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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

I think you meant that you have option of taking a loan to invest into bitcoin, yes we all know the potential of bitcoin as an asset but still no one is actually throwing away the fact that this is a volatile market that isn’t controlled by anyone. As such one of the golden rules of bitcoin investment, invest what you can afford to lose; this statement doesn’t mean you will most likely lose your money but the probability of you been a loss is same as been in profits, as such if you didn’t invest a makeshift investment you would be force to take losses even when you aren’t supposed to. But if it is an amount you can afford to lose you will be able to hold on to even losing trades for as long as they bounce back

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

I would advise against this even if you were the best trader around the world, and the reason is clear, no matter how good you are, the chances you could lose money are not zero, and if that were to happen you will need a long time to pay that loan, since it is obvious you do not have any otherwise you would not need a loan to begin with, with this in mind it is better that you avoid this scenario and instead take your time to save any money you can during the next months.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

Being a trader I would strongly suggest you to not take any loan, and start trading with your own money. I've been doing trading since 2014, and entered crypto trading in 2017 era and I can surely suggest you to avoid the loan. However, it's your own decision that either you will take the loan or not.

When it comes to crypto market then anything can happen in the 8 months, there's chance that we may see Bitcoin at $140k or $150k within next 8 months but also we can't ignore the fact that it can drop back to $60k if a sudden bad event takes place. There's chance that the market might get even more bullish and in that case many traders and investors will make money, but who knows what's going to happen in future.

Currently, the market is bullish and many people think that they can make huge money in such times but no one knows when it's going to get bearish and if someone who takes loan in such times in hope to make huge returns might feel depressed if out of sudden market goes bearish. That's why I would suggest you with begin with whatever you have instead of looking for a loan.

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Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

You should never get a loan for you to invest into Bitcoin or any crypto asset. They're highly volatile and we discourage to do that. If you have some other things to be sold, better sell them and use that money into investing. And you're going to put it into margin trading with that leverage? no way.

You're too confident of yourself and I'm not discouraging you but it's really a bad strategy that you're proposing here. Well, if we don't care, we'd tell you to do that and suffer the consequences that you should be responsible later on.

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Taking a loan to trade should be something that shouldn't even cross your mind because the repayment process could easily mess you up psychologically. A big percentage of trading involves emotions, and you might want to have those emotions in check before you make a trading decisions. Any slight form of pressure or deadline is going to get you making mistakes left and right. That is why one of the golden rules of trading is that you should only trade money you can afford to lose.

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Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

If you have to seek our opinions on if you should get a loan, then I think you should probably not get it . I don't mean that you should get it either. If you conclude to take out a loan based on the comments you are the one who would carry the risks that comes with it.

Everyone is speculating that after January 20th Bitcoin's price will go back up, what if it doesn't. What if Trump's swearing has no effect on the price of Bitcoin, do you have another plan to repay the loan without defaulting? Plan for the worse case scenario , you don't want anything to take you by surprise.

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It's a bad idea to borrow for trading, because after all trading is full of risk unless you want to take this step, but this is not good advice.

Saving money is better, right? Maybe you have a fixed salary you can set aside for saving and investing or also for trading capital.
From a loan of $2800 to $3400 the interest is quite high, but this is how the bank charges more than 10% interest.

Anyway... wouldn't dare to take this step.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

my answer is the same as everyone else here. a big, fat NO. don't do it, it's a terrible idea.
taking a personal loan to trade crypto almost never ends well. and as i see it, you are basically borrowing money to gamble on bitcoin price. ask yourself, would you take a bank loan to gamble?

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First thing first I thank to you all for sharing your opinions with me. If I don't lose the base money then yes I can surely handle the loan's interest. But if I lose like %20-30 then bell of chaos is likely to start ringing.

there you go, you have answered yourself. if losing 20–30% would cause chaos, why take the risk?

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

No.

I quoted my answer. As someone may think a 1 word answer is wrong and too short.

FOR YOU THE PROPER ANSWER IS ONE WORD AND IT IS NO.

By the way the proper answer to everyone for this question is no.

The math is against you.

2.8 to 3.4 in 8 months is over 30% interest rate yearly. No one should take out a 30% yearly rate loan.

To be frank if you are willing to do that you have deep issues that you need to address.

Good luck with what you decide to do.

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Never get a loan to do an investment for crypto/stocks. This is one of the rules in investing that everybody should know and take action to it; the only one who will become happy with doing a loan, is the bank. Only invest money that you are willing to loose also.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

No.

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Your bank makes a lot of money, so a loan of 2.8k and a repayment of 3.4k is a bad deal for you. You want Bitcoin to rise at least 20% to avoid losses, so it is better to avoid this and borrow from a friend or someone you trust or try to invest long term, as the profits you make in 6 months may be doubled from a long term investment of 5 years.

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First thing first I thank to you all for sharing your opinions with me. If I don't lose the base money then yes I can surely handle the loan's interest. But if I lose like %20-30 then bell of chaos is likely to start ringing.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

First things first, I’d like to ask: can you pay off the loan if your investment doesn’t go as expected?

I don't see him being capable of paying off the loan within the stipulated timeframe given by the bank in the event of his plans going south. Here's why I think so. If there was a way he can use to make up for the loan in the time given he wouldn't have need for the loan in the first place but would have used that means in securing the money to use in buying bitcoin than going for where he would incur some interest.

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Assuming the answer is yes, then go ahead and take the loan.. thing is, even if Bitcoin doesn’t pump within the timeframe you’re expecting, it will likely increase over time since all these positive news factors can drive its price higher. however, keep in mind that there are no guarantees, so you’ll need to accept the risk and trust your instincts.

Well, if my guess is wrong and he can pay off the loan even without his investment plan working out on time then cool. But provided he may likely not be able then he should also consider the extra interests that may start pilling up addition to initial interest when the timeframe for the loan payment elapses without him paying. The uncertainty about the market is what makes the community discourages loan for bitcoin investment.

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Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

Borrowing money to trade cryptocurrencies is a bad idea, especially if you are inexperienced in trading. One of the rules that everyone should follow is not to invest more than you are willing to lose, and you should ask yourself the following question: "Can I live with losing all the money I borrowed?"

The risk is definitely high, and the additional question that arises is whether that money (in case you lose it) would affect only you or other members of your family?

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If I were in the OP's situation and could afford the loan's amortization, I wouldn’t hesitate to borrow money if I saw a profitable opportunity in investing in Bitcoin. I believe this market correction is only temporary. As long as the risks are managed, borrowing money for trading or investing is reasonable. After all, some people even borrow money for gambling, which is far riskier, yet they still justify it. So, if you have confidence in your plan and trust yourself, go for it. As they say, opportunity knocks only once.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

The simple and the truthful and the perfect answer to your question is that you should not take a loan at all. Be patient, work for more, save and invest in bitcoin. This is the best that you can do than to pay $600 as interest in 8 months.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

First things first, I’d like to ask: can you pay off the loan if your investment doesn’t go as expected?

This is immediately what I have thought of upon reading your post OP. This is very important knowing that many things could happen if you make the wrong decision or something went really bad with your investment. We all know that trading can be hard, and making sure that you have managed your risk will be a good practice for this.

It's still up to you to decide. If you have a good track record with your trading, you should do it. However, make sure to manage your risk.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

First things first, I’d like to ask: can you pay off the loan if your investment doesn’t go as expected?

Assuming the answer is yes, then go ahead and take the loan.. thing is, even if Bitcoin doesn’t pump within the timeframe you’re expecting, it will likely increase over time since all these positive news factors can drive its price higher. however, keep in mind that there are no guarantees, so you’ll need to accept the risk and trust your instincts.

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What I see about bitcoin is its gonna bounce between 100-110k to 80-90k for a long time (at least until Trump takes over). I have an option to take a 2.8k $ loan from a bank and pay 3.4k $ in 8 months. (I'm gonna start paying it after 2 months so you may assume its 6 months). Should I get that loan and make 3x - 5x margin trades on Bitcoin with this strategy? I really appreciate your help. Take Care.

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