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TRex95
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Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 27, 2014, 02:30:44 PM
#52
Quote from: DubFX on September 25, 2014, 09:11:50 AM
Quote from: picolo on September 25, 2014, 09:08:35 AM
Quote from: zorke on September 17, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
Even if the police at watching you, simply reading about an illegal drug site is not evidence of a crime alone. They may take this fact with other incriminating evidence to make the conclusion that you are doing something illegal, however the fact that you are simply looking at the website or reading an article is not going to get you in any kind of trouble

Quote from: snappa4ever on September 16, 2014, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
You cannot be charged with any crimes just for reading something. The only way that this could come back to harm you would be if you were found to have committed a drug related crime (and had actual evidence against you) and the fact that you read about SR was corroborating evidence as to your intent as to what you were going to do with the illegal drugs

It depends what you search, searching and reading some articles are illegal and anyway do you want to see the police knocking at your door?

On the other hand if you use Tor, the police could know and go knock at your door thinking you are doing something illegal
That's why if you're in US u should use tails or vpn.
The US is probably the safest place to use TOR. There are no restrictions on freedom of speech (there are actually very few) in the US therefor someone seen using TOR is likely not going to be seen as trying to get around these restrictions (which is the primary reason why governments look to see if citizens are using TOR)
lucasjkr
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Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 27, 2014, 02:14:40 PM
#51
Rubbish!

I never have and never will bought anything from silkroad or any other "dark net" marketplace. I do find the whole phenomenon fascnating, however, so I've read and will continue to read about them. And when I do, I do so over my ordinary internet connection, knowing that the police will NEVER show up at my door because I happened to google "silkroad news", "ross ulbrict" or anything else.

Take off the tinfoil hats, everyone!
LouReed
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Activity: 732
Merit: 500
Nosce te Ipsum
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 25, 2014, 09:23:54 AM
#50
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?


http://www.deepdotweb.com/2013/10/28/updated-llist-of-hidden-marketplaces-tor-i2p/
DubFX
sr. member
Activity: 434
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Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 25, 2014, 09:11:50 AM
#49
Quote from: picolo on September 25, 2014, 09:08:35 AM
Quote from: zorke on September 17, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
Even if the police at watching you, simply reading about an illegal drug site is not evidence of a crime alone. They may take this fact with other incriminating evidence to make the conclusion that you are doing something illegal, however the fact that you are simply looking at the website or reading an article is not going to get you in any kind of trouble

Quote from: snappa4ever on September 16, 2014, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
You cannot be charged with any crimes just for reading something. The only way that this could come back to harm you would be if you were found to have committed a drug related crime (and had actual evidence against you) and the fact that you read about SR was corroborating evidence as to your intent as to what you were going to do with the illegal drugs

It depends what you search, searching and reading some articles are illegal and anyway do you want to see the police knocking at your door?

On the other hand if you use Tor, the police could know and go knock at your door thinking you are doing something illegal
That's why if you're in US u should use tails or vpn.
picolo
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 25, 2014, 09:08:35 AM
#48
Quote from: zorke on September 17, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
Even if the police at watching you, simply reading about an illegal drug site is not evidence of a crime alone. They may take this fact with other incriminating evidence to make the conclusion that you are doing something illegal, however the fact that you are simply looking at the website or reading an article is not going to get you in any kind of trouble

Quote from: snappa4ever on September 16, 2014, 10:19:06 PM
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
You cannot be charged with any crimes just for reading something. The only way that this could come back to harm you would be if you were found to have committed a drug related crime (and had actual evidence against you) and the fact that you read about SR was corroborating evidence as to your intent as to what you were going to do with the illegal drugs

It depends what you search, searching and reading some articles are illegal and anyway do you want to see the police knocking at your door?

On the other hand if you use Tor, the police could know and go knock at your door thinking you are doing something illegal
zorke
full member
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Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 17, 2014, 10:21:52 PM
#47
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
Even if the police at watching you, simply reading about an illegal drug site is not evidence of a crime alone. They may take this fact with other incriminating evidence to make the conclusion that you are doing something illegal, however the fact that you are simply looking at the website or reading an article is not going to get you in any kind of trouble
snappa4ever
sr. member
Activity: 374
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 16, 2014, 10:19:06 PM
#46
Quote from: freedomno1 on September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
You cannot be charged with any crimes just for reading something. The only way that this could come back to harm you would be if you were found to have committed a drug related crime (and had actual evidence against you) and the fact that you read about SR was corroborating evidence as to your intent as to what you were going to do with the illegal drugs
freedomno1
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 16, 2014, 08:58:50 PM
#45
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down

I guess the main point would be to be careful to make sure they aren't already looking at you in the first place or they would just have more circumstantial evidence to take someone down with.
wasserman99
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 16, 2014, 08:45:09 PM
#44
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
Exactly. I think a lot of people are interested in these illegal sites that have no intention of ever using the sites. One example would be someone who is opposed to these sites to be doing research to argue for additional resources to given to try to take them down
DubFX
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 15, 2014, 03:25:41 AM
#43
Quote from: hl5460 on September 15, 2014, 03:14:19 AM
Interesting news, translated and posted into Chinese:
http://8btc.com/thread-7310-1-1.html

And what was this good for? I've heard that the ddos have stopped already, haven't it?
hl5460
legendary
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news.8btc.com
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 15, 2014, 03:14:19 AM
#42
Interesting news, translated and posted into Chinese:
http://8btc.com/thread-7310-1-1.html
DubFX
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 14, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
#41
Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
It's quite different about SR and other illegal marketplaces i guess as it may seem like you have interest about them if you read about them.
wasserman99
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 14, 2014, 02:12:36 PM
#40
Quote from: Bitcoins101 on September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
It is not at all illegal to read about sites like SR or other illegal websites. There are a lot of legit reasons to read about and even access these illegal darkweb sites.

To say that you should not read about sites like SR is like saying that you should not read about a murder in your community or about a bank robbery. Reading about any of these would not implicate you in anything illegal
Bitcoins101
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 509
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 14, 2014, 06:00:12 AM
#39
Quote from: DubFX on September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
Make sure to use Tor while searching for clearnet articles about the deepweb. Don't be low-hanging fruit and Google crap like that without Tor - it's the perfect excuse for a raid which will waste law enforcement's time. Search around Reddit. Acquire knowledge and do what you want with it within your country's laws - the government always knows best and is just there to protect you.
DubFX
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 14, 2014, 05:52:32 AM
#38
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
There are lots of articles on clearnet, look around Wink
But ordering substances that are forbidden in your contry is illegal.
wasserman99
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 14, 2014, 01:41:31 AM
#37
Quote from: ?? on ??
i was under the impression that agora etc were all dangerous phishing sites...

is there an updated list of 'safe' dark marketplaces?
I don't think any of the dark net marketplaces for illegal drugs should be considered as "safe"

You have a huge risk of getting scammed on these kinds of sites. Even if you do not get scammed you are breaking the law and are risking prosecution. You also risk that the site as been compromised and is now essentially run by the police/law enforcement.

I would actually be surprised if the attack on SR2 was not being launched by the FBI while attempting to take it down within a year of taking down SR1.
tins
hero member
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Merit: 500
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 13, 2014, 04:00:05 PM
#36
Quote from: Bitcoinpro on September 12, 2014, 10:30:53 PM
the silk road bitcoin sold for $900 double the market value !






Do you have a link to this? I didn't know the final numbers were made public.
dankkk
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 13, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
#35
Quote from: newflesh on September 13, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
You would think the FBI would have learnt its lesson from the first Silkroad takedown. Even if they were to shut down Silkroad 2, Silkroad 3 would soon pop up (I think SR2 was up within a month of SR1 being taken down), that's not even factoring in all the new developments like Open Bazaar etc.
It took several years for the FBI to be able to take down SR1. SR2 has been open for well under a year so far. If the FBI is able to take down SR2 in much less time then it took to take down SR1, despite SR2 learning from SR1's mistakes and apparently being much better funded from a security point of view then others would be less likely to want to follow in the footsteps of ross and create additional dark markets
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Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 13, 2014, 02:26:19 PM
#34
Ddos attack =/= beign able to steal coins, it's just making the servers too busy to respond to normal request instread of only attacker's ones.
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Re: Silkroad 2.0 under attack....again
September 13, 2014, 12:02:30 PM
#33
Quote from: MrPiggles on September 13, 2014, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: zorke on September 12, 2014, 10:57:06 PM
Quote from: MrPiggles on September 12, 2014, 03:54:35 AM
Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 12, 2014, 01:09:25 AM
Is it really possible to steal coins from SR 2.0? They had removed the escrow system many months ago, and replaced it with the multi-sig wallet system. If SR 2.0 does not hold Bitcoins of its users anymore, how it is possible to steal the coins from that site?

Anyway, if a robbery did actually happened, then I am sure that the admins will refund the lost coins. They had already did that during the last robbery.

They havent implemented multi sig yet, it's in beta for a small number of users.

Also, the original "hack" wasn't a hack.

Defcon et al, realised they were playing a very dangerous game, and that the money they were making wasn't worth it. So they came up with a figure - say $3 million that they wanted for their own risk. They stole it themselves, blaming transaction malleability with some lame ass excuse about how they were moving all the money into the hot wallet just as the hacker struck (lol)

Once they had their little nest eggs stashed away so they had money to disappear if the FBI came calling or they felt under threat they returned with their "sweaty and humbled" speech about how they would repay everyone, then they repay everyone with a percentage of the fees they're collecting from users. (they're probably still skimming, I bet 100% of fees are not repaying people)

It makes sense, if I was them I'd do the exact same thing, rather than earn $10,000 a week or whatever knowing at any time the FBI could bust you and you'd have risked everything for a measly sum, start by stealing a good amount so you're safe then let the users repay that...


I understand the part about them stealing the bitcoin at first so to have to not take on the risk of being caught by law enforcement. What I don't understand is why they continued to operate the site after the "hack" - their risk of jail time is still present.

I do agree that the timing of the previous attack was very suspicious as it coincided with a time when the amount of money held in escrow was more or less at an all time high. 

because they want to continue making money.

They stole their nest egg, now they're adding to it. I do not believe that it's taken so long to repay the hack, there has also been some very suspicious scams. Obvious scammers made vendors with good feedback, accounts hijacked. I genuinely believe the crew behind SR2 are running it as a long con. They both steal and scam, and run it as a real market in order to maximise their profits.

They stole $3m or thereabouts.

They set up people like RaulGallardo with vendor accounts, and stole tens of thousands. Quite a few weird vendors have popped up and stolen money even when vendor reg was closed...somehow. So I guess they probably steal a small proportion, I dunno, say 3% of the money going through the site.

They also run it legitimately, getting 4% fees or so, but I bet they are using half of that to repay victims and half for themselves, hence why it's taken since february to repay.

These guys are professional crooks, to think they're running their highly illegal darknet market in an honest way is laughable. Look what happened to the last guy who did that.
But what it appears they are doing is "stealing" money from customers and then repaying them back with money they would have earned anyway from commissions. While they are "paying back" the customer money they are still vulnerable to be charged with drug related crimes. 
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