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Mining is very simple.
If you can't understand how it works - well that's your problem.

You think you will find some loophole in the design, alas you wont.
The loopholes are quite straight forward: removing unneeded steps of the hashing and reusing steps of the hashing.
Find a different one of them to make it a little bit faster - have fun.
(As I've mentioned before, you'll find I found one once and posted about it here on the forum, fun fact it was already in use )

Edit: I'll add some little fun info that you may or may not have noticed
Firstly, as we all know, it's 3 hashes. One for the midstate, then one to complete the 1st hash with the remaining data+nonce, then one more to complete the double hash.
That second hash is full of zeros. Woo

The last hash ends with the well known early check of H=0 since the rest of A-G isn't required and on average H=0 is one in 2^32
I wonder what would happen if you reversed that hash and put say H=0 and G=0
Diff is high enough that G must always be zero for a block for a while now.

Though I'll also add another very relevant thing.
Someone may say "hey I can roll 6 dice and with the right setup in my hand I can almost always roll a 6 every time"
To which the reply is "doesn't matter how you setup the dice, you will 'almost' always roll a 6 coz stats says so "

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Saying you must mine scamcoins or die is rather an amusing excuse to be involved in those scams - which are also off topic for this area of the forum.

You probably should have read the rules for this part of the forum at least once.

Not sure if it's an English understanding issue or not but it's quite clearly posted.

BITCOIN MINING INTRO & RULES OF THIS SUBFORUM - READ BEFORE POSTING
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-mining-intro-rules-of-this-subforum-read-before-posting-2415854

So apparently you know more than everyone in btc which currently has a market cap of 445 billion USD at the time of writing this.  So that you can find ways that nobody else has and you plan on finding these secrets of bitcoin.  Trust me there are people a LOT more intelligent than you developing the ASIC's, software, etc themselves for large companies such as Bitmain, Canaan, etc.  You would think if there were these special secrets still out there that they would have found this YEARS ago...  You act like btc hasn't been worth anything until recently which is funny to me calling everyone old timers that got out of it.  Even in 6-7 months in 2014 I made a VERY nice amount myself on btcguild with a maximum of 19 TH/s (103-105btc from mining alone...). 

Also if the Cgminer code base is so bad then why is it still used by so many?  I've used it since 2014 myself as I preferred it over Bfgminer.  If you understood how GPL licensing works you would understand the frustration people like Kano have with some of the manufactures that use the basis of code by him and CK and keep it closed source to hide said information.

The other ignorance I see from many people when they sit there and trash on Kano's pool, do you realize how much of a greater chance there is for a pool to have a solved block by a solo miner when CK's pool has around 25PH/s on solo and Kano (where I do have my sticks and r909s) which has a little more than 1.5PH/s.  Meanwhile the entire BTC networks hashrate is 276 EH/s so yeah solo mining a block or even a PPLNS pool has a LOT less of a chance.  It's funny when I mined during 2014 the network hashrate was only 80-110PH/s and back then unless you were someone like KNC, Bitmain, etc. you were NOT solo mining because finding a block was basically impossible.

The other thing I have noticed is that people do call you out on is that your closed source part of the pool software because for all people know you could set payouts to yourself and it continue that way with your "promise to pay it out".  You can trick some but the whole idea of bitcoin maximalist is just trying to get people new and uneducated to jump in and would never know if they got ripped off.  To make money in btc it takes money and lots of it...  To make close to a btc a day like I was doing in 2014 I figured the cost alone without factoring in cost alone to run the amount of power I would need it was getting close to a million alone. 

To be Clear. This pool is 100% Pro Bitcoin pool and aims to serve Bitcoin miners FIRST and foremost.

People like you dilute the word scam by throwing it around so casually. Bitcoin cash no matter my feeling about how it or how  came to be or created is irrelevant. My personal feelings about the coin is also of little importance. What is important is. It’s block reward represents $882 + fees of funding that can help many bitcoin maxamilist miners weather tough financial waters. Help them feed their families and keep the light’s on tell they can solve Bitcoin Blocks. You fancy yourself an intelligent person? Why do you sound so dull witted with most of your post here?

An example:
If a coin  called say “Kanos Pool Can’t Solve A Block” Coin abbreviation KPCSAB and it could be auxMerged mined efficiently  at a rate of $882 per block reward. No matter the silly name and who created it. Still represents a function to serve Bitcoin miners offset operational cost. Bitcoin Cash is here to stay. It is a viable source of funding to offset Bitcoin Miners overhead cost. 

Whats even cooler. If you hate Bitcoin Cash so much mine the dang block and dump it on the market. Just don’t leave money on the table over some misplaced “Bitcoin Maxi high-ground”. Emotions have no place at the table of financial decision making.  Your really showing them by NOT mining the low hanging fruit!! NO your just making yourself a little poorer for every block you do NOT mine. Do you dislike Bitcoin Cash? Ok mine it DUMP it. Pay your electric bill that mines the TRUE Bitcoin. It’s not rocket science.

Now let’s address more of your nonsense…
“Be aware that mining 2 coins detracts from mining one coin. “
“Also as clearly stated in the cgminer README (that most miners use) mining two coins on the same connection is problematic. “

Completely FALSE statement . Might be true when using decades old codebase like cgminer. Might be true when you have a CAN’T do attitude.  We are building shhpool from scratch along with a dynamic mining software capable of handling efficient and game changing Auxpow Merge Mining.  It is so funny how you relics of a long ago bitcoin past keep claiming things are impossible cause YOU could not do it. Your just so scared that when we succeed the world would know what frauds you are and fore pushing your “point of view” for over a decade.  Standing on this platform of “I know everything”. When the facts remain you speak in absolutes.

  A person who speaks in absolutes is asking to be proven wrong and rendered a simpleton. Means a person who leaves the door closed to the possible will never be able to achieve the impossible.  You continually speak in absolutes. Take what you want from that .
You keep coming to my thread here and spouting off bullshit. It is really hard to take you seriously as a pool OP when you have failed to solve a bitcoin block in years. Not just that . Your only function in the bitcoin community seems to be to stir controversy and bully people on this forum. You fancy yourself a developer but your function seems to be a party clown.  What legacy you have left it just be tarnished by your silly little antics to constantly try  to prove your intellect. A smart person never has to say how smart they are or put other people down.  THEY  just are smart and everyone knows it. Take what you want from that statement.

Your biggest line of bullshit is this..
“You can't make your miners find a block, it's purely random, you literally had nothing to do with finding that block except that one of your miners rolled the right number of zero bits. “
This is the statement that really chaps my cheeks. Its just a lazy way of thinking. “probably why Kano has yet to solve a block in years” You can not force a bitcoin block to be solved by your miners CORRECT. You can however innovate new ways to improve their odds instead of waiting around for something to happen.  Bitcoin mining still has secrets to be unlocked. Thankfully for me most of you early-birds gave up along time ago to actually be innovative. You listen to that little voice in your heads that said “not possible” and fed that narrative to the bitcoin community and it has remand unchallenged to this day by you bulling people into being quite.

Be aware that mining 2 coins detracts from mining one coin.
Simple stats: if you spend half your time mining BTC then you have half the chance of finding a BTC block.

This pool is not pro BTC, it's also mining scamcoins.
Aside: scamcoin mining is off topic for this part of the forum.
It also supports that scamcoin, so no idea why the OP is making claims about being pro BTC but getting the miners to also mine scamcoins.

Also as clearly stated in the cgminer README (that most miners use) mining two coins on the same connection is problematic.

I will add that the reason I have for not promoting giving someone a bonus for finding a block on pooled mining is simple.
The majority of miners, who don't find a block, lose out.
You can't make your miners find a block, it's purely random, you literally had nothing to do with finding that block except that one of your miners rolled the right number of zero bits.
So small miners who mostly wont find a block, will be expected here to get half the BTC reward of mining on a pool that doesn't do that.

Thank you so much for the kind words. Means more than you will ever know. My heart and soul is in this venture. I truly want all shhpool miners to succeed.  If shhpool miners  succeed. So do I.

I don't really know what to think about this topic.

On the one hand, nobody can officially say that Pool's OP will pay the blocks, and considering the amounts I understand that some are in doubt.
But for my part, I want to specify that I participated in a small scale to mine the testnet blocks of the pool. OP has of course paid me for them.

I'm willing to take the risk with some BCH blocks, this pool is the only one to offer this payment scheme.
It's really interesting a 50/50 for the block solver and the other pool members. If the pool stays small enough it will be profitable for small miners.

OP seems sincere to me, he may make some technical mistakes but he has the merit to try new things.
I'm glad to see someone finally proposing something different and possibly very smart if it works

Agreed. I am a second generation Bitcoin miner. My father was one of the first people to mine Bitcoin. My reasons are very close to my heart. Funny story but one of my most treasured memories of my father was. He would wear pink noise canceling headphones while in his workshop. Once he noticed the headphones made me laugh . He would dance around all silly to the roar of Bitcoin miners. In his workshop he had walls of GPU’s I was speaking more from a miners point of view. Most would like to see their hashpower actually ROI.

Update:

We are trying to put together a block run for shhpool. Anyone with experience in organizing block runs please DM me here or in Discord. If you help in organizing the run. I will give you my 3% OP fee from each block that is solved during the run. My only goal is to get as many blocks signed and get shhpool miners paid.

Well - Bitcoin for me personally was not just about getting more money than I spent on it… it is more about the principal for me - a censorship resistant means to financial sovereignty, which is more important than maximum profitability. With regard to Smart Mining on ViaBTC - it is NOT merged mining, it allows you to use auto profit switching where the poll will stop mining one and start mining the other if one of them spikes in value / mining difficulty, rendering it substantially more or less profitable than the other. NMC / SYS is legitimate merged mining where you’re accumulating all of the above at the same time.

It's worth mentioning that since BCH is a fork of BTC, the merged-minable coins can also do with BCH just like BTC, you can merge mine namecoin or sys with BCH, namecoin with BTC, but not BCH with BTC using the same "hash".


Actually many modern pools already do that, I know Viabtc does it, Binance does it, those two "I have tried", and I am sure most of them will do the same, they call it"smart mining", you would have to use a specific port/URL for that, and they will do the "profit switching" on their pool, for Viabtc you can actually watch the hashrate chart and see different lines each has it's own color and represents what SHA256 coins you mined.

I did not use "smart mining" long enough to judge its profitability in comparison to mining just BTC, I didn't pull the numbers and made the required steps to get to an accurate answer, but I can say with a rough estimate that it had become pretty useless in the past couple of years. When Viabtc first deployed it, it made a lot of sense, a coin jumps in price, your hash goes there, Viabtc gets that coin, exchanges it for you to BTC, and you get more BTC than having mined BTC directly, but now that many people use it, it got saturated, the profiblabity across all SHA256 coins reach to equilibrium very fast, so fast that hardly anyone is benefiting from it.

The last I will add here is that this really belongs in the more general Development & Technical Discussion area - not here. At least there you would not be multiposting to yourself and may even get someone else interested in it.

What you are trying to do is *not* merged mining. Merged mining is coins that are recorded as part of the main chain, eg namecoin information is recorded as part of the BTC blockchain. As others have said elsewhere that information is stored in the blocks' Coinbase header.

BCH is not part of the BTC chain. Bitmain & their cohorts created it as an independent fork that branched off of the BTC chain. Once they forked then the BTC & BCH blocks began following their own chains with neither having anything to do with the other.

What you are doing is essentially running 2 different pool nodes - one for BTC and one for BCH - with miners connecting to a pool front-end that time-shares sending the miners work from the 2 pool nodes; sometimes the work is for a BTC block, sometimes it is for a BCH block. The miners would not see that happening because unlike other 'follow the profits' algo switching schemes, what you are doing does not force the miner to switch to a different pool. The miner only see the 1 connection to your pool and the work you are sending it. The only way a miner would know that the miner is working on a BCH block would be if the folks look at the miner GUI and take note of the diff being set by your pool or use software to monitor diff and report major changes in it.

This is actually or more accurate example but still just an example:

ShhPool is 100% a Bitcoin focused mining pool. Our primary goal is to mine Bitcoin blocks. That said with the state of Bitcoin difficulty and the fact. Vast amounts of bitcoin miners have become practically obsolete overnight. yes antminers s19 and so on.  A miner is in a difficult position. Some spend fortunes on these miners and are feeling hopeless.

 Most wont come out and say it but the facts remain desperate times come with desperate measure's.   My goal is to offset operational cost with auxpow merge mining of Bitcoin Cash while still going after the main goal. Bitcoin Block reward.  I am at heart a Bitcoin maximalist and dislike altcoins. At the same time. I wont leave money on the table, when so many miners are struggling to keep the lights on while trying to mine Bitcoin.

 In my opinion. I am helping other  Bitcoin maximalist miners not loose their homes and livelihoods due to being  “ Bitcoin maximalist”   . Paying $13-15,000 for an s19 bitcoin miner less than a year ago. That now sells for $800-1500. A lot of miners are in a bad way right now holding over priced paper weights.Thes miners need to stay/mining online for almost a decade to ROI. That is to break even. Not sure about any of you but not trying to do all that work to break even. The point of an investment is to make considerable profits, NOT to break even while doing an obscene amount of work. We are all in Bitcoin mining to make considerably more than we spent right? This is a very stressful time for some Bitcoin miners.

Am I doing all this out of the kindness of my heart? Partly, but NO. Like you. I want to get considerable more for my time/money”. I want to earn. Not scared to come out and say it. I want nice things. For me to make a fortune running a pool. I must make my miners wealthy. I must make my miners millionaires several times over for myself to reach a million.  If you do not trust me. Trust in mutual self interest. What is great for you is good for me. Join the pool or don’t. Life is about choices. Money is the measure of a persons life choices. If you have very little money. Might want to reevaluate your choices. If people want to stand on some moral high ground and leave money on the table “merge mining BCH”  that is their choice. I personally as a  “Bitcoin maximalist” WONT ignore the capitalist in me.

When peoples lights and utility bills are due and Bitcoin mining is literally taking you to the gates of  bankruptcy. Might want to curb your  Bitcoin maximalist high ground and do what is best for yourself and family.

Every second that electric meter is climbing, along with the Bitcoin difficulty. People will lose big without making some tough choices.

In that case this topic belongs in the Altcoins areas -- not here in the BITCOIN ONLY areas.
Just because is sometimes mines BTC does not get around the fact that it also focuses on mining crapcoins....

ShhPool is being rewritten from scratch currently and will NOT be opensource for awhile . One day when funding is no longer an issue. Then might release the source.

Pool is in maintenance mode in preparation for BCH testing.

Hi,

Where is the source code for shhpool? And is the operator fee preset somewhere in the code?

Yes , currently automatic payment in the block solved transaction is not enabled. If we do happen to solve a block. I will be manually paying it out. Right now the pool is under heavy development with the implementation of merge mining Bitcoin  and Bitcoin Cash together. Alot of reworking on the system is taking place. Right now we should consider the pool in main net beta testing still. Think we are running an average of 8-15 T/H right .At that hashrate we could solve one in 500 years. I have mentioned all this to the miners allocating hashpower currently. We talk on discord DM. Join us.. Think our little pool will have some very exciting development in the coming weeks. We have commercial type miners already wanting to take part in what is to come.


 Lucky we have some amazing miners willing to mine shhpool while we are working things out in preparation for merge mining.  Even then we might do manual  payments tell such a time we are comfortable with the payment system.  Every pool you mine on comes with TRUST. Any pool at anytime can change the source to pay themselves in the block solved transaction. My gut feeling is the first payout shhpool does will be a bunch of Bitcoin Cash but we are still focusing on the PRIZE. The Bitcoin block reward. In time as we enrich people with routine payouts and first ever merge mining functionality. Trust will be built. Right now if your uncomfortable with lending me some trust. ShhPool is not for you.

but coinbase tx of your pool speaks different language?

in case of block hit

3.0253307 BTC goes to address 12dQN2v382P8feWjnof61F5p35q5bSdgun

and

3.2774415800000001 BTC goes to address 12dQN2v382P8feWjnof61F5p35q5bSdgun

all reward goes to your address

After a great testnet run. We will be switching over to Bitcoin mainnet today. The shhpool operated flawlessly. We solved a bunch of testnet blocks. Thank you all for allocating hashpower to the testnet run. I know it is very hard to spend that electricity without much of an upside. We could not move forward without your contribution. Thank you again.

Today will be spent bringing shhpool to the mainnet and getting ready for Bitcoin Cash merge mining. Some user interface updates as well. Would like to have a more complete miners profile page. This way you as a miner have a better understanding of how your hardware is operating on shhpool. I would like to let the community know. This venture “shhpool” belongs to us all. I cannot succeed unless shhpool miners do. If you have feedback or want something changed. Please let me know. If you have a better methodology. I want to here it.

Some very big news. We  have officially started mining the Bitcoin  testnet with already 3 blocks solved . Thank you for everyone who is participating. If you ever wanted to get some Bitcoin  testnet coin . Now is your chance. We want to make sure everything is flawless before flipping the switch to mainnet. .


More exciting news. Some really big time miners have offered over 45-115 P/H a month toward ShhPool. This is very exciting. They had the great idea of merge mining Bitcoin  cash with Bitcoin . This would help everyone cover the cost of electric tell we hit Bitcoin  blocks. A lot of hashrate is actually wasted by NOT merge mining. With all that said. We will be launching merged mining for Bitcoin  cash by the end of this month. This can be very lucrative while at the same time going for the PRIZE. The Bitcoin  block reward.  The Bitcoin  Cash payouts will be structures exactly the same as Bitcoin  payouts percentages.

48.5% of the solved Bitcoin  reward goes to ShhPool miner who’s hardware solved the block.
48.5% of the remaining Bitcoin  block reward is equally split between all ShhPool miners that took part in  solved block.

3% goes to pool operator.

We also changed the password policy. ShhPool will be free for ANYONE to join. No bans or restrictions.

115 P/H should deliver us a Bitcoin  block reward within the next 30 days. https://solochance.com/ says we should hit it on or around 16 days but let’s give it 30 days . No pressure.

Thank you to everyone who has reached out with overwhelming support. Thank you all so very much.
 
Looking forward to solving blocks with you,
Kat

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A lot of you have no clue your actually merge mining other coins on some of these solo pools. Get paid and don’t go broke while gambling on solo bitcoin blocks. You could solo mine for forever on these solo pools without ever seeing nothing but wasted electric. Join shhpool and get paid out of every block we solve. Don't HOPE for the big payoff that might never come.

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Updated Main ANN:

and as always "We do NOT log our Miners IP addresses. Your privacy is paramount at ShhPool"

ShhPool is in TestNet mode in preparation for the 20 block push. Then flip the switch to mainnet if the TestNet 20 block push is a success with no payout issues.

lol - not sure how a post showing you don't know how pool mining works is gonna help encourage people to join your scam

Fun, fun, you clearly are the coding expert right?

Here, I'll give out your secret ... the miner most likely to get the next block ... has the highest hash rate on the pool.
Wow - that's incredible

Sledge0001  is a good person. I know that. I was lucky enough to share some time geeking out with him. The events that led to the fallout was pretty much my fear of being outside of my comfort zone.

Everything you have seen in the past couple of day is just two people being upset by our own perception of the failing out event. We are the hero’s of our own stories and your truth might be far different from my truth. I wont discount Sledge0001’s truth. I am sure he is hurt as am I. For that I am sorry. We both are not hateful people and not intentional trying to be mean to one another. We are people and have emotions. We are not our emotions we have been spilling the last couple days.

Sledge0001  is a great person with a big heart and truly feel wanted whats best for us both looking back. Think we both just got caught up in our own version of how things should play out. Communication breakdown could have something to do with it. I should have communicated better the reasons of my reluctance.  If a little more time was given to me to warm up to some concepts who knows what might have happened but I have no time machine. All I can do is keep moving forward the only way I feel led.

Once again you don’t take the time to actually read about the Algo. The algo works on hashrate allocation  from work share history per round. Not going to waste time on someone who wont take the time to READ. Not claiming to be able to predict blocks


Everyone is so tired of you Kano. Your rude and have some god like complex. This could be overlooked if you where actually talented but your not. Your code is heavy and clumsy. It’s decades old and outdated like yourself. The proof of this is defined by the facts your pool  has not solved blocks in ages. The only thing that was special about you is you happened to be in the right place in time and had  SOME coding skills. I can throw  rock in a freshman class at my college and hit 50 students that could outcode you in their sleep. You have been riding the coat tails of something you did a decade ago and moving about this forum like some celebrity .Being rude to people and talking down to pretty much everyone.


 Lets face it . You had a hand in CK pool design  but the real talent was Con Kolivas . This is shows in actual measurable numbers. Lets compare the amount of blocks Solo Ck has solved vs Kanopool . Money is the  measurable metric to defines a persons life choices. In this thought process. If you gonna stay as a pool OP . Might want to get your head out of your ass and start trying to innovate rather expect the same old what you been getting. Be nice to people ... Be innovate. Just stop the bullshit. What legacy you have left is being tarnished by your antics.

I am not here for your sympathy or you to be entertained by my life. My story has nothing to do with my capabilities. I shared a little about myself when first joining this forum. Looking back wish I would not have but thought that is what you do. You share a little about yourself.  Like said before. I do NOT want your admiration nor even your friendship. I do not want your vote of confidence .  I do however want your hashpower. Sit back and let me help you solve blocks with a few other like minded people who want to WIN. Lets keep our relationship transactional l  and business centered. You allocate hashpower ...I give you Bitcoin block rewards. Fair enough?  Keep the emotions out of it. In all actually you might as well throw out everything you think you know about me. I will redefine myself through my work and BLOCKS solved not my backstory.  

I liked the story of how he/she get into bitcoin. I was willing to help, but that is now over after such writing.
We have seen a lot of people who claimed the same (Fubly and so) and we KNOW it is not the truth!

Too bad that kitkatz and sledge0001 had a falling out.


We lost a small pool last month as a block was stolen from it.

Since I did a lot of background talks and pm's with sledge0001 and a little with kitkatz on a discord channel I was hoping to get on the  pool with them.

They had a fight / argument and split up.






I will say one thing if KitKatz has a method to non randomize btc mining that works the whole game will change.

For now at this moment I do not know of a way to do that. So I will watch and see how this works out.

My guess is not very positive.

At kano I tend to think you are pretty much correct that the op can not do what they say they can.

No it cant.
You are lying.
It's a scam.

Block finding is a random event.

Done wasting time with you. feel free to run your mouth. My energy will be spent on things that propel the pool forward.

Your one to talk about scams lol

Not gonna bad mouth you. Things did not work out. Doesn’t mean I dislike you. I did not like your ideas. I choose not to work with you because .I refused to use your servers.  Childish? Looks who is ranting and name calling bad mouthing lol. My ideas are mine. I had them way before you.

You wanted to split 1% of pool fee but do very little other than send hashpower. So you get the block reward and half of the 1% ? My time is  worth more than half of the 1% you offered me. Geeee thanks. Hard pass. 40 T/h wow really here is a screenshot of it running at 236214 T/h and at the time the sever only was at 80% cpu usage lol. Sense then the server has been upgraded.

 You just lied about a fact you yourself knew to be true. Don’t be salty. Who took this screen shot old friend? Exactly . Bottom line is . You demanded a lot and offered very little and that’s why I choose not to work with you. Please feel free to create your own pool .  Glad you went and publicly started throwing shade. I was actually missing chatting with you but now I am free of that. Why not spend your energy building YOUR pool and stop causing drama…. cause you cannot or would have to pay someone to build it. Maybe next time offer  the developer  more than half of 1%  Good luck old sport.   

Try reading. Algo can in fact take historic data from a pools submitted shares and to its best of ability to predict what miner will in fact be the strongest in that round. READ before you post. I knew you would be one of the first here throwing shade. Get back over to your pool. It needs work. How long has it been since solving a block? Seems like forever.

OK, so you are running a scam.

Bitcoin mining is a random event, you can't predict random events.

The Bans are simply to protect all ideas and concept we arrive at as a collective. We will be battling the top 10 mining companies to snag blocks. Imagine this. We come up with a really good strategy . Could be code based like the Algo I am developing called Piggy Back and PUNCH it. It is an algo on port 3002 that can predict with amazing accuracy what miners and their hardware is about to send the heights work/share per round.

 This algo sends all miners on 3002 to Piggy Back and Mine with that specific miner to ultimately try and punch through the next bitcoin block.  Lets say someone releases a part of that code and ends in the hands of one or more of the top 10 mining companies  that solve the vast majority of bitcoin blocks. Someone whoever leaked that just gave them more ways to deny smaller pools their share of bitcoin block rewards.   I will say we will be doing NOTHING shady or illegal. NOTHING illegal will ever be tolerated. NOTHING nefarious. We are going to try new things. We are going to innovate our way into solving bitcoin blocks. To do that we cannot give away our competitive edge to the same pools that day in and day out solve the vast majority of blocks.

If the Bans bother you. As we gain a good base of miners on ShhPool. We can redefine what information is allowed to make it beyond our private channels. This can be voted on by the majority of ShhMiner.  I hope you see why we need a NON-Disclosure agreement .Keep in mind it’s not like we are sending a document over FAX or email. lol  You agree by mining with us not to share our methods that will ultimately be used against us by the same pools that dominate bitcoin mining.

The payout system is very interesting but I don't feel confortable with the idea of the bans.