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Topic: SHUFFLE.COM SCAMMED me for ~ 15k TRX (Read 350 times)

newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 1
October 23, 2024, 01:35:50 PM
#22
Hey. This is how they take a look at my case.

https://imgur.com/a/HXV4Sdx

Instead of solve my issue they decide to send me an offensive messages. Radicolous! Their customer support is unbelievable low quality and rude. Not only this Lady, but Tommy and others as well. I can not believe that any credible casino can accept this kind of actions against their customers.
Strongly not recommend to play there!

Precisely what I have experienced as well beginning with fake profile of Tommy who IMO needs to be euthanized from accessing contact with customers based on his total lack of concern and sense of entitlement combined with indifference to actually doing his job.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 1
October 22, 2024, 05:35:52 AM
#21
Hey guys - won't be sharing identifying information, but can confirm beyond reasonable doubt that this player was multi-accounting and breaking ToS. Plenty of evidence for this, we wouldn't be taking action against a player unless we were absolutely sure their behaviour was abusive.

Not sure why then would your staff tell players it is actually okay to have multiple accounts? From my perspective you are using this as an excuse to with hold money not to curb abuse.

As for your Little Minion LM, he is very quick to defend you and off any ideas that are proof your full of spit and hot air with your excuses and explanations for dismissing somebody and keeping their funds. I’ve reported lots of multi accounted and even reported it when they were placed on different campaigns. He’ll even I was offered $ to make a new account under different partners and told it was ok. So either it is ok or it isn’t there isn’t a gray area here where you can use it to disadvantage somebody at will.

I vividly recall many posts stating all a player needs to do is place a bet to be eligible for consideration in air drops. Did I miss something or did you add stuff later without properly notifying us of changes to these requirements, again to disadvantage people rather than to actually combat abuse since there are lots of stolen money crossing shuffle being used to launder the proceeds without any compliance to stop it.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 2100
Marketing Campaign Manager |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse
September 01, 2024, 01:46:44 PM
#20
you should prevent creating multiple accounts anyway.
Which casino has this feature? How do they do it?
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 1
September 01, 2024, 07:45:16 AM
#19
Hey guys - won't be sharing identifying information, but can confirm beyond reasonable doubt that this player was multi-accounting and breaking ToS. Plenty of evidence for this, we wouldn't be taking action against a player unless we were absolutely sure their behaviour was abusive.

I will request that you kindly check again and make sure your team is doing the right thing. We don't want to see any troubles when someone plays on your platform. This type of allegations would affect your platform. Because even on Google search, this thread will appear when someone searches about your casino. So please try to solve it. I am not just pushing you blindly, and also users may make mistakes. So there should be a solution, and you should prevent creating multiple accounts anyway. Solving issues is better for your platform, just not for users only. 

I agree with your point, although the amount in question isn't substantial, it could still harm the reputation of a new and upcoming crypto casino. Since the original poster consented to the sharing of personal details, , I believe that providing a small amount of evidence to support the alleged accusation could be very effective in this case.
legendary
Activity: 2394
Merit: 2223
Signature space for rent
September 01, 2024, 07:20:32 AM
#18
Hey guys - won't be sharing identifying information, but can confirm beyond reasonable doubt that this player was multi-accounting and breaking ToS. Plenty of evidence for this, we wouldn't be taking action against a player unless we were absolutely sure their behaviour was abusive.

I will request that you kindly check again and make sure your team is doing the right thing. We don't want to see any troubles when someone plays on your platform. This type of allegations would affect your platform. Because even on Google search, this thread will appear when someone searches about your casino. So please try to solve it. I am not just pushing you blindly, and also users may make mistakes. So there should be a solution, and you should prevent creating multiple accounts anyway. Solving issues is better for your platform, just not for users only. 
legendary
Activity: 2072
Merit: 4265
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September 01, 2024, 06:09:35 AM
#17
Again, the same old stories. A person once created an account, forgot, or his friend, dad, mom, or cat created an account with his IP... And again, we see the casino accusing that it was this account that the casino made unfair accusations against. How many times have we seen this? OP, remember who you trust your computer to, and who knows about your gambling habits—who could accidentally or intentionally harm you? If there are no such people, then your game strategy is very similar to other players who are tracked by the casino. Read the accusations from other accounts in this section; there were amounts higher than yours, but the players always and everywhere lied. We do not live in 2005-2008 when there was still a chance to cheat the casino; now their equipment sees all the components of the computer and your every step.


Even if I had log in into my account from my friends/family member Wifi, it shouldnt be a reason to steal the funds.

you yourself admitted your mistake. Smiley
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
September 01, 2024, 04:16:59 AM
#16
I didn’t broke any rules. If you have any evidence of my unfair action just show it. I agree for it. Im pretty sure that you are just bluffing to not pay out my winnings.

I have nothing to hide. Even if I had log in into my account from my friends/family member Wifi, it shouldnt be a reason to steal the funds. I didnt provide any fake documents, all my details are real. If you dont want me to play in your Casino, its ok. Thast your right. But you can not steal me my funds.
I have been playing in many crypto casinos, and any of them not scammed me like that.
copper member
Activity: 28
Merit: 28
Founder @ shuffle.com
August 31, 2024, 03:27:20 AM
#15
Hey guys - won't be sharing identifying information, but can confirm beyond reasonable doubt that this player was multi-accounting and breaking ToS. Plenty of evidence for this, we wouldn't be taking action against a player unless we were absolutely sure their behaviour was abusive.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
August 30, 2024, 12:29:55 PM
#14
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If "SHUFFLE" can share data login section for the @OP account + all of their alternated account. Then, should be can address the issue to be solved and the rest just waiting the flow case based how the @OP gonna to responds into those response. But, I must agree rather than "SHUFFLE" mentioned only Multi Account and user will response "I'm not doing any multi account". It's better just dump the list account with section login, should be not hard at all.

There was a past case where a casino is willing to take this approach, prove the multi-acc by showing login credentials [partially, of course, as they still value privacy] to show the forum that they didn't wrongly accused player, they have basis and strong evidence, and they certainly didn't made that up.

It didn't end well, with the player denied the credential ownership that's being shown to public and made a whole lot of mess, IIRC, even tried to weaponize that fact to work into their favor, before they [accidentally and rather [un]fortunately] slipped, made a small contradictory statement that I unearthed and their scam attempt thwarted.

So, as past case told us, I don't think showing login credentials to public will be beneficial, not if that can be used by the player to twist and turn the event, to bent something to work into their favor.
legendary
Activity: 2660
Merit: 1261
August 29, 2024, 03:56:39 PM
#13
-snip-
Sportbetting sector is always tight.

Mostly the house will always take a look carefully at this sector with limitations of the amount and other terms & conditions for Sportbet. By the way, the provider machine casino can always share some information of the user section from other casinos (If the casino using the same provider) and the provider can notify the casino the player was breached or is doing some activity against the ruler/term & condition.

Usually, in the case (Sportbet) if the casino catches them before the player makes any bet profit or lose. They just can close the account and return the original deposit, If the player makes profit and withdraws more the money they're deposited but still have money left in the casino. Casino will closed your account, and claiming user has already withdrawn his deposit + some profit and the account is closed (no matter have money/fund in the account) and making a statement user make some activity against the term & condition.



If "SHUFFLE" can share data login section for the @OP account + all of their alternated account. Then, should be can address the issue to be solved and the rest just waiting the flow case based how the @OP gonna to responds into those response. But, I must agree rather than "SHUFFLE" mentioned only Multi Account and user will response "I'm not doing any multi account". It's better just dump the list account with section login, should be not hard at all.
hero member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 564
Bitcoin makes the world go 🔃
August 29, 2024, 11:33:38 AM
#12
Sorry for the trouble you're having, but to help others understand your allegation better, I will suggest that you add all of the supporting documentation to the original post and attempt to get in touch with the casino representative who is on this forum, as suggested by Little Mouse, the casino signature campaign manager.
This might be a mistake in the interim, though, as I don't see them ruining their reputation over a 15K tron.

Or maybe this user is indeed involved on multiple account violations since Shuffle has another airdrop for active users. It’s very rare for a casino especially popular one in the forum to accuse someone without a proof of connection between the multiple account connected.

There’s a lot of same case like this if you will browse the scam accusation board. Been playing on this casino before without experiencing same issue despite I have a bankroll greater than the amount involved here.

I hope that this is just a mistake for OP sake. But I already tired believing on this kind of narrative which cheater use the forum to gain support once they are caught.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
August 29, 2024, 11:22:35 AM
#11
Sorry for the trouble you're having, but to help others understand your allegation better, I will suggest that you add all of the supporting documentation to the original post and attempt to get in touch with the casino representative who is on this forum, as suggested by Little Mouse, the casino signature campaign manager.
This might be a mistake in the interim, though, as I don't see them ruining their reputation over a 15K tron.

He said sent, not send, as in he informed us that he has sent a PM to ndumm [Noah], notifying Shuffle about this and now we're waiting for them to get to the bottom of the situation and revert to us with a findings and/or to give their side.
member
Activity: 1165
Merit: 78
August 29, 2024, 11:05:38 AM
#10
Hey. This is how they take a look at my case.

https://imgur.com/a/HXV4Sdx

Instead of solve my issue they decide to send me an offensive messages. Radicolous! Their customer support is unbelievable low quality and rude. Not only this Lady, but Tommy and others as well. I can not believe that any credible casino can accept this kind of actions against their customers.
Strongly not recommend to play there!
Sorry for the trouble you're having, but to help others understand your allegation better, I will suggest that you add all of the supporting documentation to the original post and attempt to get in touch with the casino representative who is on this forum, as suggested by Little Mouse, the casino signature campaign manager.
This might be a mistake in the interim, though, as I don't see them ruining their reputation over a 15K tron.

newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
August 29, 2024, 10:02:17 AM
#9
Hey. This is how they take a look at my case.

https://imgur.com/a/HXV4Sdx

Instead of solve my issue they decide to send me an offensive messages. Radicolous! Their customer support is unbelievable low quality and rude. Not only this Lady, but Tommy and others as well. I can not believe that any credible casino can accept this kind of actions against their customers.
Strongly not recommend to play there!
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 2100
Marketing Campaign Manager |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse
August 27, 2024, 08:28:15 PM
#8
Sent Noah a DM. He will take a look into this.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
August 27, 2024, 02:53:50 PM
#7
No, I have never had an account there before. They are just searching excuses to not pay out.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
August 27, 2024, 12:07:18 PM
#6
I am adding proof of my conversations with their live chat and screen of pending withdrawal:
https://imgur.com/a/0OnhQ2O

Transferring them to talkimg for easier understanding,







Ahh well, as it turned out, it was their provider who detect the multi-acc possibility, from your betting pattern, and most likely than not, Shuffle also run a cross-check with several detection of their own before they made their ruling.

Did you previously have another account on their platform? One you previously had, forgotten the password and decided to create a new one instead of resetting them, perhaps?
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
August 27, 2024, 11:26:01 AM
#5
I am adding proof of my conversations with their live chat and screen of pending withdrawal:
https://imgur.com/a/0OnhQ2O
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
August 27, 2024, 10:56:01 AM
#4
As the two members already said above, kindly provide evidences to back up your claim [even if this thread only purposed to serve as a warning to other gamblers], otherwise the situation will, unfortunately, be perceived as invalid.

With proper evidence to proof there is a basis in your accusation, I'll try to reach their reps on this forum and see if we can get this resolved.
hero member
Activity: 952
Merit: 555
August 27, 2024, 10:31:52 AM
#3
OP i want you to get this straight, there is an expected way or format to use when you're trying to make a scam accusation report and file such, you can not just come here and be telling us stories on what happened and there were no proof to, you have to follow the required format and show evidence, moreover before you make any accusation, have you taken your time in knowing about their ToS or policy?.
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