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sr. member
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July 02, 2011, 07:06:54 AM
#29
I think many of them feel bad about not diving in when bitcoin was <$1 so they come up with excuses too convince themselves bitcoin is a bad thing.

This is true for a lot of my friends. Anyone who is invested (most of them) is all excited about the idea. Anybody who was really interested and excited (but didn't have the money to invest) is now souring to the idea. Fortunately, not that many people in the world know about Bitcoin yet!
newbie
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July 02, 2011, 07:04:49 AM
#28
I have one thing to say to silver/gold/fiat/stock/bond/whatever stackers. Do not get married on your investments.

Agreed...wherein 'whatever' includes bitcoins. They are all vehicles.
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July 02, 2011, 06:19:12 AM
#27
I have one thing to say to silver/gold/fiat/stock/bond/whatever stackers. Do not get married on your investments.
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July 02, 2011, 06:17:30 AM
#26
When you look at the utmost importance of things, the less shiny shit you have, the less of a target you become. xD

When I look at the utmost importance of things, neither silver nor bitcoins even make the top ten. But you're right about shiny things, that's why silverbugs own shovels.

 Wink
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July 02, 2011, 05:54:05 AM
#25
When you look at the utmost importance of things, the less shiny shit you have, the less of a target you become. xD
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July 02, 2011, 05:07:50 AM
#24


I've been a silver stacker for years, and I can tell you that the lessons from the silverbugs are hard won. Silverbugs have really taken it on the chin and tasted the business end of the JPM etc. buggy whip. Perhaps that is one of the reasons that there is a, very unfortunate, knee-jerk reaction to Bitcoin - fear of manipulation. I, myself, certainly came in VERY cautious to Bitcoin. But the more I study it, the more I like it.

Perhaps now that (at least for the moment) the Bitcoin community realizes that valuations can also go down, it is a good time to do more to bring the movements together. Silverbugs tend to be hardened vets whose minds are, frankly, too narrow. Bitcoiners tend to be techie idealists who have difficulty hearing any critique.

I have a lot of admiration for both communities. And I consider them to be very smart people.







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June 11, 2011, 11:20:09 AM
#23
im a silver guy an i love the bitcoin market. so easy to predict.. i bought 100 BTC at 3$ USD an sold to some guy on ebay 3 days ago for 3300$ thanks for the free silver btc
legendary
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June 11, 2011, 10:47:33 AM
#22
On youtube the anti-bitcoin community seems to be 'big' and consisting mostly of silver-enthusiasts indeed...
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June 11, 2011, 10:43:46 AM
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I just don't understand why people who are smart enough to invest in precious metals on average either can't comprehend or flat out hate bitcoin citing the weakest excuses...

For the same reason that plenty of bitcoin investors don't see the value in investing in precious metals.  People tend to get emotionally invested in the things they are monetarily invested in and resist any perceived threat to their worldview.  To me it just makes sense to own both.
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June 11, 2011, 09:35:20 AM
#20
Anyone who has bough silver because of a JP Morgan possible default is sorely misguided. There are many more reasons to to be involved in silver than that. For example it's industrial uses. Study palladium and rhodium and you will learn about possibilities....e.g., currency debasement, etc., etc.

That being the foundation of your reasoning, you should also investigate why it is that you are involved in bitcoin. You'll lose your nerve for bitcoin as well if your foundation is not grounded.
sr. member
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June 11, 2011, 04:43:04 AM
#19
I have to agree!  I would much rather be 'swindled' by my buddy computer/tech enthusiasts than a bunch of banking goons and silver manipulators.  Smiley

Ha! I find the "at least if you lose all your money, it goes to computer nerds rather than bankers" argument actually pretty compelling!
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June 11, 2011, 04:17:12 AM
#18
I have been watching and reading about silver manipulation for months; and weeks ago I decided to sell some of my silver to go into bitcoin. I think I'm going to sell the rest. I've realized I am unconvinced that JPMorgan will ever be short squeezed to the point that their manipulation finally fails anytime soon. Don't you think they would be aware of the risk of being so short? Wouldn't they make sure they are in control of the situation? They've shown that they can easily pop bubbles.


I have to agree!  I would much rather be 'swindled' by my buddy computer/tech enthusiasts than a bunch of banking goons and silver manipulators.  Smiley

sr. member
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June 11, 2011, 03:56:16 AM
#17
I have been watching and reading about silver manipulation for months; and weeks ago I decided to sell some of my silver to go into bitcoin. I think I'm going to sell the rest. I've realized I am unconvinced that JPMorgan will ever be short squeezed to the point that their manipulation finally fails anytime soon. Don't you think they would be aware of the risk of being so short? Wouldn't they make sure they are in control of the situation? They've shown that they can easily pop bubbles.

Silver bugs would be thrilled if silver could manage $51. But which is more likely? Silver at $51 or bitcoin at $51?
And is silver going to $200 anytime soon? I don't think so. But no one would be shocked if bitcoin did.
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June 11, 2011, 12:21:20 AM
#16
I must be an exception... I had been investing in silver as heavily as I could since it was at $20. But when I discovered Bitcoin just two weeks ago, I realized I needed to get in quickly. I'm not currently selling silver to buy BTC, but may consider selling some of it after JP Morgan has to cover their short.
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June 10, 2011, 11:49:40 PM
#15
I want to part with some Oz. for some more BTC! Please get at me if interested!

Now that would be interesting. BTC for silver? Clearcoin as go between..... Will have to think on it. I actually sold silver and gold miners (ha!) to buy my first rigs. They've all went down since  Cool

Send me a PM and we'll keep it out there.
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June 10, 2011, 11:46:36 PM
#14
BTC is a commodity. Bitcoin is a proof-of-work system. It's useful because it proves that you've spent resources generating BTC. This means someone can charge for otherwise relatively free actions such as signing up to a website, posting on a forum or sending an email. This forces spammers to incur higher costs, making spam less profitable and reducing the overall amount.

Agree. I've been coming up with some pretty decent analogies to explain the value of bitcoin to people.

Briefly: the world has no money, God drops a big mountain on the earth and says, "there's gold in them thar hills". A bunch of guys with pick axes go and get the "money". The time, capital, etc to get the gold is the inherent value in it. Otherwise it really has no value.

The same can be said of bitcoin. I then explain to people to imagine looking at their online banking statement. I explain that it's only digital; it's not really there. If all that bank's customers went to the bank not everyone would get their money even though the register says they have it. IT'S DIGITAL. It starts to dawn on them.
legendary
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June 10, 2011, 11:43:37 PM
#13
I want to part with some Oz. for some more BTC! Please get at me if interested!
sr. member
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Elder Crypto God
June 10, 2011, 11:39:42 PM
#12
BTC is a commodity. Bitcoin is a proof-of-work system. It's useful because it proves that you've spent resources generating BTC. This means someone can charge for otherwise relatively free actions such as signing up to a website, posting on a forum or sending an email. This forces spammers to incur higher costs, making spam less profitable and reducing the overall amount.
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June 10, 2011, 11:38:20 PM
#11
People converted to gold silver bugs for all sorts of reasons, for some, it's not easy to have an open mind.
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June 10, 2011, 11:15:44 PM
#10
I think first you have to understand the nature of money and why people use it; then you can understand bitcoin. It's quite an educational process and there's a long way to go. I've been teaching people a lot about currencies and I've made them money in the markets. They listen to me about bitcoin because they respect me. They listen to me the same way a 4th grader listens to a Phd. Interesting but very confusing!    Tongue

So I'm not discouraged that I didn't get in a year ago (more bummed). I'm still going after this aggressively now and will teach people about it the same as I did with the metals.

What will keep people from this now is the cost of rigging and understanding why they would convert fiat to bitcoins to spend. Why not just spend the fiat? That's the challenge.

+1

On topic: I personally own some gold coins that were given to me as presents back when gold was a lot cheaper. I'm thinking selling them to buy more Bitcoins  Grin

Keep them and buy bitcoins with your fiat. Diversity is the key. No one should own one thing and only one thing of anything....imo.
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