Topic: Should I pay my Traffic Tickets? - page 7. (Read 8164 times)

This is a good course of action. Makes you feel better and they get what they were always after..YOUR MONEY

what if I send the payment with a note: "Here's your extortion money"

Let me know how those tactics work out for you two  

They have all the power and dont mind using it

When ever you are bent over spreading you ass checks apart so they can look inside your asshole. Think of me 

you are fleas on the nuts of the state

ignoring the cop might be the most worthwhile; force them to arrest you or leave you alone; take the pick; if they arrest they risk arresting someone that does have a license;
 i dont think cops love confrontation either.

That's just you being dumb.  Cops will lie to you.  If you have a warrant out why go to the cops and think it will be cool.  Also if you are going to mouth off to a cop make sure you are recording it so you can prove in court exactly what you said.  Just use the systems rules to your advantage.  While maybe morally and ethically you have every right to fish that doesn't change the actual reality.

I got a seat belt ticket a few years back and forgot all about it. A couple months later an officer came by my house and left a card.

I was like shit I missed my court date. I need to fix this, so I gave him a call. Said man I messed up and want to fix this. What do I need to do? He says oh no big deal just come on down here. I asked do I need to bring anything and he say just yourself. I said bullshit and stopped at the atm and withdrew 250 usd. When I got down there they immediately arrested me, booked me , took my bio metrics then set my bond at 400 usd secured bond. Had to spend most of the day in jail and call my dad to come and bring me some cash

Just 3 days ago I went to court over a fishing licence ticket. I tool the officer when he gave me the ticket that he was stealing from me and my family, called him a thief at which point he asked why I dint have a licence and I told him that i didnt need a licence to fish that it wasnt him or the state of north carolina that gave me the right to fish. I told him I was born with right. He did not like it. So when I went to court he showed up and told the judge I gave him a hard time. Without letting me say one word she tacked on another 250 usd to the fine for a total of 430 usd.

I have 2 felony convictions have spent 6 years on probation, 5 months in prison, and given the state over 100k  take it from someone who knows. If you stir up shit you are the one that is gonna be left stinking

Just pay the god damn fine and keep working to defund the state with bitcoin  

That's my strategy. They'll spend thousands on trying to get one thousand out of me; hot stupid are they

this is interesting:

http://neomoney.net/?p=259

if a story like that spreads the locals should be outraged. that money could be put to MUCH better use

Starving the beast is a good strategy.  Use up as much resources as you can and use the systems overcapacity to your advantage.   

They make you sign a form that you are ok with not having a real judge hear your case.  What are your charges?  I can try to give you some pointers on different defenses if you are going the self representation route.

Come on, we all know it is about the revenue.

Kudos to the OP on trying wake the peeps up and trying to get them to fight back.

The only way to stop the madness is to starve the beast.

.gov cannot run without the revenue (taxes, tickets, licenses fees, etc.)

At least at the local level.

Perhaps the fed can, cause all they have to do is print more $$$.

Back to the original topic, if you can  - spring for an attorney, it levels the playing field.

how do you tell if it is a judge pro tem?

The above strategy is utter nonsense because that line of reasoning would apply to every single prosecution and that would mean no one gets prosecuted for anything.  Your best bet is to show up and the cop is not there.  Most judges in California overcrowded courts aren't judges but judge pro tem which is just a lawyer and you can say you don't want him.  If you get to an actual judge you can give him a story about why you aren't ready and ask for a new date.  So simple strategy show up and if cop is there and it's not an actual judge don't accept that.  If you get to a judge and cop is there try to get another date.  It may be possible to have your statutory time limit between arraignment and trial date lapse this way as well so it will eventually just get dismissed even if cop does show up. 

well can you come with me and bring a camera?

If 50% (probably much less) of people followed suit with not complying; the enforcement would stop

I highly doubt his argument worked. If it did, every lawyer would be using it as a precedent in their cases, and it would be a landmark case. Not to mention being paid by the state doesn't imply the judge won't be able to give an impartial hearing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but apology implies you admit to doing it.

In Quebec, they suspend your license then throw you in jail if you persist at not paying your fine. Alternatively, you are offered to do community work instead.

It looks like it's the same in Alberta:

http://www.slsedmonton.com/criminal/unpaid-fines-and-debt/

If you don't pay your ticket then it will eventually become a "large" unpaid fine.

There is a clear distinction between debt and police fine:

You are going through phases of grief because of your traffic tickets (currently stuck some where between bargaining and anger).  The sooner you get to depression and acceptance and pay your fines, the sooner you will avoid getting arrested for driving without a license followed by more phases of grief.

They don't incarcerate you for debts in Canada.  Not sure how it works in Quebec, but in Alberta if you don't pay your tickets you simply lose registration access.  You can no longer renew your driver's license, car registration, etc.  It's the same as if you don't pay child support.

I've already been arrested before. America will arrest you for nothing. I know that's true with most every country

I don't know how it works in California, but in Canada they simply throw you in jail = criminal record.