Should cats be culled to stop extinctions?

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Quote from: KingScorpio on April 02, 2019, 05:10:03 PM

Quote from: Crypto-DesignService on March 29, 2019, 02:56:31 AM

Recently there's news that concerns some of the people around the internet so I though if it is worthy to open up a discussion and share anyones opinion about it.
According to the news

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"Scientists are calling for a widespread cull of feral cats and dogs, pigs, goats, and rats and mice to save the endangered species they prey upon.

Their eradication on more than 100 islands could save some of the rarest animals on Earth, says an international team.

Islands have seen 75% of known bird, mammal, amphibian and reptile extinctions over the past 500 years.

Many of the losses are caused by animals introduced by humans.

Not naturally present on islands, they can threaten native wildlife."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47721807
https://www.smh.com.au/national/war-on-feral-cats-australia-aims-to-cull-2-million-20170214-gucp4o.html

From what I believe culling the animals will drastically drop the chance of said species to go extinct but it raises a question if it is a moral thing to do.
Neutering the animals is also a good thing because it lowers the birthrate but they are still capable of hunting endangered species around the island.

well that depends on point of view, some people want to have a more "catish" world

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Quote from: KingScorpio on April 02, 2019, 05:10:03 PM

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well that depends on point of view, some people want to have a more "catish" world

I have always wanted to barbecue penguins.

After all, they have invaded certain parts of the world, such that no other species hardly exist.

This is clearly not right. I would be doing my part to guard against this invasive species.

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^^^ What about SE Asians? Isn't it much better for these animals, to kill them before eating them?

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Quote from: Crypto-DesignService on March 29, 2019, 02:56:31 AM

From what I believe culling the animals will drastically drop the chance of said species to go extinct but it raises a question if it is a moral thing to do.
Neutering the animals is also a good thing because it lowers the birthrate but they are still capable of hunting endangered species around the island.

Since the human decided before that they wanted these kinds of animals, it was this choice to choose invasive animals rather than the others. What I mean about the "others" are the animals the human see before as useless. Since they were useless, they weren't chosen to be a possession of the humans. Ended up them being prey of the chosen and useful.

Now, we can see that the other animals the humans did not choose before is getting endangered and been the prey of what we chose.

Culling the animals we have chosen is somehow a good idea to stop them preying the endangered. However, for those who are a pro with this would have the struggle to convince the people who are very enthusiastic with their pets. They also deserve to live but what we do need to change here is the way they are kept and trained.

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Quote from: otrkid1970 on April 04, 2019, 10:22:59 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:28:58 PM

Cats make great target practice.

Stop wars. Shoot at cats.

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For this comment i give you this : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-the-wild-things-are/201302/do-mass-killers-start-out-harming-pets

Thank you for this. It shows why we have police and military. Starting with cats is better than Sandy Hook... which was faked, btw.

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Quote from: otrkid1970 on April 04, 2019, 10:22:59 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:28:58 PM

Cats make great target practice.

Stop wars. Shoot at cats.

Cool

For this comment i give you this : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-the-wild-things-are/201302/do-mass-killers-start-out-harming-pets

Actually, cats are the compulsive killers.

All they left of my pet white mouse was the tail...

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Quote from: BADecker on April 02, 2019, 03:28:58 PM

Cats make great target practice.

Stop wars. Shoot at cats.

Cool

For this comment i give you this : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-the-wild-things-are/201302/do-mass-killers-start-out-harming-pets

BADecker

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^^^ The system balances itself. If you cut your finger (system imbalance) it heals (system re-balance).

If cats overrun an area, when they kill off most of the game that they can eat, they will starve. Then the little bit of game that is left will flourish. Then the cats will repopulate, and the whole thing will start oveer.

If the cats are harming humans, they will die at the hands of humans. That's all that this whole thread is all about... balance.

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It's all about having a balanced system. Now why do only human beings are capable of extracting animals?

The fcvking truth is that it is not the animals who brought up the problems it is us humans, humans have been killing animals as long as we wanted to and we are also being overpopulated as of the moment as our population grows the resources is also getting thinner.

Therefore there is no point in extracting animals that are being cultured by us humans. Why? because it is obviously a collective efforts from individuals to be responsible of saving this planet that includes the endangered animals and guess what it is impossible to do it.

Every countries values different kind of animals differently as well. So you can't just expect them to follow. If you are in China then it is pretty normal to kill and pouched dogs but in other places you can't simply do it. You might get to jail.

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Quote from: Badman-Crypto on April 02, 2019, 05:07:05 PM

Cats and dogs are awesome and make great pets but feral animals aren't pets, and the should not be in the environment they are in. If they could be captured and adopted as pets, great... but that isn't really a comprehensive solution. Sad fact is, its either the feral cats and dogs, or the local wildlife. Which deserves to be there more?

We could always raise and hunt them for food, like they do in Southeast Asia.

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Quote from: Crypto-DesignService on March 29, 2019, 02:56:31 AM

Recently there's news that concerns some of the people around the internet so I though if it is worthy to open up a discussion and share anyones opinion about it.
According to the news

Quote

"Scientists are calling for a widespread cull of feral cats and dogs, pigs, goats, and rats and mice to save the endangered species they prey upon.

Their eradication on more than 100 islands could save some of the rarest animals on Earth, says an international team.

Islands have seen 75% of known bird, mammal, amphibian and reptile extinctions over the past 500 years.

Many of the losses are caused by animals introduced by humans.

Not naturally present on islands, they can threaten native wildlife."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47721807
https://www.smh.com.au/national/war-on-feral-cats-australia-aims-to-cull-2-million-20170214-gucp4o.html

From what I believe culling the animals will drastically drop the chance of said species to go extinct but it raises a question if it is a moral thing to do.
Neutering the animals is also a good thing because it lowers the birthrate but they are still capable of hunting endangered species around the island.

well that depends on point of view, some people want to have a more "catish" world

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Cats and dogs are awesome and make great pets but feral animals aren't pets, and the should not be in the environment they are in. If they could be captured and adopted as pets, great... but that isn't really a comprehensive solution. Sad fact is, its either the feral cats and dogs, or the local wildlife. Which deserves to be there more?

BADecker

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Cats make great target practice.

Stop wars. Shoot at cats.

Cool

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How many species have been extinct since probably a century ago? More than 90% of all the species that lived are already extinct. We can't save endangered species all the time and when the prey us killed by the hunter, it's nature doing it's job regardless if we put these cats on a certain island. Neutering them at this point i think is a little tio late if the population has boomed already.

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Quote from: Crypto-DesignService on March 29, 2019, 02:56:31 AM

Recently there's news that concerns some of the people around the internet so I though if it is worthy to open up a discussion and share anyones opinion about it.
According to the news

Quote

"Scientists are calling for a widespread cull of feral cats and dogs, pigs, goats, and rats and mice to save the endangered species they prey upon.

Their eradication on more than 100 islands could save some of the rarest animals on Earth, says an international team.

Islands have seen 75% of known bird, mammal, amphibian and reptile extinctions over the past 500 years.

Many of the losses are caused by animals introduced by humans.

Not naturally present on islands, they can threaten native wildlife."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-47721807
https://www.smh.com.au/national/war-on-feral-cats-australia-aims-to-cull-2-million-20170214-gucp4o.html

From what I believe culling the animals will drastically drop the chance of said species to go extinct but it raises a question if it is a moral thing to do.
Neutering the animals is also a good thing because it lowers the birthrate but they are still capable of hunting endangered species around the island.

That will not help to find solutions
It will lead to ecosystem imbalances
The type of animals will lead to animal diseases that feed on it
It is better to leave nature free

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Quote from: blockforge on March 29, 2019, 06:58:07 PM

Feral cats pose a big problem in certain areas, but its hard to say whether thats worse or whether it would be worse having a huge rat/mouse infestation. When I was in the military, our base was FILLED with feral cats. Used to annoy the hell out of me for some reason back then.

In most cases this is better for the reasons you stated (keeping rodents in check), but some of these islands have species of animals that do not exist elsewhere, or are extremely endangered.

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Feral cats pose a big problem in certain areas, but its hard to say whether thats worse or whether it would be worse having a huge rat/mouse infestation. When I was in the military, our base was FILLED with feral cats. Used to annoy the hell out of me for some reason back then.

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Quote from: Ojengonggu on March 29, 2019, 06:43:34 PM

The reason for the protection of rare animals is discussed with a detailed explanation of the effects of extinction and the important role of species in ecosystems but not by killing other animals of course we must have a wiser way to do that.
predators will continue to hunt prey this is a natural law

You aren't providing any solutions here, you are just saying you want to have it both ways.

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The reason for the protection of rare animals is discussed with a detailed explanation of the effects of extinction and the important role of species in ecosystems but not by killing other animals of course we must have a wiser way to do that.
predators will continue to hunt prey this is a natural law

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Moral according to who? Let me break it down here. Humans created this problem bringing invasive species to these places. You basically have two choices here. Either you can accept the obliteration of rare and endangered species by these invading species, or you can choose to eradicate them. The invasive species still live on, just not in this habitat. Some times life requires tough choices.

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