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Quote from: molecular on July 25, 2012, 03:56:13 PM

I don't think a redesign of the site will mean increased influx of new users.

I'm all for improvement, but this won't tap any new userbase. It's not like you happen to see this awesomely designed silkroad page by some accident and then do business on it because it's so pretty. It's also not like you want to order some drugs and are then driven off by a crappy design.

I think when something looks professional the feeling while ordering there changes(less criminal) and this will increase user amounts, not very quickly at first, but gradually the userbase will grow and people will tell friends more quickly about the site.

Check for example http://www.aromaticpowder.com/
The site doesn't really look shady, but it's still offering chemicals for ingestion(although they are legal in some countries and they state their products are not for human consumption). This changes user experience.

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Quote from: molecular on July 25, 2012, 03:56:13 PM

I don't think a redesign of the site will mean increased influx of new users.

I'm all for improvement, but this won't tap any new userbase. It's not like you happen to see this awesomely designed silkroad page by some accident and then do business on it because it's so pretty. It's also not like you want to order some drugs and are then driven off by a crappy design.

this is true. i was hoping it would draw some media attention. usually gawker does an anti-SR article about anything that goes on on SR. i guess they couldn't find a way to put a negative spin on this.

Anyways, the fact that SR upped their security and did this remake because of the influx of new users tells you that SR is growing stronger and more secure.

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Quote from: capsqrl on July 25, 2012, 04:46:50 AM

The criminal code should be a general reflection of how most people in a society perceives right and wrong.

You statist. No it shouldn't. It should be a general reflection of how most people in a society perceive infringement upon the rights of others.

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I don't think a redesign of the site will mean increased influx of new users.

I'm all for improvement, but this won't tap any new userbase. It's not like you happen to see this awesomely designed silkroad page by some accident and then do business on it because it's so pretty. It's also not like you want to order some drugs and are then driven off by a crappy design.

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Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

Before using the word "illegal", ask yourself first who makes the law.

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Quote from: Hexadecibel on July 22, 2012, 03:19:19 AM

smoothie, how did you get off my ignore list? oh well, fixed.

ahh yes, damn fine idea, thank you Hex

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Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:47:30 AM

Quote from: myrkul on July 22, 2012, 02:46:02 AM

Where you see "illegal activity", I see people making voluntary transactions, harming nobody.

Not all illegal activity involves harming another person.

Not all activity harmful to another person is illegal.

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Quote from: CoinCidental on July 25, 2012, 04:48:44 AM

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Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

I stand by my tripod statement.

Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc).
Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!.
Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have.

VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

this

the pay 4 porn industry is being killed now because there is so much free porn ,i wouldnt rely on people paying for porn to sustain ANY business or currency as long as

google and bittorrent can find you all the porn in the world .......

true, but you would be surprised at how many people still do it. Granted that most people that use bitcoin are savvy enough to not pay for porn. Still, Gambling with bitcoins has a lot of room to grow.

in the late 1990's Porn stars were making more money than they could spend ,literally women were getting several thousand dollars and the men upwards of 500 for a day

I saw a program about it which said the industry is basically dead in the water now for a lot of reasons but mainly because anything new is "shared" rapidly and this generation have more or less figured out how to download and stream everything and nobody has fiqured out a way to stop new content being shared for free
so i wouldnt like to invest in the online porn industry expecting it to get better

future generations will be more internet savvy and competent than us so i also think gambling is a safer bet than porn going forward

I think catering to fetishes and also web cam girls&guys are the way forward for the porn industry.
This could mean less big players and many more individuals representing themselves.

Hollywood cries the same losses as the porn industry and they seem to be doing fine.

There is the obvious issue though that the current bitcoin demographic is extremely tech savy and therefore are quite adept at finding what they want.

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Quote from: myrkul on July 25, 2012, 05:01:03 AM

Bitcoin is very well suited to live performance porn... streaming shows performed to a live audience, and not recorded. It's a premium service, and one I think people will pay for.

agreed, and to completely stay off topic for the moment.
my suggestion for all cam sites right now:

Have a pot for the client and tip slider.
The tip slider determines how many satoshi's per second to tip the dancer from the pot.
Like the show ?, ramp it up to 100 - about to blow set it to over 9000!!! satoshi etc etc.

As myrkul said, its ideal for live shows Wink

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Quote from: capsqrl on July 25, 2012, 04:46:50 AM

Quote from: myrkul on July 25, 2012, 03:03:02 AM

Don't you think that if the definitions of "wrong" and "criminal" don't coincide, those definitions should be changed?

The criminal code should be a general reflection of how most people in a society perceives right and wrong. Yes. And sometimes those perceptions change faster than the laws, and in those cases laws need to be changed. But until that happens, you're still a criminal if you break those laws. So break them, and wear your criminal title like a badge of honour. It's called civil disobedience, but you're still a criminal. You don't get to personally decide who's a criminal and who's not. And that's my point.

This is a fine point, but here's the law I live by, and the only one I expect those around me to live by: The Non-Aggression Principle. Locke said it most completely and succinctly, I think: "Being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions."

To stay on topic,

Quote from: CoinCidental on July 25, 2012, 04:48:44 AM

future generations will be more internet savvy and competent than us so i also think gambling is a safer bet than porn going forward

Bitcoin is very well suited to live performance porn... streaming shows performed to a live audience, and not recorded. It's a premium service, and one I think people will pay for.

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Quote from: kentrolla on July 25, 2012, 04:38:33 AM

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Quote from: mem on July 25, 2012, 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

I stand by my tripod statement.

Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc).
Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!.
Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have.

VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

this

the pay 4 porn industry is being killed now because there is so much free porn ,i wouldnt rely on people paying for porn to sustain ANY business or currency as long as

google and bittorrent can find you all the porn in the world .......

true, but you would be surprised at how many people still do it. Granted that most people that use bitcoin are savvy enough to not pay for porn. Still, Gambling with bitcoins has a lot of room to grow.

in the late 1990's Porn stars were making more money than they could spend ,literally women were getting several thousand dollars and the men upwards of 500 for a day

I saw a program about it which said the industry is basically dead in the water now for a lot of reasons but mainly because anything new is "shared" rapidly and this generation have more or less figured out how to download and stream everything and nobody has fiqured out a way to stop new content being shared for free
so i wouldnt like to invest in the online porn industry expecting it to get better

future generations will be more internet savvy and competent than us so i also think gambling is a safer bet than porn going forward

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Quote from: myrkul on July 25, 2012, 03:03:02 AM

Don't you think that if the definitions of "wrong" and "criminal" don't coincide, those definitions should be changed?

The criminal code should be a general reflection of how most people in a society perceives right and wrong. Yes. And sometimes those perceptions change faster than the laws, and in those cases laws need to be changed. But until that happens, you're still a criminal if you break those laws. So break them, and wear your criminal title like a badge of honour. It's called civil disobedience, but you're still a criminal. You don't get to personally decide who's a criminal and who's not. And that's my point.

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Quote from: CoinCidental on July 25, 2012, 04:34:31 AM

Quote from: kentrolla on July 25, 2012, 04:31:07 AM

Quote from: mem on July 25, 2012, 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

I stand by my tripod statement.

Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc).
Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!.
Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have.

VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

this

the pay 4 porn industry is being killed now because there is so much free porn ,i wouldnt rely on people paying for porn to sustain ANY business or currency as long as

google and bittorrent can find you all the porn in the world .......

true, but you would be surprised at how many people still do it. Granted that most people that use bitcoin are savvy enough to not pay for porn. Still, Gambling with bitcoins has a lot of room to grow.

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Quote from: kentrolla on July 25, 2012, 04:31:07 AM

Quote from: mem on July 25, 2012, 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

I stand by my tripod statement.

Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc).
Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!.
Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have.

VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

this

the pay 4 porn industry is being killed now because there is so much free porn ,i wouldnt rely on people paying for porn to sustain ANY business or currency as long as

google and bittorrent can find you all the porn in the world .......

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Quote from: mem on July 25, 2012, 04:12:59 AM

Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

I stand by my tripod statement.

Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc).
Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!.
Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have.

VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

this

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Quote from: smoothie on July 22, 2012, 02:38:56 AM

Translation: "I believe that bitcoin needs more drug users to buy into bitcoin in order for the market price to go up. Let's promote illegal activity in bitcoin guys!"

I stand by my tripod statement.

Bitcoin needs 3 legs to stand on, Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

SR covers the 1st nicely but I wish it was not the only one that did so (all your eggs in one basket etc).
Sex is getting there, seeing more and more cam girls etc. I really hope this takes off - my current speel: Tired of your partner seeing (foot/gay/bi/ladyboy/scat)-fetish on your CC bill - USE BITCOINS !!!.
Gambling - while still small Id call what we currently have a success for the community size we have.

VHS won over BETA mainly because of porn, bitcoin will win its place as a currency because of Drugs, Sex and Gambling.

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Quote from: myrkul on July 25, 2012, 04:05:54 AM

Quote from: kentrolla on July 25, 2012, 03:46:42 AM

you might find this interesting. the definition of the word "Justice" https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=QkytIlgCkfcx-qxYbDkQ-g&cp=11&gs_id=9a&xhr=t&q=justice+definition&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=justice+def&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=aa499a16869e0be5&biw=1920&bih=955

It says nothing about laws or crime. It talks about being "just." and "the quality of being fair and reasonable." Putting people in jail for voluntarily putting drugs in their own bodies is "unjust." The Whole goal Judicial system is the pursuit of Justice. So, "crimes" are something that is considered "unjust." Therefore if you think voluntarily ingesting substances is "unjust" then it is a "crime." IMO, voluntarily doing anything to yourself is not "unjust" as long as it is victimless.

This. Also, I like to use dictionary.com... it uses makes shorter links, at least. Wink

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/justice

yea, i just thought i would use the google link so people can't claim that I looked for a definition that fit my argument.

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Quote from: kentrolla on July 25, 2012, 03:46:42 AM

you might find this interesting. the definition of the word "Justice" https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=QkytIlgCkfcx-qxYbDkQ-g&cp=11&gs_id=9a&xhr=t&q=justice+definition&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=justice+def&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=aa499a16869e0be5&biw=1920&bih=955

It says nothing about laws or crime. It talks about being "just." and "the quality of being fair and reasonable." Putting people in jail for voluntarily putting drugs in their own bodies is "unjust." The Whole goal Judicial system is the pursuit of Justice. So, "crimes" are something that is considered "unjust." Therefore if you think voluntarily ingesting substances is "unjust" then it is a "crime." IMO, voluntarily doing anything to yourself is not "unjust" as long as it is victimless.

This. Also, I like to use dictionary.com... it uses makes shorter links, at least. Wink

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/justice

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you might find this interesting. the definition of the word "Justice" https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=QkytIlgCkfcx-qxYbDkQ-g&cp=11&gs_id=9a&xhr=t&q=justice+definition&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=justice+def&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=aa499a16869e0be5&biw=1920&bih=955

It says nothing about laws or crime. It talks about being "just." and "the quality of being fair and reasonable." Putting people in jail for voluntarily putting drugs in their own bodies is "unjust." The Whole goal Judicial system is the pursuit of Justice. So, "crimes" are something that is considered "unjust." Therefore if you think voluntarily ingesting substances is "unjust" then it is a "crime." IMO, voluntarily doing anything to yourself is not "unjust" as long as it is victimless.

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Quote from: capsqrl on July 25, 2012, 02:40:24 AM

Quote from: Serenata on July 25, 2012, 01:51:20 AM

Quote from: capsqrl on July 22, 2012, 02:50:15 AM

Quote from: myrkul on July 22, 2012, 02:49:10 AM

"Victimless crimes" aren't crimes.

Crime is defined by what's in the law books.

Following rules blindly without questioning their purpose and usefulness to the general public, is not a good idea IMO.
What if SEX would be declared illegal? Would you consider yourself a criminal for having it?

Of course I would, because I could be criminally punished for it. That's what crime means. It has nothing to do with right or wrong, and everything to do with what laws say you can't do. Some laws are unjust and it's understandable if people break them and don't feel bad about it, but that doesn't mean breaking them does not constitute a crime.

Don't you think that if the definitions of "wrong" and "criminal" don't coincide, those definitions should be changed?

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Quote from: Serenata on July 25, 2012, 01:51:20 AM

Quote from: capsqrl on July 22, 2012, 02:50:15 AM

Quote from: myrkul on July 22, 2012, 02:49:10 AM

"Victimless crimes" aren't crimes.

Crime is defined by what's in the law books.

Following rules blindly without questioning their purpose and usefulness to the general public, is not a good idea IMO.
What if SEX would be declared illegal? Would you consider yourself a criminal for having it?

Of course I would, because I could be criminally punished for it. That's what crime means. It has nothing to do with right or wrong, and everything to do with what laws say you can't do. Some laws are unjust and it's understandable if people break them and don't feel bad about it, but that doesn't mean breaking them does not constitute a crime.

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