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December 25, 2017, 01:28:59 AM
#53
Do you honestly believe that European countries should pay reparations to African countries for the sins of Slavery ?

We shouldn't be living in thr past mistakes since it will further cause division among countries though it wouldn't hurt for rich countries in europe to extend assitance to the extremely empoverished african countries.
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December 25, 2017, 12:25:58 AM
#52
European merchants didn't catch slaves in jungle, they just bought them from african tribe chiefs.

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December 24, 2017, 11:01:39 PM
#51
Earlier, CNN released footage of a slave auction in Libya that has drawn much world criticism. Officials in Europe claim to have repeatedly warned of the dire circumstances at immigrant centers in Libya, including the occurrence of persecution and slavery.
In contrast to the call, critics say France has supported the overthrow of Moammar Khadafy in 2011, causing Libya to be filled with anarchy.

Slavery is wide-spread all over the Sub-Saharan African region and the Maghreb. It is not just confined to Libya. Slavery is thriving in countries such as Sudan and Chad. In Mauritania, an estimated 40% of the population is classified as slaves. Even in some of the former USSR nations and Asian countries, there are widespread instances of modern day slavery.
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December 24, 2017, 10:52:45 PM
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Earlier, CNN released footage of a slave auction in Libya that has drawn much world criticism. Officials in Europe claim to have repeatedly warned of the dire circumstances at immigrant centers in Libya, including the occurrence of persecution and slavery.
In contrast to the call, critics say France has supported the overthrow of Moammar Khadafy in 2011, causing Libya to be filled with anarchy.
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December 24, 2017, 10:47:27 PM
#49
Absolutely, God has been us a freedom and the right to live. African peoples are not a Toy or either pet, they have their own rights,Europe proves that there is a superiority of the color of the races.
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December 24, 2017, 10:01:02 PM
#48
Should Europe repay Africa for slavery?
No, not at all, lets not be so quick to judge, as history has a funny way of repeating itself. It would be better to educate them, than to just give away handouts. They wouldn't appreciate it, and it would be in vain! Instead, if you teach them, it will be the best gift you can give, especially as a reparation.
 Yeshua said, if you give a man a fish, he will only eat for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime! Im not a big fan of Christianity,  but those words are tried and true, and supercede any religion.
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December 24, 2017, 07:58:09 PM
#47
In my opinion the actuall problem is that the western world still buy resources very cheap like nestle bought some water reservoirs in africa and the people there die because they have no water... very low salarys and corrupt systems... so fix the modern slavery than we can talk about the past.
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December 24, 2017, 07:36:08 PM
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European merchants didn't catch slaves in jungle, they just bought them from african tribe chiefs.
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December 24, 2017, 05:47:04 PM
#45
Wouldnt make much sense for that.Africans enslaved among themslves too,will they sue each other too?
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December 24, 2017, 04:59:37 PM
#44
how have you guys managed to get from slavery to terrorists? might have gotten just a bit astray from the main subject...
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December 24, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
#43
I think you have misread my statement. I am not backing Islam terrorism. . there is no good terrorism or bad terrorism in the world. It is bad. It mist be wiped out. so is extremism. They all against the humanity. I mean Westerns and some powerful organization behind modern Islam terrorism. and in the past Christians also killed so many people. and they still kill. US and UK killed so many iraqi people. it is 4% of their country population. it is big , isn't it? They said Sadam got nuclear weopans. but they found nothing in the end. These are conspiracies, Even Americans questioning their leaders now. 

What you don't seem to understand is terrorism is a perspective. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Not all terror is the same either. The IRA when bombing England would ring ahead and tell everyone to get out of the building. The Muslim terrorists popping up lately have an obsession with beheading and throwing people off buildings. It leads back to their teaching, it is bullshit when people say "Islam is the religion of peace". It is a horrible religion and condones all sorts of gratuitous violence.

people may have different definitions in their perspectives. but you have to look at their behavior.  Do they really behave like liberal fighters /revolutionists ? or like real terrorists? don't mixed up revolutionist and terrorists together.  liberal fighters never kill innocent people. they don't release violence on un armed people. but terrorists do.
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December 24, 2017, 09:40:40 AM
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I think you have misread my statement. I am not backing Islam terrorism. . there is no good terrorism or bad terrorism in the world. It is bad. It mist be wiped out. so is extremism. They all against the humanity. I mean Westerns and some powerful organization behind modern Islam terrorism. and in the past Christians also killed so many people. and they still kill. US and UK killed so many iraqi people. it is 4% of their country population. it is big , isn't it? They said Sadam got nuclear weopans. but they found nothing in the end. These are conspiracies, Even Americans questioning their leaders now. 

What you don't seem to understand is terrorism is a perspective. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Not all terror is the same either. The IRA when bombing England would ring ahead and tell everyone to get out of the building. The Muslim terrorists popping up lately have an obsession with beheading and throwing people off buildings. It leads back to their teaching, it is bullshit when people say "Islam is the religion of peace". It is a horrible religion and condones all sorts of gratuitous violence.
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December 24, 2017, 09:38:58 AM
#41
Well if americans don't question their leader(s) then they have a bigger problem than the think.
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December 24, 2017, 09:19:36 AM
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Even so called 'actual Muslims' says the same. ''They are not real Islamic people., Islam is the religion of peace'' but they never come forward against terrorists   Cheesy  Christians have killed millions of people so far in the name of region. that amount cannot be compared with ISIS killings, In Medieval times: The Crusades were violent and led to atrocities by the modern world's standards under the banner of the cross and in the name of Christianity. But the Crusades were a counterattack on Islam. Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. All current western imperialist countries are Christian.

I will list here , similar teachings of Christinism to Quran later on. May be you don't know them.

I like how you seem to think if you pull a random number out of your butt it will just somehow sail through. The crusades over a thousand years ago resulted in roughly 200,000 deaths. Nice try spouting millions. The global population itself was only around 400 million people. Muslims have committed over 140,000 terrorist attacks just since 1970 across the globe, and that's not even counting stonings and just outright murder. Even if each only took 2 lives you've already surpassed 200,000. But we know they have taken dozens to thousands in scored of those attacks. This isn't even taking into account their crusade across the middle east under Mohammed.

Please just give up. You're making yourself look like a fool trying to make this laughable argument that christianity has somehow outpaced the destructive 'Religion of Peace' (<<<<

I think you have misread my statement. I am not backing Islam terrorism. . there is no good terrorism or bad terrorism in the world. It is bad. It mist be wiped out. so is extremism. They all against the humanity. I mean Westerns and some powerful organization behind modern Islam terrorism. and in the past Christians also killed so many people. and they still kill. US and UK killed so many iraqi people. it is 4% of their country population. it is big , isn't it? They said Sadam got nuclear weopans. but they found nothing in the end. These are conspiracies, Even Americans questioning their leaders now. 
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December 24, 2017, 08:34:20 AM
#39
I don't see the point to pay reparations for things that happened 2 centuries ago However, what I regret is that we don't (or barely not) speak about slavery in the history book, like it didn't happen.

Also, there are still slaves now in the world , we recently see it in Libia. So we should do something for that. But it's like no one cares , and we already stop speaking about it. Sad world
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December 24, 2017, 08:04:56 AM
#38
if europe should pay africa, how about germany paying the whole europe for all the tens of millions of people killed? seems only fair.
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December 24, 2017, 05:30:34 AM
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Even so called 'actual Muslims' says the same. ''They are not real Islamic people., Islam is the religion of peace'' but they never come forward against terrorists   Cheesy  Christians have killed millions of people so far in the name of region. that amount cannot be compared with ISIS killings, In Medieval times: The Crusades were violent and led to atrocities by the modern world's standards under the banner of the cross and in the name of Christianity. But the Crusades were a counterattack on Islam. Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. All current western imperialist countries are Christian.

I will list here , similar teachings of Christinism to Quran later on. May be you don't know them.

I like how you seem to think if you pull a random number out of your butt it will just somehow sail through. The crusades over a thousand years ago resulted in roughly 200,000 deaths. Nice try spouting millions. The global population itself was only around 400 million people. Muslims have committed over 140,000 terrorist attacks just since 1970 across the globe, and that's not even counting stonings and just outright murder. Even if each only took 2 lives you've already surpassed 200,000. But we know they have taken dozens to thousands in scored of those attacks. This isn't even taking into account their crusade across the middle east under Mohammed.

Please just give up. You're making yourself look like a fool trying to make this laughable argument that christianity has somehow outpaced the destructive 'Religion of Peace' (<<<<
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December 24, 2017, 03:25:13 AM
#36
Do you honestly believe that European countries should pay reparations to African countries for the sins of Slavery ?
I dont think so. Why do they have to pay for something that their ancestor have done? It is not fair for them to pay for something that happen before they were even born. I think we should just learn from the past and make sure that the bad thongs won't happen. The era before us was different and lets just keep it as it is.Continue to move forward anf live our life to the fullest. Worrying about this thing will just lead to cinflict.
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December 24, 2017, 02:58:37 AM
#35
Islamic teaching is barbaric. so the Christian in the past. But with the time They removed that barbaric teachings from Christinism according to the modern world. but Islamic people didn't , thats the difference. Otherwise both belongs to Ibrahim religions. Basic religious concept the same. If you go back to 70s,80s, Muslims were not this much aggressive or violent. some people used their religious fundamental to turn them barbarian to activate their hidden agenda. Now Muslims are nuisance for the  rest of world. whether you are not a part of hidden agendas, you can be a victim of them.

You're leaving out one crucial element to that which completely negates your entire argument. Christian scripture was completely opposed to what actual "christians" did. The scripture told them to do the exact opposite of what they did. It actually taught to love and forgive. Be kind to your enemies. If someone strikes you turn the other cheek. If people do not accept your teachings then turn around and leave them.

This is completely contrary to the teachings of Islam that actually tell muslims to kill the infidel, force their beliefs on others, kill those who turn from the teachings, allow them to use deception and even lie about their religion in countries that may be hostile to Islam etc.

So Christians in western societies imposed religion in their human judgement in order to impose "a civilized way of life" (which they learned eventually to be counter to it), not because scripture told them, and ended the subjagation a thousand years ago. Islam on the other hand actually tells muslims to commit these atrocities in the name of Allah. A thousand years later they are still stuck in mideival times.

THAT, is where your argument falls flat sir.

Even so called 'actual Muslims' says the same. ''They are not real Islamic people., Islam is the religion of peace'' but they never come forward against terrorists   Cheesy  Christians have killed millions of people so far in the name of region. that amount cannot be compared with ISIS killings, In Medieval times: The Crusades were violent and led to atrocities by the modern world's standards under the banner of the cross and in the name of Christianity. But the Crusades were a counterattack on Islam. Muslim invasions and atrocities against Christians were on the rise in the decades before the launch of the Crusades in 1096. All current western imperialist countries are Christian.

I will list here , similar teachings of Christinism to Quran later on. May be you don't know them.
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December 24, 2017, 02:14:30 AM
#34
Islamic teaching is barbaric. so the Christian in the past. But with the time They removed that barbaric teachings from Christinism according to the modern world. but Islamic people didn't , thats the difference. Otherwise both belongs to Ibrahim religions. Basic religious concept the same. If you go back to 70s,80s, Muslims were not this much aggressive or violent. some people used their religious fundamental to turn them barbarian to activate their hidden agenda. Now Muslims are nuisance for the  rest of world. whether you are not a part of hidden agendas, you can be a victim of them.

You're leaving out one crucial element to that which completely negates your entire argument. Christian scripture was completely opposed to what actual "christians" did. The scripture told them to do the exact opposite of what they did. It actually taught to love and forgive. Be kind to your enemies. If someone strikes you turn the other cheek. If people do not accept your teachings then turn around and leave them.

This is completely contrary to the teachings of Islam that actually tell muslims to kill the infidel, force their beliefs on others, kill those who turn from the teachings, allow them to use deception and even lie about their religion in countries that may be hostile to Islam etc.

So Christians in western societies imposed religion in their human judgement in order to impose "a civilized way of life" (which they learned eventually to be counter to it), not because scripture told them, and ended the subjagation a thousand years ago. Islam on the other hand actually tells muslims to commit these atrocities in the name of Allah. A thousand years later they are still stuck in mideival times.

THAT, is where your argument falls flat sir.
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