It is not possible to eliminate price manipulation happening in the crypto-currencies trading market, I believe even in the stock trading market, there would also be a group of traders who are trying to manipulate the price of some stocks, as long as they are earning profits, they would just continue to do it, and the best way to fight against price manipulation on the trading market would be to hold on to all your crypto-currencies even when there is a huge price dip happening on the trading market.
Well said, I agree on you. Big groups or probably those big whales are now continuing their works as long as they have a profit to have. One thing that we can help to contribute in the market price movement just keep on holding we know that it is a part of volatile probably those whales are getting tired of they are doing now. In fact, this is a great opportunity for us to ride the market while it is down and wait when our profit was there. 
Topic: Sick and tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit!!! - page 20. (Read 22672 times)
Warning! Ranting ahead!
I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
This is normal if we are disappointed of what we want. Remember that not all of us will become successful in this technology. If you not make it here maybe on other investment you will succeed. Relax and enjoy life to the fullest. I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
It is not possible to eliminate price manipulation happening in the crypto-currencies trading market, I believe even in the stock trading market, there would also be a group of traders who are trying to manipulate the price of some stocks, as long as they are earning profits, they would just continue to do it, and the best way to fight against price manipulation on the trading market would be to hold on to all your crypto-currencies even when there is a huge price dip happening on the trading market.
Patience will always be the key brother in order for you to gain and earn, it will take time but I am sure it will be worth in so do not lose hope and always believe on it. Focus on the bright side and be optimistic, the market has been doing good for the passed weeks even though it is in dip. This is a great opportunity to invest more if you believe on it. Good Luck!
I really do not see why someone will even decide to pick the idea of ranting rather than picking the idea of learning. The problem with a lot of newbie is that they never learn and all they were just after anyway was not the future of what they are investing in and have no idea what they are investing in at all, except to just look for a quick way to want to get rich and because of that they just keep ranting and whining whenever the market is in a downtrend.Sorry to say that but this problem is applicable to anyone, not just newbies
There is an adage (sort of) which says that people rarely make the same mistake twice. It is thrice and more times. We all follow our mental patterns deeply engraved in the chemistry of our brains, which make us repeat the same mistakes over and over again. In retrospect, you often can not even believe that it was you. So it is not just about newbies or only about trading as it takes a lot of in-depth introspection and analysis (and sometimes even help of a professional) to get rid of our dangerous habits. It is said that we learn only the hard way, but in fact most people don't learn at all. In trading, such people eventually lose all and then go home in tears or rage feeling deceived, humiliated, worthless
I get your point but being this irritated about the price will get you no where. use this as your advantage and be more practical in investing. Invest what you can handle to loss.
Agree with you. It is no use being depressed about cryptocurrency bullshit. Istead of that, I think we should spend time to learn more about crypto and gain experience about it
Cryptocurrency price not depending on youtube. Price is depending on peoples supply and demand. Recent market condition is not good because people panic with fake news and some people think its good opportunity to collecting more coin with cheap price.
I think we should keep optimism on our portfolio because cryptomarket is not one day market.
I think we should keep optimism on our portfolio because cryptomarket is not one day market.
I think that the market can gain steam again once we're solving problems and creating real value for people, having farmers sell their product for bitcoin and then being able to use that bitcoin to buy farming equipment would be powerful.
I also love that especially to those small time farmers. The only bitcoin cannot give to them is the security of their store value. We know how bitcoin price works and for small time farmers that isn't good. The hardest thing bitcoin should solve is its price vulnerability.Do you really wanna see 50k within the year even if it means another huge crash that brings us back to 10k? I think what we're trying to build here transcends short term prices.
More people are taking advantage of this situation I can't personally blame them but when a newbie will come and was introduced to this scheme then their mindset will also be like this
Warning! Ranting ahead!
I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
If you saw something on youtube on how excited they are, is it because they were doing their vlogs and being excited is part of it. There's no positive news today and if you think you saw some positive news it might not be enough to make the market pump a bit.I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
The market today was down because of the FUD again and i think bitcoin will going to stop at $6000 this month.
There is no such thing as always prices should be green. You can see it in all trading sectors, maybe crypto is a little more volatile, but first lesson you need to learn when you started crypto trading should be ''risk''. If you haven't learned this before, learning in this way is your own mistake.
Warning! Ranting ahead!
I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
If you saw something on youtube on how excited they are, is it because they were doing their vlogs and being excited is part of it. There's no positive news today and if you think you saw some positive news it might not be enough to make the market pump a bit.I am getting really pissed at the state of the markets. Despite positive news, the market is still pissing blood. Why?
Tons of videos on YouTube over and over again and again, hyping the crap out of this or that coin, anticipating something. But what for. The prices are not moving up when they should be.
What is the point of being excited when market is being manipulated by the most despicable creatures on the planet who see themselves above everyone else.
From my point of view it looks like TPTB saw people getting rich and becoming independent and they couldn't allow so many wealthy individuals in society so they came up with a plan to end this.
If you look at prices you can see how prices hardly change anymore. Heck most of the time Bitcoin prices remain at 0.00! in the hour! Why because they probably set up their bots to pump and dump their coins based on market movement to keep the price the same to prevent people from making money. This isn't so impossible to be true you know.
Just set up some bots and millions worth of money and when ever market provides a hint of an improvement dump it, and when even it going bad pump it. Keeping the prices relatively stable.
I mean why on Earth would anybody in their right mind sell, or setup their bots to sell when positive news is everywhere. It just doesn't make sense. It just an evil behavior that is all.
The market today was down because of the FUD again and i think bitcoin will going to stop at $6000 this month.
It's okay to rant and complain about what is happening now in the crypto World. But, learn from the experts as well. You will notice that most of them are just patient because they know that this kind of situation is happening all the time. there's nothing new with it. Just be patient.
100%. And yet, everyone needs to diversify their risks. Now there are a lot of tools that allow us to earn even during the fall of the market. We should not be lazy and constantly learn.
It's okay to rant and complain about what is happening now in the crypto World. But, learn from the experts as well. You will notice that most of them are just patient because they know that this kind of situation is happening all the time. there's nothing new with it. Just be patient.
Yes sometimes cryto will not meet our expectations that's why we feel down. But we must not think it negatively just continue what we we started. We must learn it and improve it for the future.
A lot of people are feeling down because they were busy expecting what they could not get and all they care about most of the time is just how to get rich quickly and that affected their greedy minds and ended up doing things that are uncalled for when it comes to going all in while buying the peaks, thinking the market will just keep moving up. At the end of the day, these are the category of people that would end up becoming weak hands.Yeah, I can understand that downtrends can be boring sometimes, but how boring it gets is based on what you are looking at, as you can make it less boring by looking forward to more dips to even buy more for the long run, and that is even if you understand there is future potential anyway.
You do not have to be depressed because of the crash in the market at present. Look on the bright side and enjoy this moment of stability with bitcoin price. For a long time we have not have this low and controlled volatility. Also, know that every business us controlled by the big monies. It is not with cryptocurrency alone.
We can't blame the guy that maybe in reality they invested huge and lose it or maybe they expected to earn easy money without considering that investing in Crypto currency is very risky because the price is really unpredictable. Lets see if they change their mind if the crypto currency bullshit will bounce back before this year will end or we shall join them that we will leave this investment in dismay too by next year.
Yes sometimes cryto will not meet our expectations that's why we feel down. But we must not think it negatively just continue what we we started. We must learn it and improve it for the future.
I feel you sir, sometimes crypto is frustrating because of expectation and reality doesn't coincide all the time but all that circumstances are just normal in world of crypto currency because of the intangibles aspects that we are not full control of. Cryptocurrency is not for short-term venture but it's for long-term investments that needed time, effort and patience in order to enjoy the fruit of holding your assets as much as possible.
Patience will always be the key brother in order for you to gain and earn, it will take time but I am sure it will be worth in so do not lose hope and always believe on it. Focus on the bright side and be optimistic, the market has been doing good for the passed weeks even though it is in dip. This is a great opportunity to invest more if you believe on it. Good Luck!
I really do not see why someone will even decide to pick the idea of ranting rather than picking the idea of learning. The problem with a lot of newbie is that they never learn and all they were just after anyway was not the future of what they are investing in and have no idea what they are investing in at all, except to just look for a quick way to want to get rich and because of that they just keep ranting and whining whenever the market is in a downtrend.Sorry to say that but this problem is applicable to anyone, not just newbies
There is an adage (sort of) which says that people rarely make the same mistake twice. It is thrice and more times. We all follow our mental patterns deeply engraved in the chemistry of our brains, which make us repeat the same mistakes over and over again. In retrospect, you often can not even believe that it was you. So it is not just about newbies or only about trading as it takes a lot of in-depth introspection and analysis (and sometimes even help of a professional) to get rid of our dangerous habits. It is said that we learn only the hard way, but in fact most people don't learn at all. In trading, such people eventually lose all and then go home in tears or rage feeling deceived, humiliated, worthless
Just put the following in your head. Markets are not rational.
The positive news can draw in newcomers that would exchange fiat for crypto and thusly raise the price.
But of all the new people we could draw, a lot have already joined us and a lot of others simply think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme or whatever.
I think that the market can gain steam again once we're solving problems and creating real value for people, having farmers sell their product for bitcoin and then being able to use that bitcoin to buy farming equipment would be powerful. Creating second layer solutions to increase transaction throughput would be powerful. The market price itself rising creates illogical bull-runs.
Do you really wanna see 50k within the year even if it means another huge crash that brings us back to 10k? I think what we're trying to build here transcends short term prices.
Also if you truly believe in that conspiracy that would mean that there would be someone out there selling bitcoin below market value. If that was true they would just be throwing money away, and you could potentially pick that money up, either through investing in the exchange itself or even trading against them (being on the other end of their trades).
I don't believe that there is such a conspiracy.
Honestly I do not think the market is pissing blood. The market is sometimes red but sometimes it is green as well. People are sad and angry about bitcoin and other coins not being at their ATH levels anymore but if you take away late november and december of last year out you can clearly see that crypto is at its highest levels right now. The positive news can draw in newcomers that would exchange fiat for crypto and thusly raise the price.
But of all the new people we could draw, a lot have already joined us and a lot of others simply think that bitcoin is a ponzi scheme or whatever.
I think that the market can gain steam again once we're solving problems and creating real value for people, having farmers sell their product for bitcoin and then being able to use that bitcoin to buy farming equipment would be powerful. Creating second layer solutions to increase transaction throughput would be powerful. The market price itself rising creates illogical bull-runs.
Do you really wanna see 50k within the year even if it means another huge crash that brings us back to 10k? I think what we're trying to build here transcends short term prices.
Also if you truly believe in that conspiracy that would mean that there would be someone out there selling bitcoin below market value. If that was true they would just be throwing money away, and you could potentially pick that money up, either through investing in the exchange itself or even trading against them (being on the other end of their trades).
I don't believe that there is such a conspiracy.
Except for one month at the end of 2017 right now we are seeing the biggest prices we can hope. Also for months bitcoin has been going up and down, it is not going down only, it sometimes goes up too. Just last week we have seen ripple going 60%+ and others followed a bit too.
Markets themselves are rational but people aren't. Markets simply operate of supply and demand. You're so right in what you say however, we don't need another big speculative bubble, slow and steady growth is what we need. These large pumps and then harsh bubble explosions are bad for development and adoption and long-term only hurt bitcoin.
Er... I beg to disagree
What are markets if not just an aggregate of people trading there? Markets are reflecting the sentiment of the crowd there and can be just as irrational. As my favorite saying goes (ascribed to John Keynes), markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. It means basically two things. First, that the markets can be irrational (which is kinda obvious), and, second, that they can stay that way indefinitely long. And it makes perfect sense since if they were in fact as rational as you claim, making money there would be a pushover (which it is not). Just because you have an equation as in supply equaling demand at a certain price doesn't mean that the parts of the equation are as straightforward, logical, and determined
you don not need to sick or tired of the cryptocurrency bullshit because you must have knowledge about cryptocurrency before joining crypto world. There will be nothing much to think about bull shit. Let it be.
If he likes, he can get sick, tired or even puke on us all, it is his call. At this stage, if people are still investing out of greed and not because they see something in the future, then they are just full of shit and bollocks as far as I am concerned. Patience is one thing people like this can never have because they never got in because they believed in the future and they only saw an avenue to quickly make money, hear all the bullshits they want to hear, invest into FOMO while waiting for the moon and then we see them being pushed out by the whales who know people like them exist.
It is their call at this stage if they do not want to get wise. Like they usually say common sense is not generally common anyway.
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