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January 19, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
#33
Yes, I will answer any questions

To be honest mate, I wouldn't believe a word that came out of your mouth. The last time I came across you, "almost a hero member", you were shilling the cryptcominer.com Ponzi.

I confirm that this is not a scam.

right now its a great company with good support.

You guys are dumb. It was an obvious ponzi at the beginning


Notice how I said "right now its a great company with good support". The only "scams" that I have participated in is the 3 ponzi sites.
Autoponzi.com nextponzi.com bitcoinponzi.io
My explanation and story is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930008.new#new
Please read through this

Go fuck a duck!!!!!

The only "scams" that I have participated in is the 3 ponzi sites.
Autoponzi.com nextponzi.com bitcoinponzi.io
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You don't even deserve to have your story heard, Fuck off away from BTC forever!!!! (you are bad for business)
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Hello, I am not the one who stole it, and it would be even worse if I left this forum, because I am trying to help regain this 13 btc back.
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January 19, 2015, 06:02:08 PM
#32
Yes, I will answer any questions

To be honest mate, I wouldn't believe a word that came out of your mouth. The last time I came across you, "almost a hero member", you were shilling the cryptcominer.com Ponzi.

I confirm that this is not a scam.

right now its a great company with good support.

You guys are dumb. It was an obvious ponzi at the beginning


Notice how I said "right now its a great company with good support". The only "scams" that I have participated in is the 3 ponzi sites.
Autoponzi.com nextponzi.com bitcoinponzi.io
My explanation and story is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930008.new#new
Please read through this
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January 19, 2015, 06:00:45 PM
#31
I will be explaining the story of kerimk2 and my partner (moreia). I am writing the post as we speak and I hope we can resolve this

Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
My idiot partner had used that and tried to appeal, got my account banned.

Is moreia the "idiot partner"?
Yes, I will answer any questions
Are you and partner behind all ponzi in this forum?

Very good question.....

(I do lots of php, mysql, html coding)

Wouldn't surprise me one bit, if he's qualified he could make several of these sites daily, very deceptive opener and now thinking long and hard about your excuses that I believe you are still writing  Huh
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January 19, 2015, 05:49:23 PM
#30
I will be explaining the story of kerimk2 and my partner (moreia). I am writing the post as we speak and I hope we can resolve this

Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
My idiot partner had used that and tried to appeal, got my account banned.

Is moreia the "idiot partner"?
Yes, I will answer any questions
Are you and partner behind all ponzi in this forum?
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January 19, 2015, 05:45:44 PM
#29
Yes, I will answer any questions

To be honest mate, I wouldn't believe a word that came out of your mouth. The last time I came across you, "almost a hero member", you were shilling the cryptcominer.com Ponzi.

I confirm that this is not a scam.

right now its a great company with good support.

You guys are dumb. It was an obvious ponzi at the beginning

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January 19, 2015, 05:28:16 PM
#28
I will be explaining the story of kerimk2 and my partner (moreia). I am writing the post as we speak and I hope we can resolve this

Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
My idiot partner had used that and tried to appeal, got my account banned.

Is moreia the "idiot partner"?
Yes, I will answer any questions
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January 19, 2015, 05:25:56 PM
#27
I will be explaining the story of kerimk2 and my partner (moreia). I am writing the post as we speak and I hope we can resolve this

Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
My idiot partner had used that and tried to appeal, got my account banned.

Is moreia the "idiot partner"?
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January 19, 2015, 05:20:43 PM
#26
Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
My idiot partner had used that and tried to appeal, got my account banned.
Im halfway done my story...
Very sorry about this guys.
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January 19, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
#25
Since his alt account is banned, he admitted that it is his alt account, and he is posting outside of meta (and meta for reasons other then to appeal his ban) would it be appropriate for him to get banned for ban evading?
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January 19, 2015, 05:15:27 PM
#24
I was going to reply but

I will be explaining the story of kerimk2 and my partner (moreia). I am writing the post as we speak and I hope we can resolve this

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
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January 19, 2015, 05:11:27 PM
#23
Fine.
Quickseller you got me. I was involved in these sites, and kerimk2 was my alt account.
I will be making a post to explain my story about the parnership of these ponzi sites, ill start writing it.
I assure you that I was not the one who stole the 13btc.


What can you explain? You've lost any credibility even remotely possible.
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January 19, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
#22
Scam accusation against williamj2534 has been opened https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/williamj2543-is-running-a-ponzi-via-his-alt-929985

I would like to add that around the time I was added to Default Trust list that I was contacted by william via Skype and was asked if I wanted to buy a dice script. I obviously declined, however I suspect that it contained malware
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January 19, 2015, 05:10:26 PM
#21
I will be explaining the story of kerimk2 and my partner (moreia). I am writing the post as we speak and I hope we can resolve this
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January 19, 2015, 05:08:44 PM
#20
Fine.
Quickseller you got me. I was involved in these sites, and kerimk2 was my alt account.
I will be making a post to explain my story about the parnership of these ponzi sites, ill start writing it.
I assure you that I was not the one who stole the 13btc.

That does not match your OP.
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January 19, 2015, 05:06:46 PM
#19
Fine.
Quickseller you got me. I was involved in these sites, and kerimk2 was my alt account.
I will be making a post to explain my story about the parnership of these ponzi sites, ill start writing it.
I assure you that I was not the one who stole the 13btc.
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January 19, 2015, 04:53:52 PM
#18
Argument #1: Ponzi sites are illegal
So are gambling websites that don't have the proper gambling licenses.
So are Bitcoin exchanges that do not have the proper money transmitter licenses or AML procedures.
So are lenders that don't abide by payday loan laws.
So are public performances of the song "Happy birthday to you" which is copyrighted by Warner/Chappell Music.

Argument #2: All ponzi sites are a scam

If the ponzi site fulfills their side of the deal and does exactly what they promise and both parties are willingly trading, where did the scam occur?

Argument #3: Ponzi's should be banned because they make Bitcoin look "bad"
Instead of banning ponzi's, why don't we make things a bit better and form a mining cartel, make a blacklist of bitcoin addresses known to be used by ponzi sites and never confirm any ponzi site payments?

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The general ethos of Bitcoin is for free market trade and against regulation. How can you actually believe that and at the same time be trying to ban people from using Bitcoin because it makes Bitcoin look bad?

Argument #4: Most ponzi sites aren't provably fair so they are scams
There is probably a way to make ponzi sites provably fair using tx scripts. But if ponzi sites are a scam due to the lack of provably fair, then so are all gambling sites that don't have provably fair, such as poker sites and sportsbook websites.

Argument #5: Ponzi's arent entertainment
People have different opinions on what entertainment is. It may not be entertaining for you, but I'm sure its entertaining for others.

Argument #6: Ponzi's are scams because people will lose money
There will always be people who lose money on any gambling website. Otherwise the website would be losing money.

Thats all the arguments I can think of right now.
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January 19, 2015, 04:52:29 PM
#17
Hey, I know there is another thread here but this case is different. The owner of nextponzi.com (and also autoponzi.com and bitcoinponzi.io, which are all the same owner) has stolen 13btc from nextponzi.com for  "medical emergency" (not that I believe that but he is gone for good).
I sent him an email. since I noticed 13 btc was sent from the ponzi address to his own wallet and then used shared send to somewhere (I dont think we can track it now). He offered to give me his code and password to the hosting site he used and all of his sites, and so I could hcange the email and therefore give it to me. I was chosen because I was trusted, and was almost a hero member and I participated in some of his ponzis. Anyways, I would like to run one of these HONESTLY. There is lots of money in the fees, and since my account is almost 2 years old (maybe even older? I don't know), I would be open to starting up ONE large, trusted ponzi, with multiple features and a large well done site (I do lots of php, mysql, html coding) and could take ponzis to the next level, and I seek to create a large trusted ponzi. Weeklyponzi is extremely trusted, more than 2000 replies on their post, but there account is newbie. They are not trusted here, for all we know its just a throwaway account from someone already on the forum, but I want to create a ponzi where people know that a trusted person is running it, and am using a very valuable account.
All that I ask from the community, is how people will react if I start up a ponzi. I have messaged quickseller, shorena, and redsn0w about this and they suggested for me to post this here, but I want the people who automatically label ponzi accounts as negative to listen and use the trust system how it is supposed to be used.
If theres no evidence of me scamming, please don't leave negative trust, since I haven't done anything wrong. A ponzi SCHEME is a scam, taking new investors money and giving it old, and then calling it "cloud mining". It is strange to me that these obvious ponzi SCHEMES, are treated better than a ponzi GAME which stay online and never run away with the money.
If the community doesnt want me running a ponzi that would be taken into consideration, and the reason im posting this is to not trash my 2 year old account trusted by more than 15 people an zero negative or even neutral trust.
If I created a ponzi, this would be the ponzi with the account that is the most trusted to date. We had a full member run, but even he got his account negative bombed even though he never scammed anyone.
TLDR: I am thinking of running a honest ponzi GAME, and please dont negative trust me if I create one and don't scam anyone
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January 19, 2015, 04:52:03 PM
#16
No my computer was not compromised, it was a blockchain server problem (Can someone vouch for me here, I got an email from blockchain and they made a blog post aobut this) that a small percent of addresses where compromised, and that they recommended to archive your wallet. The new blockchain wallet used for the site will have a VERY long password with 2fa and whitelisted IP calls.
He replied to me using a hushmail email, which I can provide if you want, but i dont think hushmail would reveal anything.
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January 19, 2015, 04:49:43 PM
#15
Ok. I'd like to switch my address to 16MtvTUvqwwKwV87nayxPLHTJJZNGPa9qw. I owe him some money so I'd like my earnings to go to that address instead.
Thanks!

If that isn't some damning ass evidence  Shocked Shocked

williamj2543 you got caught planning your scam within the first page. Nice detective work Quickseller
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January 19, 2015, 04:45:10 PM
#14
Ok. I'd like to switch my address to 16MtvTUvqwwKwV87nayxPLHTJJZNGPa9qw. I owe him some money so I'd like my earnings to go to that address instead.
Thanks!
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