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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
December 04, 2023, 07:11:35 PM
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Don't you know that signature campaign can be abolish in this forum and bitcointalk will continue to exist, because I know quite well that what interests people much to the forum is the signature campaign advert that fetching people money, so let us not concentrate much on signature campaign because as theymos ban mixers it can happen one day that signature campaign be terminate, the aspect of if the signature campaign can be supportive to other social media except bitcointalk, yes, and it can happen only if the social media make a provision of display of signature campaign, so that's what I really want us to understand about it. And besides I have been hearing that theirs other places that support signature campaign.

You are correct, but many people earn a living doing those campaigns and it did spread BTC around the world.

So it is a true hit if they end the signatures entirely.
legendary
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I remember in the 2000s (and probably earlier) there were online marketing forums where you could rent signatures and "forum posts" (with links to the advertised shops). I however don't remember their name, as I never participated in one of these campaigns, but rather stumbled upon these forums when searching for online marketing tips.

It was different compared to Bitcointalk in that you made the deal in the online marketing forum, or on a freelancer site, but then you would display your signature in another forums. So basically it was more similar to the "external" bounties section here at Bitcointalk (where you can earn for social media campaigns, for example). If I remember correctly, it was better if you were registered and add your signature to several forums. And only a part of these forums were amused about that phenomenon, many banned paids signatures eventually. Other forums developed "programs" like premium accounts where for example store owners could present their stores.
hero member
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Don't you know that signature campaign can be abolish in this forum and bitcointalk will continue to exist, because I know quite well that what interests people much to the forum is the signature campaign advert that fetching people money, so let us not concentrate much on signature campaign because as theymos ban mixers it can happen one day that signature campaign be terminate, the aspect of if the signature campaign can be supportive to other social media except bitcointalk, yes, and it can happen only if the social media make a provision of display of signature campaign, so that's what I really want us to understand about it. And besides I have been hearing that theirs other places that support signature campaign.
sr. member
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The only site that I have seen something like this are altcoinstalks.com, and this Russians forum, cryptotalk.org. Both sites copied it on this forum. Signature campaign started on this forum.

Loads of SMF are coming up with the copied version of bitcointalk forum. They have signatures embedded into their SMF but no credits whatsoever to bitcointalk, which happens to be the originator of the idea.

I also didn't know it was invented firstly in bitcointalk forum.

It has become a major spice to the forum and rewarding people globally. It is worth our applause.
Bitcointalk deserves more than our applause but rounds of it. I've been surfing the internet since 2001/2002, and till the time that signature is being embedded beneath each post here started, there was no single forum or any social media platform that was doing it. All you would see are adverts, nothing more.

This forum is creative and intuitive for people, and the reason is that they do not want to be making money but giving back to society. It got to a point that the forum included their ads and the signature for both the users and the forum itself to earn money. This later stopped and the users only earned through the signature and this is indeed a selfless service.

All I see is that it's all about the people here not the management of the forum at all, unlike what other forums are doing where the management gets all the money without paying a dime to the users in most cases.


I deeply appreciate your depth of expansion as there were still vague points I battles with.

In all honesty, this forum is about the people and not the staff or management. I moderated an SMF and I know how it was carved and to what purpose.
Once again, I commend your depth of research and the information shared.
hero member
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The only site that I have seen something like this are altcoinstalks.com, and this Russians forum, cryptotalk.org. Both sites copied it on this forum. Signature campaign started on this forum.

Loads of SMF are coming up with the copied version of bitcointalk forum. They have signatures embedded into their SMF but no credits whatsoever to bitcointalk, which happens to be the originator of the idea.

I also didn't know it was invented firstly in bitcointalk forum.

It has become a major spice to the forum and rewarding people globally. It is worth our applause.
Bitcointalk deserves more than our applause but rounds of it. I've been surfing the internet since 2001/2002, and till the time that signature is being embedded beneath each post here started, there was no single forum or any social media platform that was doing it. All you would see are adverts, nothing more.

This forum is creative and intuitive for people, and the reason is that they do not want to be making money but giving back to society. It got to a point that the forum included their ads and the signature for both the users and the forum itself to earn money. This later stopped and the users only earned through the signature and this is indeed a selfless service.

All I see is that it's all about the people here not the management of the forum at all, unlike what other forums are doing where the management gets all the money without paying a dime to the users in most cases.
legendary
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The only site that I have seen something like this are altcoinstalks.com, and this Russians forum, cryptotalk.org. Both sites copied it on this forum. Signature campaign started on this forum.

Loads of SMF are coming up with the copied version of bitcointalk forum. They have signatures embedded into their SMF but no credits whatsoever to bitcointalk, which happens to be the originator of the idea.

I also didn't know it was invented firstly in bitcointalk forum.

It has become a major spice to the forum and rewarding people globally. It is worth our applause.

If you read not only the first post in the topic you'd guess how ridiculous you look when you say something, which revealed untrue multiple times during the thread discussion.

Signature function was added to different forum scripts for decades and definitely before Bitcointalk even first appaered.

But you are not really interested in the topic, right? Otherwise you'd read what was discussed here. Undecided
sr. member
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The only site that I have seen something like this are altcoinstalks.com, and this Russians forum, cryptotalk.org. Both sites copied it on this forum. Signature campaign started on this forum.

Loads of SMF are coming up with the copied version of bitcointalk forum. They have signatures embedded into their SMF but no credits whatsoever to bitcointalk, which happens to be the originator of the idea.

I also didn't know it was invented firstly in bitcointalk forum.

It has become a major spice to the forum and rewarding people globally. It is worth our applause.

legendary
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We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.
Wow, I guess sig campaigns aren't as new a concept as I thought!  I am probably far more shocked by that fact than my written words are conveying in this thread; it would seem like more forums would implement them, since they offer advertising space to manufacturers/whoever and at least a small amount of income to forum participants.  They benefit everyone as far as I can see, and the only real drawback is the one that's plagued bitcointalk, i.e., that incentivized posting leads to a lot of crappy, off-topic, low-value posts.

And that was prior to 2000, eh?  Wow.

Yes, signatures were not what we are seeing here but closer to:

Code:
Visit BanditZone supplies for all your Suzuki Bandit needs. http://www.banditzone.com/davef

The cheating accusations on both sides were insane.
Checks not being sent, commissions not being paid and so on, on one side.
On the other you had people putting their links all over the place and since it WAS a way different internet 25+ years ago the crap posting was beyond bad.

-Dave
legendary
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We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.
Wow, I guess sig campaigns aren't as new a concept as I thought!  I am probably far more shocked by that fact than my written words are conveying in this thread; it would seem like more forums would implement them, since they offer advertising space to manufacturers/whoever and at least a small amount of income to forum participants.  They benefit everyone as far as I can see, and the only real drawback is the one that's plagued bitcointalk, i.e., that incentivized posting leads to a lot of crappy, off-topic, low-value posts.

And that was prior to 2000, eh?  Wow.

I think that in some countries around the world, since 1995 - when mass use of the Internet began, it was easy to find models in which users could be compensated. In some cases, it was enough to create a small website and make money by inviting local merchants to have a banner on the website.

Some of us live in countries that are less suited to these technologies, or we were very young, and that's why we weren't able to take advantage of this moment. (Some weren't even born yet.)
legendary
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We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.
Wow, I guess sig campaigns aren't as new a concept as I thought!  I am probably far more shocked by that fact than my written words are conveying in this thread; it would seem like more forums would implement them, since they offer advertising space to manufacturers/whoever and at least a small amount of income to forum participants.  They benefit everyone as far as I can see, and the only real drawback is the one that's plagued bitcointalk, i.e., that incentivized posting leads to a lot of crappy, off-topic, low-value posts.

And that was prior to 2000, eh?  Wow.
legendary
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I am like you.

parts-express
andantech
macrumors
macmini 123

all did not let you sell your signature.
I made thousands of posts on those forums. maybe 15000 on them.

I did a lot of mac mini sales on mac mini 123.
a few sales on andantech.

 I don’t do a lot of signature work here. maybe 2 years out of  11. But it comes in handy if you get a bit tight on cash.

Of those you mentioned, the only one I didn't know was parts-express
These forums have helped me a lot too
But it's amazing to think that even with so many years of participating in forums, I had never thought about the possibility of renting/selling a signature

A few years ago when forums were more popular, and if the moderators/owners of the forums allowed it, I think hardware stores could pay for the best users to promote them
But as I said, I didn't think about that possibility

I've seen you with 2 signature that I remember before, the most recent one from TalkImg, and another one that I don't remember which one, but I don't think it was a paid one

The signature campaigns here on the forum become very interesting when the payments equal or exceed a salary of the country where the user lives, for the US or most of Europe it is good but for other countries it is a very high value



I am grateful that there is a signature campaign as it is helping me out during this tight time for mining.

Yeah BTC and bitcointalk has been quite a trip for myself.

I think it's a almost win win situation
Of course, it generates some spam or unnecessary/excessive posts, but it also brings activity to the forum, it's a reward that helps to keep good users here, help them (like you said right now)
It also generates cryptocurrency traffic, new users and a few other good things

Another very interesting thing is that cryptos are essential to this system, the campaigns capture the essence of cryptos very well, of being able to pay someone living in another country, without intermediaries, without excessive fees and with privacy/anonymity if the user wants it
hero member
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So, apart from here in bitcointalk, has any other forum or website adopted the signature campaign system of advertisement?
Yes, there is one forum I was once about that adopted a signature campaign advertisement system but it seems to stop at some point.
Bitcointalk appear to be the only forum that is successful in the signature marketing area due to the forum being the harness for new and old crypto-related business to announce their establishment, advertisements, etc. I could remember Binance once hard their bounty campaign here.


Does theymos have a patent for signature campaign such that no other forum can replicate what is happening here without his permission.
No. I think the reputation of this forumwhich is built on community-driven and the legacy of Satoshi is what makes it impossible for any other forum to replicate what Bitcointalk is doing.
full member
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Of a real note, this forum and its signature campaigns has done more than provide a source of earning passively or majorly where a regular job has failed and has done more to make of us the campaigners worthy ambassadors of Bitcoin and the cryptocurrencies movement which is of the present and the future. I doubt other crypto currencies have a forum like this with a signature campaign to be a means of passive income rather than upgrading the features to fit traders and investors alike.
legendary
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What makes Bitcointalk unique, is the level of freedom we get. Of course, it also helps that the forum owns $40M. Most other forums rely on advertising, and advertising in signatures would compete with the forum's own income. Bitcointalk doesn't have that problem.
I was supposed to be surprised about signature campaigns not being a thing that's started here in the forum but then I've read that this forum owns 40 million USD, talk about surprises. I do know that there's a lot of donators in the forum and that it's around a million at least but what I didn't know was this is the amount, are they all from donators to the forum though? And what are these insane amount of money used for?

It seems like a lot today, but at the time the forum started it was very little.
10 years ago, a donor, especially miners, could easily donate 10BTC. Imagine if only 50 people donated that amount to the forum 10 years ago.

Well, I think you understand how today the forum has a lot of money available to keep it running.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I am grateful that there is a signature campaign as it is helping me out during this tight time for mining.

Yeah BTC and bitcointalk has been quite a trip for myself.
hero member
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Bitcointalk is the first forum I have seen and stated my signature campaign journey. I have not seen and heard about any other forum that use signature campaign till now. I have only advertised things on social media like Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram. So when I came here and the first campaign I joined wiz.io and it took me almost 2 days to wear the signature and when I became a full member, to wear the avatar was a problem to wear the personal text was another drama. All because I don't know where to go and placed them in their proper positions. So historically from end Bitcointalk is my first forum till now I don't know any other one.
legendary
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Going back to pre Y2K days I had a paid signature on a motorcycle forum.
And this was before PayPal was even a thing for online payments. We actually got mailed checks every couple of months, had to fill on a W-9 (tax form) and got a 1099 (tax form) at the end of the year.

Then PayPal came and it all went nuts for a while.

-Dave
sr. member
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What makes Bitcointalk unique, is the level of freedom we get. Of course, it also helps that the forum owns $40M. Most other forums rely on advertising, and advertising in signatures would compete with the forum's own income. Bitcointalk doesn't have that problem.
I was supposed to be surprised about signature campaigns not being a thing that's started here in the forum but then I've read that this forum owns 40 million USD, talk about surprises. I do know that there's a lot of donators in the forum and that it's around a million at least but what I didn't know was this is the amount, are they all from donators to the forum though? And what are these insane amount of money used for?
legendary
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I was not here years ago but thinking deeply and logically, I believe people who did this probably for two main purposes.

To help Bitcoin increases its exposure to more people, then help Bitcoin adoption.
To help their business gets access to a new potential customer population.

Who did it years ago actually did not think too much about how far Bitcoin can go and how big effects from their signature campaigns for their business.

Yes, no one had any idea of the proportions this would have in the future.

But, at the time, it was undoubtedly an excellent gateway - at low cost, to advertise new services linked to this market and beyond.

hero member
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I believe that the popularity that signature campaigns gained on the forum was due to the fact that at the time they appeared, almost no money was really spent on advertising.

Paying 0.001 per post was almost the same as what you would earn in half a dozen clicks on a faucet. In turn, obtaining Bitcoin was not extremely difficult. With a few hours/days of mining on your PC at home, you could earn enough BTC to pay for several weeks of advertising.

Anyway, as the focus was on circulating BTC, people did not do this for the sake of money/value gained, but rather to obtain more BTC. This makes this model grow together with the community, and ends up becoming an incredible advertising model in this forum and almost unique.
I was not here years ago but thinking deeply and logically, I believe people who did this probably for two main purposes.

To help Bitcoin increases its exposure to more people, then help Bitcoin adoption.
To help their business gets access to a new potential customer population.

Who did it years ago actually did not think too much about how far Bitcoin can go and how big effects from their signature campaigns for their business.
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