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Topic: Should I go with Bitcoin or Altcoins for the upcoming bull run cycle? - page 6. (Read 1445 times)

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30k is a scary amount to invest in altcoins even if you know that an altcoin boom is coming in the horizon, I've learned my lesson about altcoins last season so I don't want to repeat the same mistakes, I'm better off just waiting for my bitcoin to grow and hopefully sell it at a favorable price and then hopefully get in quickly to it. OP's plan is feasible and attractive to follow but that will be the possible scenario if all the stuff that OP mentioned exactly happened and we know that the cryptocurrency market is a volatile market and you will never know what's going to happen even if you are good at market analysis.

Investing in altcoins shouldn't be done with much money but only the amount that you can afford to loss. Altcoins can be hype by the dev and the price will pump 100X and before you know it,you that invested at that time becomes the loser because in no time,it will turn to zero,leaving you frustrated. It is better to invest in bitcoin and hodli for long and get profit from it during the bull run. Than to invest in some altcoins that would give you sleepless night. The most valuable cryptocurrency is bit coin and the rest are duplicates.
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30k is a scary amount to invest in altcoins even if you know that an altcoin boom is coming in the horizon, I've learned my lesson about altcoins last season so I don't want to repeat the same mistakes, I'm better off just waiting for my bitcoin to grow and hopefully sell it at a favorable price and then hopefully get in quickly to it. OP's plan is feasible and attractive to follow but that will be the possible scenario if all the stuff that OP mentioned exactly happened and we know that the cryptocurrency market is a volatile market and you will never know what's going to happen even if you are good at market analysis.
Indeed it is scary if you are investing in new projects but if you are investing in ETH, you are going to have peace of mind. But yes, $30k is quite huge enough to put into a risky investment even though we know that ETH can be trusted or ideal for long-term investment. If ever I have that amount in hand, I will put some amount to other form in investment or start a business as in the case that we lose in crypto, we still have other way to recover those losses from other investment and income resources.
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  • First, I establish from the outset that BTC is solely for holding, not for selling. When BTC surpasses its peak and an Altcoin wave is on the horizon, all you need to do is put your BTC into cross margin and borrow USDT (not exceeding 50% of your capital) to invest in Altcoins.
  • For instance, if you currently have $26,000, you could invest in 1 BTC and hold it from now on. Hold it until BTC surpasses its previous peak of $69,000, which would mean your asset is now worth $69,000. At this point, place the value of 1 BTC into Cross Margin and borrow $30,000 to invest in Altcoins. Borrow only $30,000 or even less, not more. This way, you can continue holding onto that 1 BTC as it climbs to $100,000 or $150,000, while also having $30,000 to invest in Altcoins. With the $30,000 borrowed, smart investment in Altcoins can potentially turn your initial asset into $300,000. You could sell the original 1 BTC that you held onto for $100,000 or $150,000. The combined profit from BTC and Altcoins could amount to around $400,000 - $450,000. After repaying the $30,000 borrowed from the exchange, you'd be left with $370,000 - $420,000.
That's really a good advice but not for beginners, it's really for those who actually have experience in trading, know what happens during the bull market and know what they are doing. The hardest part is to choose a good altcoin that has the potential to rise. Not only the technical background of altcoin matters but it's also very important what the team is doing for its marketing and promotion.
My advice would be to not listen to Redditors and twitter users when it comes to altcoins. They love to write bullshit like it's going to the moon, APE APE and so on.

In any case, during the "bull cycles" if anyone wants to touch altcoins they should firs prepare themselves for the concept of pumps and dumps otherwise they will be dumped on and become bag-holders. It is of paramount importance to know when to sell altcoins and how to do it quickly.

This is why we always suggest newcomers to stick to bitcoin alone.
This is really the number one advice for newcomers to stick with Bitcoin, but I would say, coins like Ethereum are a safe choice too. By the way, when you hold bitcoin, you know you don't face the risk of holding a scam coin that is pumped and dumped by a group of people. Any altcoin can go wrong anytime and that won't affect bitcoin but if bitcoin goes wrong, the whole market goes wrong but there is a very high chance that bitcoin is the least coin to go wrong from the whole coinmarketcap list.
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Much depends on how much a beginner can invest. If the funds allow, he can split the funds and buy bitcoin and some altcoins, but the choice of altcoins is a complex process and can lead to both making good profits and losing funds. If there is no proper knowledge, then altcoins can only lead to a loss of money, in which case Bitcoin will be a more reliable choice. When I was a beginner I chose altcoins, but I couldn't take profits when I needed to, so there are a lot of complexities besides choosing what to buy.
Yes, a agree with you that for newbies who intend to invest in crypto, Bitcoin should be their choice, whereas for experience crypto investors who intend to take risk, then altcoin should be their best try, since the truth of the fact is that altcoins are always more volatile compared to Bitcoin, and it will be of more harm for a clueless newbie to jump into it without prior knowledge of knowing how it operates, which as time goes on, likely to gain more knowledgeable about investing in Bitcoin.

I totally agree with you on this. Altcoins is easier to flip but highly volatile than Bitcoin but people see things differently as driven by their motives, even newbies can not say for a certain that which is best until they do their due diligence on which and what to buy in order of priority as it concerns profit making.
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If you always diversify your investments, then it will be great for you on long run. You need not have to rely on particular one asset. If you ask me Bitcoins or alts, then I will definitely say Bitcoins. It’s because the marketcap of the coin is high and unlike other alts, it’s limited in numbers. Hence it is very rare. So there is high chances that if demand increases to buy the coin during bull run, then the price will go up. Moreover if you want, you can buy few alts too, for backup purpose.
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We all have different experiences with our crypto investments, some have been highly profitable on bitcoin while some have been making excellent profits with altcoins. So no one can decide for the other person. However, if we know how to diversify and include them both as our investments, then we will have no problems or missed opportunities in the future. Invest in both of them with caution, and learn to assess from your own experience which one deserves bigger or smaller allocation, so that you can still gain profits from both of them when bullish market happens.

It all depends on your expertise about understanding the market. Some understand bitcoin market well while some are proficient at Alts. For me bitcoin is the primary choice of investment as I find it the controlling agent of crypto market. See if bitcoin is up everything is up and vice versa. Its better to have a ratio of 70:30 between bitcoin and alts. Alts are mostly dependent on bitcoin for there bull runs.

Alts depend entirely on bitcoin. But one thing we should not deny is that investing in altcoins is very risky but the profits it brings us are not small, if not their profits are many times greater than bitcoin brings. I understand that investing in bitcoin is safe but don't ignore altcoins either, especially during bull season when most of them will go crazy in price. High risk, high profit, depending on each person's thinking, I have made a lot of profit from altcoins in 2021 so there is no reason to ignore it.

In my opinion, investing in bitcoin or altcoin is a personal choice, we cannot say that bitcoin is the only investment worth investing in and all altcoins are useless. There have been many people who have made great profits by investing in bitcoin, but there are also many people who have changed their lives by choosing the right altcoin to invest. I really like bitcoin because it's safer than altcoins, but I also don't hate people who are investing in altcoins and ignoring bitcoin. Because after all, the ultimate goal is still profit, so whoever has more profit will follow their investment philosophy correctly.
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We all have different experiences with our crypto investments, some have been highly profitable on bitcoin while some have been making excellent profits with altcoins. So no one can decide for the other person. However, if we know how to diversify and include them both as our investments, then we will have no problems or missed opportunities in the future. Invest in both of them with caution, and learn to assess from your own experience which one deserves bigger or smaller allocation, so that you can still gain profits from both of them when bullish market happens.

It all depends on your expertise about understanding the market. Some understand bitcoin market well while some are proficient at Alts. For me bitcoin is the primary choice of investment as I find it the controlling agent of crypto market. See if bitcoin is up everything is up and vice versa. Its better to have a ratio of 70:30 between bitcoin and alts. Alts are mostly dependent on bitcoin for there bull runs.

Alts depend entirely on bitcoin. But one thing we should not deny is that investing in altcoins is very risky but the profits it brings us are not small, if not their profits are many times greater than bitcoin brings. I understand that investing in bitcoin is safe but don't ignore altcoins either, especially during bull season when most of them will go crazy in price. High risk, high profit, depending on each person's thinking, I have made a lot of profit from altcoins in 2021 so there is no reason to ignore it.
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30k is a scary amount to invest in altcoins even if you know that an altcoin boom is coming in the horizon, I've learned my lesson about altcoins last season so I don't want to repeat the same mistakes, I'm better off just waiting for my bitcoin to grow and hopefully sell it at a favorable price and then hopefully get in quickly to it. OP's plan is feasible and attractive to follow but that will be the possible scenario if all the stuff that OP mentioned exactly happened and we know that the cryptocurrency market is a volatile market and you will never know what's going to happen even if you are good at market analysis.
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Many people in the crypto market are still uncertain about which type of asset to hold onto for the upcoming growth cycle of the crypto market: Bitcoin or Altcoins. Additionally, they're wondering when to catch the bottom or exit at the peak. As we know from previous cycles, Bitcoin tends to rise first, attracting the influx of funds, followed by new funds flowing into Altcoins. However, holding onto Bitcoin might not yield substantial profits, and determining the right time to switch from Bitcoin to Altcoin for maximizing gains during the growth season remains a challenge.

Now, I'd like to share a method that I have been using and find quite effective, hoping to share it and receive feedback from you all:

  • First, I establish from the outset that BTC is solely for holding, not for selling. When BTC surpasses its peak and an Altcoin wave is on the horizon, all you need to do is put your BTC into cross margin and borrow USDT (not exceeding 50% of your capital) to invest in Altcoins.
  • For instance, if you currently have $26,000, you could invest in 1 BTC and hold it from now on. Hold it until BTC surpasses its previous peak of $69,000, which would mean your asset is now worth $69,000. At this point, place the value of 1 BTC into Cross Margin and borrow $30,000 to invest in Altcoins. Borrow only $30,000 or even less, not more. This way, you can continue holding onto that 1 BTC as it climbs to $100,000 or $150,000, while also having $30,000 to invest in Altcoins. With the $30,000 borrowed, smart investment in Altcoins can potentially turn your initial asset into $300,000. You could sell the original 1 BTC that you held onto for $100,000 or $150,000. The combined profit from BTC and Altcoins could amount to around $400,000 - $450,000. After repaying the $30,000 borrowed from the exchange, you'd be left with $370,000 - $420,000.

In summary: Starting with an initial investment of $26,000, you could potentially make $370,000 - $420,000.

In previous cycles, I often found myself struggling to find the answer to the question of "when to sell BTC and switch to Altcoins." BTC is meant to be held, not sold, and even more importantly, never sold for Altcoins. Simply hold onto BTC and when there's an Altcoin wave, use your BTC as collateral to borrow funds for Altcoin investments (ensuring borrowing remains under 30% of your capital). Now, with the increasing choices offered by the DeFi market compared to past cycles, this method proves quite effective for the strategy of using BTC as collateral to borrow USD for Altcoin investments.

Out of the altcoins in the market, only ETH so far stands out for me that is worth to DCA (dollar-cost averaging) in preparation for the upcoming bull run cycle on top of holding my BTCs.

When I have started to DCA with Bitcoin early last year, I knew that I'm not gonna do the same mistake again of getting in to BTC early. Although the first two DCAs I have Bitcoin are losses which I've bought them around $30k and $31k respectively, the rest however are already in profits when I have bought it between $19k to $23k range until my budget can't take it anymore.

I have never thought of using BTC as collateral for short and mid term altcoins. I am already fine with BTC and ETH as my long term ones before the bull run commences anytime.
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We all have different experiences with our crypto investments, some have been highly profitable on bitcoin while some have been making excellent profits with altcoins. So no one can decide for the other person. However, if we know how to diversify and include them both as our investments, then we will have no problems or missed opportunities in the future. Invest in both of them with caution, and learn to assess from your own experience which one deserves bigger or smaller allocation, so that you can still gain profits from both of them when bullish market happens.

It all depends on your expertise about understanding the market. Some understand bitcoin market well while some are proficient at Alts. For me bitcoin is the primary choice of investment as I find it the controlling agent of crypto market. See if bitcoin is up everything is up and vice versa. Its better to have a ratio of 70:30 between bitcoin and alts. Alts are mostly dependent on bitcoin for there bull runs.
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If you're really into Altcoins then you should definitely give enough time to research and testing because many times top 10 altcoins also got devalued without any warning. I would encourage you to study the case of Terra Luna because once that coin was also among the top 10 cryptocurrencies but in a week it lost most of its value and many investors have lost a lot of their investment due to Luna crash.
Absolutely, I agree with you regarding Terra Luna being one of the toughest lessons for crypto investors in 2022. However, let's not forget how massively Luna grew when Bitcoin broke its previous peak, right? So, if you don't get too greedy, imagine the profits you can make with Altcoins, including Luna.
If you still want to go with the altcoins then I recommend you to stick with the ones that have been doing great for many years. Some people may recommend you to go with Arbitrum or Polygon (MATIC) but I think those are still new in market and both of them can suffer huge value drops. I'm sure that if you diversify your $30k on ETH, BNB, LTC, Doge, and to some extent XRP, then you'll still be safe from losing your capital. The XRP may not get much higher in value but it's the safest among all of those because it will continue to survive in next bull run.
Thank you for your suggestion, Arbitrum is also one of the good coins in my portfolio for the upcoming bull run cycle. I have strong confidence in the L2 trend taking off, and Arbitrum is one of the platforms that shouldn't be overlooked.
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In an investment we need to consider the risk, between an altcoin and Bitcoin, it is established that it is way much safe to invest in Bitcoin.  Aside from that, the current situation of the incoming halving of Bitcoin states that the market is about to become bullish, and we know that during the bullish run of Bitcoin in its 4-year cycle, it always happen that it tends to break its all time high which often gives its investors a huge profit.

Just do remember that investing even in bitcoin will take some considerations on your end.
It depends on your financial conditions when you get involved with this market.
Assess your situation if you can wait longer before you can sell. Just hold off if you are not ready in this market.
So choosing between bitcoin and alts, relies on how well you know each market and how ready you are in facing the possible hurdles that may come while you are still holding those coins.

True that every investment have their risk but in this scenario I am comparing the risk between altcoin and Bitcoin which many of us established that Bitcoin is way safer than investment in altcoins.  Plus the current situation where Bitcoin is about to transition to bull run in the coming years, it is better to invest in Bitcoin now at least investors can rake profit at a shorter amount of time, and can always reinvest when the market price goes down.

I do agree that it also depends on the financial condition, if someone had the money then considering the amount of risk involved, it is advisable to choose BTC for an investment.  For me it is better to have an average profit than aiming for a one in a lifetime gigantic profit but have the possibility of 99% being scammed.
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We all have different experiences with our crypto investments, some have been highly profitable on bitcoin while some have been making excellent profits with altcoins. So no one can decide for the other person. However, if we know how to diversify and include them both as our investments, then we will have no problems or missed opportunities in the future. Invest in both of them with caution, and learn to assess from your own experience which one deserves bigger or smaller allocation, so that you can still gain profits from both of them when bullish market happens.
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In an investment we need to consider the risk, between an altcoin and Bitcoin, it is established that it is way much safe to invest in Bitcoin.  Aside from that, the current situation of the incoming halving of Bitcoin states that the market is about to become bullish, and we know that during the bullish run of Bitcoin in its 4-year cycle, it always happen that it tends to break its all time high which often gives its investors a huge profit.

Just do remember that investing even in bitcoin will take some considerations on your end.
It depends on your financial conditions when you get involved with this market.
Assess your situation if you can wait longer before you can sell. Just hold off if you are not ready in this market.
So choosing between bitcoin and alts, relies on how well you know each market and how ready you are in facing the possible hurdles that may come while you are still holding those coins.
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In an investment we need to consider the risk, between an altcoin and Bitcoin, it is established that it is way much safe to invest in Bitcoin.  Aside from that, the current situation of the incoming halving of Bitcoin states that the market is about to become bullish, and we know that during the bullish run of Bitcoin in its 4-year cycle, it always happen that it tends to break its all time high which often gives its investors a huge profit.
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Bitcoin all the way. Bitcoin is the best crypto in the market. You may not make 100x with btc but you are not going to lose money if things go south too. With alts, yes you may make x100- x1000 if you are lucky but that's they keyword here... do you feel lucky? Why even take that risk? If you feel lucky just play dice. Investment is a serious business and bitcoin is the most serious crypto out there. There are a few good alts too though. Maybe you can try eth, ltc, xmr but I wouldn't bother with them. Just get btc.
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Borrow only $30,000 or even less, not more.
This is the biggest problem with your plan: if your financial situation requires you to borrow $30k then you're simply not in the position to take such a risk. I love bitcoin but, as much as I trust it, I would never take a loan in order to buy more, bitcoin or other cryptos, because if for any reason the market collapse quickly you could end up in a very bad situation. Just invest what you can afford to lose, don't make calculations based on money you don't actually have.
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I like our idea Op it is a very good and low risk strategy for next crypto bull run, but it will work fine for experienced people they have a experience when to borrow and move towards altcoin.
How is it low risk since your 1 BTC will be held by a lending platform during the whole time your loan is active? There are serious risks you can be scammed by the platform, especially if Bitcoin skyrockets meanwhile, so everything you are going to have are the altcoins under your possession, losing the most important and valuable asset, which is Bitcoin.

I think this is a greedy and dangerous strategy. It would be better to just hold Bitcoin inside a wallet controlled by you, waiting until it hits a new ATH, so you could sell your holdings and buy the same amount you had once the price falls again, maintaining your holdings, while cashing out some profit.
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If I were you, I'd put it all in Bitcoin.

I'd risk it on altcoins but that would require a lot of research and decision making so I'll go for Bitcoin instead. It's better to invest on something more solid and strong rather than risking it to a quick rich hoping scenario that would happen. Just make sure to put that Bitcoin in a well reputable wallet, but don't put it all in just one basket, for some assurance that in case your wallet got hacked, at least you still have another one that's store the other half of your bitcoin.
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It cannot be denied that some of us here have been earning bigger profits in altcoins more than bitcoin, but the question is are their being profitable sustainable enough? Because we all know that altcoins are just pump and dump scheme, one day they’re up, the following day they’re totally down. So I cannot compromise myself particularly my finances to trust altcoins more than bitcoin. However, I believe we vary with our own decision making. But as a piece of advice, learn to weigh things first before you jump investing into a bigger amount. Established altcoins have the potentials to succeed, but with bitcoin, there is high security and guarantees that it will never end up as dead coin like most altcoins do.
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