Topic: shame on the stake (Read 1088 times)

Quote from: wxa7115 on March 18, 2023, 11:23:02 PM

I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and this moment you can get problem due to your internet connection. Anyway there are different reasons of such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

From several different opinions, I have an opinion that might break a little between these two different opinions.
This can all happen because of a slow internet connection that interferes with the connection to the casino.
So when there is a score change in a certain match but the connection is very slow, it will also affect the casino view that the OP should be able to cashout before the score changes but because of the interrupted internet connection it is too late to press the cashout button.
So it's just a matter of the internet connection to the casino site being interrupted due to network delays.

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

The mistake of the OP was to make bets that are so time sensitive and somehow expect that everything is going to be fine all the time.

Basically they are complaining about a 7 second delay on a sport match in which the score can move really quickly, and the terms about how to settle this bet were very clear on the TOS of stake, and while I can understand why they are mad there is nothing to do as every single website experiments delays once in a while, and if they do not want to experiment this again then they need to stop making such bets.

If we want to read some of the replies from the previous thread there is someone who said that this is not the fault of the OP or the casino, because in sports betting there is a time difference of a few seconds or a few minutes in live matches with betting platforms.
So that is also one of the problem factors that the OP experienced when placing a bet that was delayed or rejected because the score changed.
I myself have also experienced such an incident in esport betting, for me it was just an error in the time difference between the live match and the time on the platform.

All these are attributes of gambling or betting. OP should have known all these which I believe he is not new into the system from the way he sounds. Actually you made a point about the time difference because maybe the time varies when the bet was placed and when the event took place there might just be a slight time gap and couple together with network glitch which resulted to OP challenge in the betting to Cash out immediately. These are amongst the common occurrences in such game neither the casino or op are to blame. If there was no network errors, OP would have cashed out his or her wins but from OP explanation, there was a kind of loading delay which directly points to the network actions that made OP not to cash out on time.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on March 18, 2023, 11:23:02 PM

I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and this moment you can get problem due to your internet connection. Anyway there are different reasons of such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

From several different opinions, I have an opinion that might break a little between these two different opinions.
This can all happen because of a slow internet connection that interferes with the connection to the casino.
So when there is a score change in a certain match but the connection is very slow, it will also affect the casino view that the OP should be able to cashout before the score changes but because of the interrupted internet connection it is too late to press the cashout button.
So it's just a matter of the internet connection to the casino site being interrupted due to network delays.

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

The mistake of the OP was to make bets that are so time sensitive and somehow expect that everything is going to be fine all the time.

Basically they are complaining about a 7 second delay on a sport match in which the score can move really quickly, and the terms about how to settle this bet were very clear on the TOS of stake, and while I can understand why they are mad there is nothing to do as every single website experiments delays once in a while, and if they do not want to experiment this again then they need to stop making such bets.

If we want to read some of the replies from the previous thread there is someone who said that this is not the fault of the OP or the casino, because in sports betting there is a time difference of a few seconds or a few minutes in live matches with betting platforms.
So that is also one of the problem factors that the OP experienced when placing a bet that was delayed or rejected because the score changed.
I myself have also experienced such an incident in esport betting, for me it was just an error in the time difference between the live match and the time on the platform.

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Quote from: slapper on March 19, 2023, 01:01:48 AM

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

The mistake of the OP was to make bets that are so time sensitive and somehow expect that everything is going to be fine all the time.

Basically they are complaining about a 7 second delay on a sport match in which the score can move really quickly, and the terms about how to settle this bet were very clear on the TOS of stake, and while I can understand why they are mad there is nothing to do as every single website experiments delays once in a while, and if they do not want to experiment this again then they need to stop making such bets.

The main mistake of the OP is creating this thread i think. Everybody understand that it isn`t the Stake problem except the OP. I can understand him - nobody likes to lose money, but it is the part of the gambling. And if we make risky bets we must be ready that we will lose sometimes. And nobody must response for such loses except the gambler.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 11:38:13 AM

Quote from: traderethereum on March 17, 2023, 03:30:48 AM

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The OP himself only gave a statement about the problem he was experiencing or in short it was just a story. He did not provide details and evidence stating that the error actually occurred from Stake so that I or some people might not be able to believe what the OP had said.
Regarding the problem when failing to withdraw money in a bet with the aim of taking profit, it is not the fault of the Stake, but the gambler who is less adept at making withdrawals. We can also see in some feedback regarding cases like this and the main mistake of gamblers is that they don't want to refresh on the betting page to be able to get updates on the betting page.
So that we cannot completely blame the gambling platform that we use.

Firstly, let me say that I completely agree with your point about the importance of providing evidence before we can believe in someone's story. Without evidence, we have no way of determining whether the story is true or not. Now, moving on to the main issue at hand - withdrawing money in betting. I couldn't agree with you more! In my opinion, one of the biggest mistakes that gamblers make is not keeping themselves up to date with the latest information. They don't refresh their pages or keep track of their bets, and then they wonder why they're not making any profits!

But i must say that this is a serious problem with these Newbies who come, say bad words about the casino, don't give enough evidence and never ever come back again to the forum to defend their point of view. I have seen this happening many times before and in this case also where the OP made this post on February 28, 2023 and he never logged back in to see any update on this case.

These things give me a clue that all these claims are fake and are done to ruin the reputation of the established casinos.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 18, 2023, 11:38:13 AM

Quote from: traderethereum on March 17, 2023, 03:30:48 AM

~snip~

The OP himself only gave a statement about the problem he was experiencing or in short it was just a story. He did not provide details and evidence stating that the error actually occurred from Stake so that I or some people might not be able to believe what the OP had said.
Regarding the problem when failing to withdraw money in a bet with the aim of taking profit, it is not the fault of the Stake, but the gambler who is less adept at making withdrawals. We can also see in some feedback regarding cases like this and the main mistake of gamblers is that they don't want to refresh on the betting page to be able to get updates on the betting page.
So that we cannot completely blame the gambling platform that we use.

Firstly, let me say that I completely agree with your point about the importance of providing evidence before we can believe in someone's story. Without evidence, we have no way of determining whether the story is true or not. Now, moving on to the main issue at hand - withdrawing money in betting. I couldn't agree with you more! In my opinion, one of the biggest mistakes that gamblers make is not keeping themselves up to date with the latest information. They don't refresh their pages or keep track of their bets, and then they wonder why they're not making any profits!

Let us not hastily pass judgement, shall we? Despite our common humanity, errors inevitably occur as part and parcel of our being. I firmly believe that our missteps are opportunities to become more refined individuals. Let's own up to our deeds and keep ourselves from blaming others for our inadequacies. To round off, I concur with your argument that our slips-ups should not be solely attributed to the gambling arena. Let's endeavor to be more perceptive and conscientious gamblers!

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on March 18, 2023, 05:26:19 AM

I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and this moment you can get problem due to your internet connection. Anyway there are different reasons of such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

From several different opinions, I have an opinion that might break a little between these two different opinions.
This can all happen because of a slow internet connection that interferes with the connection to the casino.
So when there is a score change in a certain match but the connection is very slow, it will also affect the casino view that the OP should be able to cashout before the score changes but because of the interrupted internet connection it is too late to press the cashout button.
So it's just a matter of the internet connection to the casino site being interrupted due to network delays.

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

The mistake of the OP was to make bets that are so time sensitive and somehow expect that everything is going to be fine all the time.

Basically they are complaining about a 7 second delay on a sport match in which the score can move really quickly, and the terms about how to settle this bet were very clear on the TOS of stake, and while I can understand why they are mad there is nothing to do as every single website experiments delays once in a while, and if they do not want to experiment this again then they need to stop making such bets.

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In this case I don't want to blame anyone because processing around 7 seconds can be said to be normal and even tends to be fast actually if you look at the conditions.
But on the other hand, you are also making a bet that is clearly risky in this case, because betting on tennis in conditions that are certain to be fast is clearly a risk, so you also have to be aware that conditions like this are possible to occur due to the question of processing time, I think it is clear that it is not will be ignored of course.

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At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

- That's the problem with OP, he didn't really clarify what the stakes did to him because we know that the reputation that has been built here in the forum is good and there are many communities that support it.

Let's also remember that if we experience defeat, we should not pass on the mistake to others as we know that we are at fault and not stakes.

I think that all of us understand it but such threads create some problem to the stake. It isn`t the scam occasion thread but it is one more thread that newbies can read. And such new members often don`t search for information correctly. They just open 2-3 links and make a decision. Due to such threads it can be a wrong decision.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on March 18, 2023, 05:26:19 AM

That is the reason why the terms and conditions of some casinos contained a column that states that the casino has the right to remove cash out or refuse to pay cash out, and with that rule, casinos can easily deny players cash out which in some case is not fair to the player.

-Ops should just make changes as regards timing and have quicker decision-making because if he hard clicks the cash out earlier, he would have not faced this issue.

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Quote from: traderethereum on March 17, 2023, 03:30:48 AM

I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and this moment you can get problem due to your internet connection. Anyway there are different reasons of such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

From several different opinions, I have an opinion that might break a little between these two different opinions.
This can all happen because of a slow internet connection that interferes with the connection to the casino.
So when there is a score change in a certain match but the connection is very slow, it will also affect the casino view that the OP should be able to cashout before the score changes but because of the interrupted internet connection it is too late to press the cashout button.
So it's just a matter of the internet connection to the casino site being interrupted due to network delays.

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

- That's the problem with OP, he didn't really clarify what the stakes did to him because we know that the reputation that has been built here in the forum is good and there are many communities that support it.

Let's also remember that if we experience defeat, we should not pass on the mistake to others as we know that we are at fault and not stakes.

Well, I blame the OP for not being elaborate about the claim, though on second thought, I don't think there is anything else for him to express as the gist has been made. And this is either a technical error on either part or a program that has been wired in favour of Stakes, no one should trust casinos 100%.

Mind you, no one is passing judgment on anyone, it's not a crime to express your dissatisfaction with what you experienced, which is what the OP did.

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Quote from: tusandii on March 17, 2023, 02:50:58 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on March 13, 2023, 11:47:08 AM

Quote from: tusandii on March 13, 2023, 09:42:15 AM

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It's simple if the issue lingers on for long unresolved then it means the stake has done their part and ops is left to take responsibility for his actions, if that is the case, I will suggest to ops to just move on since the faults were largely from him and not stake.

If the problem or case that the OP is accusing does really happen, I'm sure it won't last long because the Stake.com support team will definitely solve the problem soon.
I know very well the performance of the Stake.com support team so there's no way they would let the problem persist.
But until now, to be honest, I still can't believe what the OP has said.

We don't know the real problem faced by @OP and only see it from the story's point of view.
But if I look at the story, I think it often happens when we can't withdraw money before or in the middle of a match.
I had this before and suddenly, the withdraw button would not click and I realized that I should have pressed the button sooner to withdraw the money.
Maybe @OP needs to keep an eye on the betting so he's not too late to hit the draw button and take his winnings.
And I think Stake.com will help if the problem is indeed their fault.

The OP himself only gave a statement about the problem he was experiencing or in short it was just a story. He did not provide details and evidence stating that the error actually occurred from Stake so that I or some people might not be able to believe what the OP had said.
Regarding the problem when failing to withdraw money in a bet with the aim of taking profit, it is not the fault of the Stake, but the gambler who is less adept at making withdrawals. We can also see in some feedback regarding cases like this and the main mistake of gamblers is that they don't want to refresh on the betting page to be able to get updates on the betting page.
So that we cannot completely blame the gambling platform that we use.

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I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and this moment you can get problem due to your internet connection. Anyway there are different reasons of such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

From several different opinions, I have an opinion that might break a little between these two different opinions.
This can all happen because of a slow internet connection that interferes with the connection to the casino.
So when there is a score change in a certain match but the connection is very slow, it will also affect the casino view that the OP should be able to cashout before the score changes but because of the interrupted internet connection it is too late to press the cashout button.
So it's just a matter of the internet connection to the casino site being interrupted due to network delays.

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

- That's the problem with OP, he didn't really clarify what the stakes did to him because we know that the reputation that has been built here in the forum is good and there are many communities that support it.

Let's also remember that if we experience defeat, we should not pass on the mistake to others as we know that we are at fault and not stakes.

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I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and this moment you can get problem due to your internet connection. Anyway there are different reasons of such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

From several different opinions, I have an opinion that might break a little between these two different opinions.
This can all happen because of a slow internet connection that interferes with the connection to the casino.
So when there is a score change in a certain match but the connection is very slow, it will also affect the casino view that the OP should be able to cashout before the score changes but because of the interrupted internet connection it is too late to press the cashout button.
So it's just a matter of the internet connection to the casino site being interrupted due to network delays.

At least it is one of the possible situations but the OP decided that the Stake is cheating. In this thread we saw several moments that can become a problem except the stake and the most of them is the OP problem, so i don`t have an idea what the OP wants. He made a mistake, he lost money, but it is only his mistake and his problem.

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I don`t sure that it was such situation. It is possible but the same time there are moments when the bookie make some changes and at this moment you can get a problem due to your internet connection. Anyway, there are different reasons for such situations and most time it isn`t the bookie`s problem. And the OP even doesn`t think about it.

If I am ops I will just let go of the cash out as long as I know I decided at the dying minutes to the end of the games, the book marker has every right to remove the cash out since there is no parameter used in calculating the cash out amount.

-cash out is just an option that is brought out frequently to tempt the gambler and it can be taken off at any time, so the best thing to do is not to get too greedy and once the cash-out amount is ok we should not waste much time before we accept it.

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