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Quote from: crafty on April 24, 2018, 02:56:08 PM

Quote from: DevelopmentBank on April 24, 2018, 07:37:33 AM

There are many ways for the school administrators or network admins will find out what you're up to. As a masters student, don't risk wasting your education. Just mine at home and avoid the hassle of dealing with the repercussions. Mind you, mining without paying for electricity is stealing. Stealing is a crime.

Very well said. Ask yourself if you want to risk your education for a little money.

Sry I'm a piece of shit ;_;

Quote from: whitefire990 on April 24, 2018, 08:57:26 PM

I will soon be releasing a number of free bitstreams to mine with FPGA's with better ROI's than GPU's, and if you want silent mining you can use the Nexys Video card (XC7A200T FPGA). Be warned, you can only mine Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) and SHA-224 (Bismuth) profitably, but the card draws minimal power, needs no fan, costs $490, and makes around $2.11 per day at today's prices which is more than many GPU's.

Holy shit that's nice. Any more tips about that?

Quote from: namjey on April 24, 2018, 10:04:08 PM

you can easily silent mine. I have fractal define XL case with 2 gtx1080 and it is soooo quite. But I had to cut the power limit to 61% Embarrassed

NICE bro, that's i wanted to see here, someone with real experience in this.

how's your hash rate and profit?

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Quote from: HardwareCollector on April 25, 2018, 05:20:56 PM

Quote from: whitefire990 on April 25, 2018, 03:03:05 PM

Quote from: Bitmarioscoins on April 25, 2018, 02:31:15 PM

Quote from: whitefire990 on April 24, 2018, 08:57:26 PM

I will soon be releasing a number of free bitstreams to mine with FPGA's with better ROI's than GPU's, and if you want silent mining you can use the Nexys Video card (XC7A200T FPGA). Be warned, you can only mine Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) and SHA-224 (Bismuth) profitably, but the card draws minimal power, needs no fan, costs $490, and makes around $2.11 per day at today's prices which is more than many GPU's.

What miner are you using with your FPGA? How many watts does it use?

Nexys video ($490) burns around 15W, makes around $2 per day; Avnet KU040 ($975) board burns around 30W, makes $7-$18/day, Xilinx VCU1525 & Bittware XUPP3R ($3995-$5895) burn 80-175W and make $25-$120 per day depending on the algorithm. I programmed the FPGA's myself and forked an open source CPUMiner build and adapted it to communicate with the FPGA's. I'm planning on releasing the bitstreams in around 4-6 weeks.

Would you please allow PMs from newbies, I have some questions to ask about these FPGAs. You mentioned in one of your posts that you are doing Groestl at 1.95GH/s with a VU9P FPGA, what are you getting for SHA256d?

I modded my profile to allow PM's from newbies. VU9P does SHA-224/256 at 10GH/s, which is useless for bitcoin but profitable for Bismuth (SHA-224). Not sure why you would even want to do SHA-256.

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Quote from: whitefire990 on April 25, 2018, 03:03:05 PM

Quote from: Bitmarioscoins on April 25, 2018, 02:31:15 PM

Quote from: whitefire990 on April 24, 2018, 08:57:26 PM

I will soon be releasing a number of free bitstreams to mine with FPGA's with better ROI's than GPU's, and if you want silent mining you can use the Nexys Video card (XC7A200T FPGA). Be warned, you can only mine Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) and SHA-224 (Bismuth) profitably, but the card draws minimal power, needs no fan, costs $490, and makes around $2.11 per day at today's prices which is more than many GPU's.

What miner are you using with your FPGA? How many watts does it use?

Nexys video ($490) burns around 15W, makes around $2 per day; Avnet KU040 ($975) board burns around 30W, makes $7-$18/day, Xilinx VCU1525 & Bittware XUPP3R ($3995-$5895) burn 80-175W and make $25-$120 per day depending on the algorithm. I programmed the FPGA's myself and forked an open source CPUMiner build and adapted it to communicate with the FPGA's. I'm planning on releasing the bitstreams in around 4-6 weeks.

Would you please allow PMs from newbies, I have some questions to ask about these FPGAs. You mentioned in one of your posts that you are doing Groestl at 1.95GH/s with a VU9P FPGA, what are you getting for SHA256d?

whitefire990

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Quote from: Bitmarioscoins on April 25, 2018, 02:31:15 PM

Quote from: whitefire990 on April 24, 2018, 08:57:26 PM

I will soon be releasing a number of free bitstreams to mine with FPGA's with better ROI's than GPU's, and if you want silent mining you can use the Nexys Video card (XC7A200T FPGA). Be warned, you can only mine Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) and SHA-224 (Bismuth) profitably, but the card draws minimal power, needs no fan, costs $490, and makes around $2.11 per day at today's prices which is more than many GPU's.

What miner are you using with your FPGA? How many watts does it use?

Nexys video ($490) burns around 15W, makes around $2 per day; Avnet KU040 ($975) board burns around 30W, makes $7-$18/day, Xilinx VCU1525 & Bittware XUPP3R ($3995-$5895) burn 80-175W and make $25-$120 per day depending on the algorithm. I programmed the FPGA's myself and forked an open source CPUMiner build and adapted it to communicate with the FPGA's. I'm planning on releasing the bitstreams in around 4-6 weeks.

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Quote from: whitefire990 on April 24, 2018, 08:57:26 PM

I will soon be releasing a number of free bitstreams to mine with FPGA's with better ROI's than GPU's, and if you want silent mining you can use the Nexys Video card (XC7A200T FPGA). Be warned, you can only mine Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) and SHA-224 (Bismuth) profitably, but the card draws minimal power, needs no fan, costs $490, and makes around $2.11 per day at today's prices which is more than many GPU's.

What miner are you using with your FPGA? How many watts does it use?

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Not a great idea, you could be expelled.
You want a silent case? Go hydro, I mean liquid cooling.
And if you can shell out the cash then maybe try some Nzxt cases or the Obsidian Series or the deep silence cases. But mind you, they're all pricey.

You'd ideally want to reduce any rattle the moving parts make. DIY solution, loosen the screws & stick a small flat layer of eraser in there and tighten the screws. Instant silence.

albertorm2

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Mine monero or sumokoin. They have energy efficient algorithms, which means no heat.

Also remember to bios mod your gpus

30% fan should be enough

Edit: Consider getting vega gpu, they are better on all cryptonight algos.

namjey

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you can easily silent mine. I have fractal define XL case with 2 gtx1080 and it is soooo quite. But I had to cut the power limit to 61% Embarrassed

Mohondoa

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Sorry, i think you can not mining in silent. Because what as i know, mining need powerful rig if you want get more income. But if you need just for education, its okay you run silent mining.

whitefire990

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I will soon be releasing a number of free bitstreams to mine with FPGA's with better ROI's than GPU's, and if you want silent mining you can use the Nexys Video card (XC7A200T FPGA). Be warned, you can only mine Keccak (Smartcash, Maxcoin) and SHA-224 (Bismuth) profitably, but the card draws minimal power, needs no fan, costs $490, and makes around $2.11 per day at today's prices which is more than many GPU's.

dudezt

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thanks for the answers guys, I'm currently doing some stuff but I'm going to reply soon

smoolae

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Silent mining is ez, basically you have 2 options:

1) Watercool your rig so that the radiator is placed outside of your room (I'm using this solution with my reference R9 290 cards). Only PSU and CPU fans are making noise. (May add pics later)
2) Submerse your cards in mineral oil. This will provide you with almost 0dB solution but your GPUs will be SOAKED in oil (very hard to clean off later, also some plastic parts will corrode away/become extremely fragile).

Wotan Wipeout

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Silent mining is possible.

Take 6 x 1050ti KalmX, PCI-E Powered Riser, a nice power supply and 3 low noise fans.
For the CPU (G4400T or some others) you should take the arctic alpine 11.

Each 1050ti KalmX needs 66 Watt, but depends on the coin.

You will have to deal with 400-500 Watt Heat....

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Quote from: DevelopmentBank on April 24, 2018, 07:37:33 AM

There are many ways for the school administrators or network admins will find out what you're up to. As a masters student, don't risk wasting your education. Just mine at home and avoid the hassle of dealing with the repercussions. Mind you, mining without paying for electricity is stealing. Stealing is a crime.

Very well said. Ask yourself if you want to risk your education for a little money.

WaffleMaster

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Worth the trouble, probably not. Although the free electricity is definitely an advantage. The trouble is not in building the rig and making it silent, it is if somebody from the University finds out you're "stealing" electricity for profit because you're mining cryptocurrency. I'd say that risk alone is certainly not worth it.

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Noise is very relative here.

For some a RX 470 can be silent and for others noisy.

For some an Antminer S3 can be noisy and for others quiet.

If you want it to be as silent as possible only way is to get a water cooled setup. However that takes up tons of space.

However water is the best way to remove heat, since it has excellent thermal properties.

bitlonia

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I never tried such, so can't say, but not in doubt of its possibility.

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Quote from: rigproxy.com on April 24, 2018, 07:15:18 AM

Quote from: Geraldo on April 24, 2018, 06:50:10 AM

Quote from: rigproxy.com on April 24, 2018, 06:33:15 AM

He said "of course I don't want people to know I'm mining there".
So he wants to mine stealthily without being discovered by others or university network admin.

-snip-

The VPN will indeed increase the latency affecting the time to get job, time to deliver share and also time to restore connection if your ISP network quality is bad. So more stale share probability I confirm.
Assuming the university has probably a good connection to internet and considering the will of OP to keep its mining rig secret, I could only encourage him to use a VPN despite the counterpart of latency (because of a longer network route and the VPN transport layer added over TCP/IP), risk of more stale shares, ....

Rigproxy.com is not a VPN solution but a proxy. When you go through a VPN (online pro service, or at home with RPI/linux) or any other tunneling solution, the admin can only see your VPN target IP.
If you connect directly to Rigproxy, the network admin may know that you are mining so using rigproxy won't help for privacy and was never made for this purpose.

Ah, I thought there was something new on VPN using, while mining. So, that was only for hiding us. It may relate to OP's condition that wants to be a silent miner.

OP
How about the room size, by the way? Those two cards are more than enough to heat a small room. 12 desks, right? Maybe 13 with you, seem like isn't too small. I'm sure people near you can feel it. Day by day more heated than usual. Grin

Did you plan to run it 24/7?

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Quote from: DevelopmentBank on April 24, 2018, 07:37:33 AM

There are many ways for the school administrators or network admins will find out what you're up to. As a masters student, don't risk wasting your education. Just mine at home and avoid the hassle of dealing with the repercussions. Mind you, mining without paying for electricity is stealing. Stealing is a crime.

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There are many ways for the school administrators or network admins will find out what you're up to. As a masters student, don't risk wasting your education. Just mine at home and avoid the hassle of dealing with the repercussions. Mind you, mining without paying for electricity is stealing. Stealing is a crime.

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