windows are you using?
Have you tried running the bot as administrator? (unlikely but might be a firewall or port binding issue)
Are you running the latest version of the bot? (3.3.5 at time of writing)

Yes i am using latest version of Dicebot. I am using windows 7 32 bit version. I am running it as administrator.
Here is a screenshot of dicebot http://prntscr.com/g1ak7e.
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