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Topic: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts. (Read 680 times)

legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 2100
Marketing Campaign Manager |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse
@YOSHIE
I can't see negative DT tag on these profile you shared. May be you are using custom trust list and have added these persons in your trust list, or somebody from your trust list has added these persons in their trust list.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 711
Telegram @tokensfund
Apparently, the new manager @ SlotsCryptoMania, also violates its own campaign rules. Trouble again.

Both of the user's feedback is neutral. They didn't receive any feedback from DT members.

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=HatakeKakashi

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=numanoid


legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
Apparently, the new manager @ SlotsCryptoMania, also violates its own campaign rules. Trouble again.

Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52553456

http://archive.is/6KheD

Pay close attention to the rules made.

Rules and Requirements:

-Only constructive post will be counted.

-Negative trusts members can’t join the campaign.


Proof:



trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=808431

@HatakeKakashi



trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=333524

@numanoid

Look what he said.

Yes  and we are very strict to accept participants now.

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I see from BPIP, Black.

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Yes, maybe, you can't, but let it go.
I give what I see.
copper member
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1822
Top Crypto Casino
What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.
Very suspicious and probable alt if i may say.

If it was the real owner as they claim. They would be so concerned about the reputation, and so they would probably have joined the discussion in this thread and tried to tell people about their way forward even before abruptly creating a new thread.

Also, I am wondering what they are going to do to the people who were already participating. What about they pay for the time they have spent advertising their business?
copper member
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1901
Amazon Prime Member #7
A new account is created, SlotsCryptoMania, today.

Old thread was locked and content was deleted https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52468510

And a new Signature campaign thread was created https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closedcryptomania-slots-signature-campaign-5187424

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
The 1st Signature Campaign Thread was deleted. This will be the new one. We are now again Open for all ranks and we will only accept good quality posters.

What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.

bakkang was banned this past spring. It is possible this was done out of fear of getting banned for ban evasion.

He is accepting people that generally make really bad posts, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he is the same person.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
It's quite likely that they're still using Dontme as campaign manager, just under a new alt now, in my opinion. It's highly unlikely that the handover to any new campaign would be this smooth and unannounced, and happen within such a short period of time.

He said this and answered.

My Apologies to all of the old participants that I can’t inform everyone of you. I just told Dontme to delete it right away and I will manage it now. So, I am carefully accepting a new participants now that are good at quality post.

I will see the development of the campaign, if later on I find irregularities, lies, deception.
I will report it.
hero member
Activity: 1666
Merit: 753
CryptoMania should be able to answer it (or maybe theymos with the IP log data). But it seems like DontMe has managed their ANN thread, and possibly their communications on this forum. I guess they trusted DontMe.
What bugs me the most is that there's even no warning that they would be changing "managers"/"accounts" in the old thread. This is the last post in the old thread before it was locked. Definitely not a warning message. Just out of the blue. Contacting the site would be ideal.

Contacting the site wouldn't yield anything probably since they would probably have vested interest not to tell the truth.

Anyhow, I don't really see a problem with participating in the campaign itself (if you are willing to take on the risk of non-payment), or any wrongdoing on the website's behalf per se. It's solely the reputation of Dontme that is at stake here.
copper member
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1280
https://linktr.ee/crwthopia
CryptoMania should be able to answer it (or maybe theymos with the IP log data). But it seems like DontMe has managed their ANN thread, and possibly their communications on this forum. I guess they trusted DontMe.
What bugs me the most is that there's even no warning that they would be changing "managers"/"accounts" in the old thread. This is the last post in the old thread before it was locked. Definitely not a warning message. Just out of the blue. Contacting the site would be ideal.
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1789
What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.

CryptoMania should be able to answer it (or maybe theymos with the IP log data). But it seems like DontMe has managed their ANN thread, and possibly their communications on this forum. I guess they trusted DontMe.

So, either sent them an e-mail or ask on Telegram.
copper member
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1280
https://linktr.ee/crwthopia
A new account is created, SlotsCryptoMania, today.

Old thread was locked and content was deleted https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52468510

And a new Signature campaign thread was created https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closedcryptomania-slots-signature-campaign-5187424

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
The 1st Signature Campaign Thread was deleted. This will be the new one. We are now again Open for all ranks and we will only accept good quality posters.

What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.
hero member
Activity: 1778
Merit: 764
www.V.systems
I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

Overused rhetoric of alt account being a relative.

At the least, you are guilty of enrolling a family relative to smooch off the project that already employed you. Shame on you.

Don't you know it is unethical for projects to employ their own employees and their related family in a bounty / reward program (which is what every signature campaign is essentially?)

It is even forbidden by law in some places.



I know my tag is not worth it, because I am not on DT and not many people have me in their trust list. But it is better than nothing. Please do not message me to remove this tag.
copper member
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1280
https://linktr.ee/crwthopia
The person you quoted also acknowledged payments were made.
Is it me you are talking about? I did say that they got paid assuming that the participants didn't complain, as simple as that, but having actual proof that the transaction happened, I don't have that. I don't know if there's a way unless the manager deliberately shares the transactions. All of it. Making sure that it's on the correct timestamps as well.



Dontme is clearly not accepting the most qualified candidates into his signature campaign. I applied for his CryptoMania campaign, was not accepted, and looking at who was accepted, I was passed over for multiple people with no merit received.  
I did notice this while I was scrolling in the page of the CryptoMania thread. There are a lot of usernames that I was familiar but skipped on it. It's like they purposefully accepted the ones that they like or have a connection to.
legendary
Activity: 3094
Merit: 1472
My accusation is correct, accepting his Alt, Alt account.
Cheat:


2 Accounts Connected:

1. bakkang
2. Prettyme

Nice work Yoshie!!. I will start tagging all the accounts listed.


I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

What would you do if someone in your campaign has multiple accounts and after getting caught gives excuse : "Oh he was my cousin brother/sister.. or whatever"? Would you believe him?

Guess we need to modify rule: "One account each household" maybe just like casinos.  Cheesy

copper member
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1822
Top Crypto Casino
I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.
Nobody is gonna believe the "cousin" excuse even if it were true. Multiple times users who have ever been caught cheating with alts have always used the same excuse of cousin, spouse, siblings to save their skins.
You have to look for another way of proving your accounts are not alts
copper member
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1901
Amazon Prime Member #7
Dontme is clearly not accepting the most qualified candidates into his signature campaign. I applied for his CryptoMania campaign, was not accepted, and looking at who was accepted, I was passed over for multiple people with no merit received. 
sr. member
Activity: 798
Merit: 255

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it.

So you want to prove that you send payment to your alts?

Prove us -

1. The accounts listed are not connected with you.

2. Prettyme is not your alt account.



I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 711
Telegram @tokensfund

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it.

So you want to prove that you send payment to your alts?

Prove us -

1. The accounts listed are not connected with you.

2. Prettyme is not your alt account.


sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 301
I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.

It looks like it. Here is one of the comments in our local board where majority are coinsph users.

...hindi coins.ph to coins.ph ang transfer para maipost na din ang transaction ID for reference ng loan just incase meron hindi magbayad madali mapulahan
Actually kahit coins.ph to coins.ph makikita yun sa blockchain and maipopost din ang transaction ID... Once na posted na sya click mo lang yung transaction details then lalabas na dun ng TXID



And just in case na PESO to PESO... may reference ID din si coins.ph.
Just a Reminder: Makipagtransact lang po tayo dun sa Verified User ni Coins.ph...


Actually, the transaction can still be seen on the blockchain even if its coinsph to coinsph and you can still post the transaction ID....Once posted, just click transaction details then the TXID will appear. (tried my best with the translation)




@Dontme how about following the guide from cabalism13 (see above) to show the payment transactions from coins.ph and update the spreadsheet? This may settle the non-payment issue.
sr. member
Activity: 798
Merit: 255
I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.
Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it. You are free to ask conis.ph services and I can surely tell this. I paid the participants right and the payment was sent on their wallet successfully.
hero member
Activity: 2156
Merit: 711
Telegram @tokensfund
I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.
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