Should ActM shareholders try and get a lawsuit going?

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Quote from: Mabsark on January 10, 2014, 06:59:09 AM

Quote from: kslaughter on November 30, 2013, 01:44:33 PM

PROGRESS REPORT

As of November 30th 2013

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Shipping:

We have this last week shipped our first products to customers.

My theory is that ken shipped his prototype board. Thats why we dont get any earnings from that board anymore after he tested it. Then he could claim he shipped. Again its cheap rhetorics on his side that i really dislike and i hope he comes to mind. I dont wand to have the next "Duke Nukem Forever". (Google it when you dont see what i mean. Perfectionism...)

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Quote from: Vigil on January 09, 2014, 08:59:45 PM

Lets just get a group of people together who want their coin back and everyone else can just not have theirs. There may not be enough to pay everyone back but there may be enough to pay some of us back.

You believe that some would get paid because they sue and the rest gets nothing? Thats not how it works. If you sue all debts from ken come on the table. There is no "early advantage" for the first sueing. You would get the same per share like any shareholder.

Next thing... how will you prove you have shares?

And... only because people "believe" ken has stolen bitcoins or still have many bitcoins doesnt make it true. You hopefully realize that the IPO was in the height needed to create the chips and miners right? And you know eASIC is paid and and and. Im puzzled where you want to get the money from. Dont tell me from the preorders because im pretty sure customers come first to be refunded before anyone "owning" a part of the company/revenue. Shareholders are last in line. So what will you get out?

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Quote from: zumzero on January 10, 2014, 12:06:36 AM

Quote from: mannybitcoins on January 09, 2014, 11:08:59 PM

Quote from: zumzero on January 09, 2014, 10:56:48 PM

The only scam I see around here is the fact that a non shareholder with a personal vendetta is trying to stir up shit and cause trouble and given that half a dozen 'yes' votes are all from crumb's many faces and the rest are from ActM competitors and Asic Miner fan boys, what we have ladies and gentlemen is a nominee for the funniest bitcointalk thread of the year! Lol. Cheesy

Seriously guys, get real. 'Let's sue Ken, but hold on won't he spend our Bitcoins on paying his lawyer to defend himself?'. The first lawyers office you went into would laugh you out the building for Pete's sake. Total hysteria and frankly quite embarrassing. Kids, you can't sue a company because they informed you they are behind schedule and have experienced issues with a sub contractor and you are butt hurt because you can't cash in any bitcoins yet for some spendies now that Bitcoins are $1000 a pop. Life lesson 1: life can seem a bit unfair and the answer is seldom to sue.

So you have no problem with Ken lying to us for months?

I don't see what you do.

Then open your eyes.

Quote from: kslaughter on November 30, 2013, 01:44:33 PM

PROGRESS REPORT

As of November 30th 2013

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Shipping:

We have this last week shipped our first products to customers.

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Quote from: mannybitcoins on January 09, 2014, 11:08:59 PM

Quote from: zumzero on January 09, 2014, 10:56:48 PM

The only scam I see around here is the fact that a non shareholder with a personal vendetta is trying to stir up shit and cause trouble and given that half a dozen 'yes' votes are all from crumb's many faces and the rest are from ActM competitors and Asic Miner fan boys, what we have ladies and gentlemen is a nominee for the funniest bitcointalk thread of the year! Lol. Cheesy

Seriously guys, get real. 'Let's sue Ken, but hold on won't he spend our Bitcoins on paying his lawyer to defend himself?'. The first lawyers office you went into would laugh you out the building for Pete's sake. Total hysteria and frankly quite embarrassing. Kids, you can't sue a company because they informed you they are behind schedule and have experienced issues with a sub contractor and you are butt hurt because you can't cash in any bitcoins yet for some spendies now that Bitcoins are $1000 a pop. Life lesson 1: life can seem a bit unfair and the answer is seldom to sue.

So you have no problem with Ken lying to us for months?

I don't see what you do.

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Vigil, I like you. I really do. But don't go making accusations like that mate. You are completely incorrect and are out of order saying that. If you want to accuse me of having the ability to find the silver lining on every cloud then I plead guilty. I am just as disappointed as everyone else about not hashing yet and yesterday's setback is a killer for me because I really need some cash right now and was banking on being able to sell off a few shares. I'm in the shit financially because of this, but I lift my head and move on and find another way to deal with things. With respect, this negative sentiment started immediately after your theory of us hashing was disproven just over a week ago. You had lots of people genuinely convinced, myself included, that the Eligius 24th miners were ours. Ask yourself if yesterday's announcement would have had the same effect if shareholders hadn't gone through the roller coaster of your making one week before this shit storm. You are not to blame and are in no way responsible, I am merely pointing out that accusing me of being connected with ActM is as wrong as believing we were already hashing.

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I've had enough baseless claims without any supporting information for the night. Time to watch 'mah stories.'

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Quote from: mannybitcoins on January 09, 2014, 11:08:59 PM

Quote from: zumzero on January 09, 2014, 10:56:48 PM

The only scam I see around here is the fact that a non shareholder with a personal vendetta is trying to stir up shit and cause trouble and given that half a dozen 'yes' votes are all from crumb's many faces and the rest are from ActM competitors and Asic Miner fan boys, what we have ladies and gentlemen is a nominee for the funniest bitcointalk thread of the year! Lol. Cheesy

Seriously guys, get real. 'Let's sue Ken, but hold on won't he spend our Bitcoins on paying his lawyer to defend himself?'. The first lawyers office you went into would laugh you out the building for Pete's sake. Total hysteria and frankly quite embarrassing. Kids, you can't sue a company because they informed you they are behind schedule and have experienced issues with a sub contractor and you are butt hurt because you can't cash in any bitcoins yet for some spendies now that Bitcoins are $1000 a pop. Life lesson 1: life can seem a bit unfair and the answer is seldom to sue.

So you have no problem with Ken lying to us for months?

He doesn't because he works for ActM... his job is to come on here to pump ActM and criticize anyone who doubts ActM.

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Quote from: zumzero on January 09, 2014, 10:56:48 PM

The only scam I see around here is the fact that a non shareholder with a personal vendetta is trying to stir up shit and cause trouble and given that half a dozen 'yes' votes are all from crumb's many faces and the rest are from ActM competitors and Asic Miner fan boys, what we have ladies and gentlemen is a nominee for the funniest bitcointalk thread of the year! Lol. Cheesy

Seriously guys, get real. 'Let's sue Ken, but hold on won't he spend our Bitcoins on paying his lawyer to defend himself?'. The first lawyers office you went into would laugh you out the building for Pete's sake. Total hysteria and frankly quite embarrassing. Kids, you can't sue a company because they informed you they are behind schedule and have experienced issues with a sub contractor and you are butt hurt because you can't cash in any bitcoins yet for some spendies now that Bitcoins are $1000 a pop. Life lesson 1: life can seem a bit unfair and the answer is seldom to sue.

So you have no problem with Ken lying to us for months?

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The only scam I see around here is the fact that a non shareholder with a personal vendetta is trying to stir up shit and cause trouble and given that half a dozen 'yes' votes are all from crumb's many faces and the rest are from ActM competitors and Asic Miner fan boys, what we have ladies and gentlemen is a nominee for the funniest bitcointalk thread of the year! Lol. Cheesy

Seriously guys, get real. 'Let's sue Ken, but hold on won't he spend our Bitcoins on paying his lawyer to defend himself?'. The first lawyers office you went into would laugh you out the building for Pete's sake. Total hysteria and frankly quite embarrassing. Kids, you can't sue a company because they informed you they are behind schedule and have experienced issues with a sub contractor and you are butt hurt because you can't cash in any bitcoins yet for some spendies now that Bitcoins are $1000 a pop. Life lesson 1: life can seem a bit unfair and the answer is seldom to sue.

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Oh boy, a completely proofless claim by a random on a website that has the most ghostery blocked ad-connections that I've ever seen on a website (site literally crashed my firefox last time I went there with a script I could barely stop executing.) How the fuck can I explain that?

How do I know half the people posting here and saying yes, and calling for action, posting lawyers information (why don't you call them instead of passing the buck?) aren't shills for competitors? The claim saying funky was Gerald was hilarious. Thinking sarcasm is truth as a mistake is innocent enough. But knowing that it is sarcasm and making a claim that it is truth to attack someone's post validity is just insane.

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Quote from: zefyr0s on January 09, 2014, 10:36:22 PM

Quote from: kingcrimson on January 09, 2014, 06:19:28 PM

Exact same responses people gave during the Labcoin scam...'don't get authorities involved it'll just cause more trouble and we'll end up with nothing'. Turns out that delay cost everyone big time. Hope people learned something between then and now.... we need to pressure Active Mining until they give us real info, and don't take no for an answer.

Difference being of course, obvious for people that aren't comopletely inept at thinking, is that we know who is behind the show. You lot had no idea who was even behind labcoin for so long. You had inklings, but had never even seen the person connected to an actual identity. Honestly all VE's facebook digging did is cement the fact that you are dealing with a real person, with real connections that are able to be contacted. Not labcoin 2.0, at all.

care to explain this

Quote from: Vigil on January 09, 2014, 10:22:59 PM

Rip-off Report

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/virtual-mining-corp/springfield-missouri-65802/virtual-mining-corp-vmc-ripoff-by-virtual-mining-corp-vmc-bitcoin-mining-company-spring-1107833

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Quote from: kingcrimson on January 09, 2014, 06:19:28 PM

Exact same responses people gave during the Labcoin scam...'don't get authorities involved it'll just cause more trouble and we'll end up with nothing'. Turns out that delay cost everyone big time. Hope people learned something between then and now.... we need to pressure Active Mining until they give us real info, and don't take no for an answer.

Difference being of course, obvious for people that aren't completely inept at thinking, is that we know who is behind the show. You lot had no idea who was even behind labcoin for so long. You had inklings, but had never even seen the person connected to an actual identity. Honestly all VE's facebook digging did is cement the fact that you are dealing with a real person, with real connections that are able to be contacted. Not labcoin 2.0, at all.

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Quote from: thefunkybits on January 09, 2014, 10:27:14 PM

Ken was being tricky/smart with his words, he didn't say anything about shipping miners. So many assumptions are going on here and theres nothing you can legally do to Ken for keeping quiet about what's going on behind the scenes...

Are any of you "shareholders" living in the US? Again, I wish you goodluck

no point to argue with a narcissist person. You really think, taking close to 10M USD from people and not talking to them about what happened to their money and simply say NDA, the government will leave you alone?!?

go read this first,
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2013/comp-pr2013-132.pdf

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Ken was being tricky/smart with his words, he didn't say anything about shipping miners. So many assumptions are going on here and theres nothing you can legally do to Ken for keeping quiet about what's going on behind the scenes...

Are any of you "shareholders" living in the US? Again, I wish you goodluck

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Quote from: thefunkybits on January 09, 2014, 10:12:57 PM

Quote from: mannybitcoins on January 09, 2014, 10:06:44 PM

Not Gerald Slaughter, this is a troll.

Apparently Milky missed my rant last week bitching at Ken for more info

But honestly, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard - suing the company for having problems and delays? This is risky stuff, deal with it. Don't be mad because Ken didn't make you rich as quick as you would've liked.

it seems you are the idiot here, this is not a delay, Ken was straight up lying about progress and shipment of miners. Having delays/problems is very different from going back on your own words and keep blowing smoke up investors a$$

with that said, here is good start to put some pressure on Slaughter family to tell the truth to us investors of what happened exactly and why took him until this weeks to tells that we are basically at square one.

City of Springfield, MO
City Attorney

Civil Division
840 Boonville Avenue
Fifth Floor
Springfield, MO 65802
417.864.1645
email:[email protected]

Prosecutor's Division
625 North Benton Ave
Springfield, MO 65802
417.864.1892
417.864.2026 (fax)

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Quote from: mannybitcoins on January 09, 2014, 10:06:44 PM

Not Gerald Slaughter, this is a troll.

Apparently Milky missed my rant last week bitching at Ken for more info

But honestly, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard - suing the company for having problems and delays? This is risky stuff, deal with it. Don't be mad because Ken didn't make you rich as quick as you would've liked. As unhappy as I am with this company if shares were trading right now I would probably be buying more

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Quote from: MilkyLep on January 09, 2014, 09:58:28 PM

Quote from: thefunkybits on January 09, 2014, 09:12:01 PM

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Quote from: thefunkybits on August 26, 2013, 06:16:06 PM

Since this is the speculation thread, and things have been very boring as of late I would like to speculate on the share price of ACTIVEMINING if all goes well with eASIC and the avalon chips.

Lets set the date for Dec 31, 2013.

my realistic guesstimation on the price of one share of ACTM is .027

Feel free to chime in, Im curious to hear what numbers other (possibly smarter) investors have in their heads!

Is your name Gerald by any chance?

Yes my name is Gerald Slaughter. That prediction I made was based on everything being on schedule (obviously). But hey I wasnt wrong, there is no share price and none of you even have shares.

Goodluck idiots, you're only hurting yourselves here

Wow I knew it was going to get worse...

No wonder I had this dipshit on ignore, he fucking "works" for ActM/VMC.

Give me a break.

Edit: Since your prediction was "obvious" for everything being on schedule, do you mind enlightening everyone publicly why and when everything became off schedule?

Not Gerald Slaughter, this is a troll.

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Because me and family took a shit (literally) on all the equipment, its ruined now and we need to spend more of your money on rebuilding everything Sad

so sorry, we got pretty drunk this Christmas

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Quote from: thefunkybits on January 09, 2014, 09:12:01 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: thefunkybits on August 26, 2013, 06:16:06 PM

Since this is the speculation thread, and things have been very boring as of late I would like to speculate on the share price of ACTIVEMINING if all goes well with eASIC and the avalon chips.

Lets set the date for Dec 31, 2013.

my realistic guesstimation on the price of one share of ACTM is .027

Feel free to chime in, Im curious to hear what numbers other (possibly smarter) investors have in their heads!

Is your name Gerald by any chance?

Yes my name is Gerald Slaughter. That prediction I made was based on everything being on schedule (obviously). But hey I wasnt wrong, there is no share price and none of you even have shares.

Goodluck idiots, you're only hurting yourselves here

Wow I knew it was going to get worse...

No wonder I had this dipshit on ignore~~, he fucking "works" for ActM/VMC.~~

Give me a break.

~~Edit: Since your prediction was "obvious" for everything being on schedule, do you mind enlightening everyone publicly why and when everything became off schedule?~~

Trolls and shills everywhere....

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Quote from: Mabsark on January 09, 2014, 03:42:48 PM

Based on Ken's last update, ActM are months behind schedule for having working miners and by the time ActM do have miners they're going to be useless:

Do you even have shares? What a drama queen. A lot of whiney bitches that like to just cause drama on this board.

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