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legendary
Activity: 1449
Merit: 1001
March 03, 2012, 10:56:58 AM
#50

I'm willing to bet that the Supercomputer unit will give us more in terms of hash rate and less usage in terms of electricity. Can't wait until it's out.

Delivery time 6-8 months
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 03, 2012, 09:37:47 AM
#49
I've done alot of math on the ribox, and it does indeed pay off if BTC value and difficulty doesn't change TOO much in the following months. Keep in mind the decrease in block payout which is set to happen late 2012/early 2013!

The math i've done is for 10 units. In terms of electricity, that's 600 kw/h a day, or 219000 kw/h a year. I'm lucky to live in a country where electricity costs $0.06 per Kw/h. If electricity was my only expense, and difficulty would stay the same untill late 2012, i would still profit if 1 BTC  felt to around $0.188 in value.

Pretty awesome numbers Smiley

yessssssss thanks bro, your numbers are in sync with mine

I'm willing to bet that the Supercomputer unit will give us more in terms of hash rate and less usage in terms of electricity. Can't wait until it's out.
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10
March 03, 2012, 06:59:27 AM
#48
I've done alot of math on the ribox, and it does indeed pay off if BTC value and difficulty doesn't change TOO much in the following months. Keep in mind the decrease in block payout which is set to happen late 2012/early 2013!

The math i've done is for 10 units. In terms of electricity, that's 600 kw/h a day, or 219000 kw/h a year. I'm lucky to live in a country where electricity costs $0.06 per Kw/h. If electricity was my only expense, and difficulty would stay the same untill late 2012, i would still profit if 1 BTC  felt to around $0.188 in value.

Pretty awesome numbers Smiley
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
March 03, 2012, 03:24:37 AM
#47

per Hour   141.09803414 BTC   $1,269.88230722
per Day   3,386.35281925 BTC   $30,477.17537325


The daily bitcoin production rate is 7200 bitcoins per day. In order for you to keep those number you will have to continuously buy ZTEX, x6500, icaras boards at the rate of 1 in 2 to 1 in 3 for the lifetime of the manufacturer. Not to mention all the GPUs.

This will drop as the fees per tx start increasing, but that won't be until the 25 block reqard drop in December.


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legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1020
March 02, 2012, 09:47:10 PM
#46
boconniff40,

Take 3 natural, relaxed breaths.

boconniff40 @ peace  Grin

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 08:55:25 PM
#45
Using current exchange rates and pc calculator

1 unit
"per Year   204.181 BTC   $1,837.63"
-> 204.181 x 4.7 = $959.6507

100 units
"per Year   20,418.095 BTC   $183,762.85"
-> 20,418.095 x 4.7 = $95,965.0465
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 08:50:15 PM
#44
The Single
Electrical Costs
5.5 cents per kWh(5 year contract)

80 w/h x 24 hours = 1920 watts or 1.92 kWh.

0.055(in cents) x 1.92 kWh = $0.1056 per unit per day
x 365 days = $38.544 per unit per year

x 100 units = $3854.4 per year
----------------------------------------------------------
Profitability
Using this calculator http://bitcoin.web-share.nl/?q=50.4&unit=g¤cy=usd&fee=0

Common Info

Your hash-rate:   832000000 hashes/second
Difficulty:   1496978.5950256 times difficult than difficulty 1
Exchange Rate:   $9,00000000/BTC
Block time:   2 months, 4 weeks, 13 hours, 39 minutes, 25 seconds/block
Network total:   10,109 Thash/second
Profit

Time Interval   BTC   US dollar
per Second   0.00000647 BTC   $0.00005823
per Hour   0.02329237 BTC   $0.20963137
per Day   0.55901697 BTC   $5.03115276
per Week   3.9131 BTC   $35.2181
per Month   16.994 BTC   $152.95
per Year   204.181 BTC   $1,837.63

MULTIPLY THE ABOVE NUMBERS BY 100(units), using the same calculator as above

Common Info

Your hash-rate:   83200000000 hashes/second
Difficulty:   1496978.5950256 times difficult than difficulty 1
Exchange Rate:   $9,00000000/BTC
Block time:   21 hours, 27 minutes, 58 seconds/block
Network total:   10,109 Thash/second
Profit

Time Interval   BTC   US dollar
per Second   0.00064701 BTC   $0.00582309
per Hour   2.32923739 BTC   $20.96313650
per Day   55.90169733 BTC   $503.11527600
per Week   391.3119 BTC   $3,521.8069
per Month   1,699.412 BTC   $15,294.70
per Year   20,418.095 BTC   $183,762.85

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 06:42:30 PM
#43
"per Year   1,236,865.367 BTC   $11,131,788.31"

1,236,865.367 x 4.7 = $5,813,267.2249 <--- is this what you guys were referring to?

YOU COULD HAVE JUST CALLED IT RIGHT AND SAID THE CALCULATOR WAS OFF instead of just saying that my numbers are wrong lmfao.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
#42
I think the calculator that I am using is wrong in terms of converting BTC to USD.

"per Year   12,368.654 BTC   $111,317.88"

12,368.654 BTC x 4.7 = $58,132.6738  <--- this is using the current exchange rate and my pc's calculator
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
#41
Rig Box
Electrical Costs
5.5 cents per kWh

2,500 w/h x 24 hours = 60,000 watts or 60 kWh.

0.055(in cents) x 60 kWh = $3.3 per unit per day
x 365 days = $1,204.5 per unit per year

x 100 units = $120,450 per year
-------------------------------------------------------------
Profitability
Using this calculator http://bitcoin.web-share.nl/?q=50.4&unit=g¤cy=usd&fee=0

Common Info

Your hash-rate:   50400000000 hashes/second
Difficulty:   1496978.5950256 times difficult than difficulty 1
Exchange Rate:   $9,00000000/BTC
Block time:   1 day, 11 hours, 26 minutes, 10 seconds/block
Network total:   10,387 Thash/second
Profit

Time Interval   BTC   US dollar
per Second   0.00039194 BTC   $0.00352745
per Hour   1.41098034 BTC   $12.69882307
per Day   33.86352819 BTC   $304.77175373
per Week   237.0447 BTC   $2,133.4023
per Month   1,029.451 BTC   $9,265.06
per Year   12,368.654 BTC   $111,317.88

MULTIPLY THE ABOVE NUMBERS BY 100(units), using the same calculator as above

Common Info

Your hash-rate:   5040000000000 hashes/second
Difficulty:   1496978.5950256 times difficult than difficulty 1
Exchange Rate:   $9,00000000/BTC
Block time:   21 minutes, 15 seconds/block
Network total:   10,506 Thash/second
Profit

Time Interval   BTC   US dollar
per Second   0.03919390 BTC   $0.35274509
per Hour   141.09803414 BTC   $1,269.88230722
per Day   3,386.35281925 BTC   $30,477.17537325
per Week   23,704.4697 BTC   $213,340.2276
per Month   102,945.126 BTC   $926,506.13
per Year   1,236,865.367 BTC   $11,131,788.31
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 06:11:05 PM
#40
Also can we please go by what the manufacturer has stated on their website of 2,500 w/h... there is no reason for the manufacturer to lie.

Also please note I edited some of my above posts.

Your new.  BFL also claimed the single would get 1.05 GH/s @ 20W.  They were slightly off.    It gets 800 MH/s @ 80W.

Ummm... BFL states on their webpage... "832 Mega Hash / s @ 80w" for the single... you may want to double check that website again.

As for the rig box, it states it consumes 2,500 watts of energy per hour and produces 50.4 gigahash.

Now once the boxes are out in the wild tested by people they claim that, before it was 20w claimed and as others have pointed out to you there is a considerable difficulty in comprehending numbers on your part.

I could care less.

Also maybe you people should consider that the manufacturer is using different numbers on their websites for advertising purposes, or maybe they test their units under lighter loads.

Whatever... and by the way, if all you're going to say is that there is something wrong with the numbers you are posting up without clarifying, you are obviously just trolling, being a douche, being a scumbag, etc... etc.... etc...
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 05:54:00 PM
#39
Using http://www.energyshop.com/es/prices/ON/eleON.cfm?ldc_id=398&, I found a cheaper regular rate of 3.7 cents per kWh on a 1 year contract(wish the term was longer).
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 05:51:54 PM
#38
Had to correct myself... lowest residential electricity price I can get is 5.5 cents per kWh for the first 5 years. http://www.canadaenergy.ca/index.php?hydro=residential

Wrong again.

What is this? Are you stupid? I clearly quoted the site, why don't you go read it fucktard.

Consider yourself on my ignore list, you're as equally stupid as that flip retard.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
March 02, 2012, 05:49:08 PM
#37
Had to correct myself... lowest residential electricity price I can get is 5.5 cents per kWh for the first 5 years. http://www.canadaenergy.ca/index.php?hydro=residential

Wrong again.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 05:47:24 PM
#36
Had to correct myself... lowest residential electricity price I can get is 5.5 cents per kWh for the first 5 years. http://www.canadaenergy.ca/index.php?hydro=residential
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
March 02, 2012, 05:45:48 PM
#35
Also can we please go by what the manufacturer has stated on their website of 2,500 w/h... there is no reason for the manufacturer to lie.

Also please note I edited some of my above posts.

Your new.  BFL also claimed the single would get 1.05 GH/s @ 20W.  They were slightly off.    It gets 800 MH/s @ 80W.

Ummm... BFL states on their webpage... "832 Mega Hash / s @ 80w" for the single... you may want to double check that website again.

As for the rig box, it states it consumes 2,500 watts of energy per hour and produces 50.4 gigahash.

Now once the boxes are out in the wild tested by people they claim that, before it was 20w claimed and as others have pointed out to you there is a considerable difficulty in comprehending numbers on your part.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 05:43:21 PM
#34
The Rigbox is not a straight duplication of the Singles board, Sonny has mentioned this. Nobody quite knows what's in there yet.

Right but the point is BFL was off, not off by 5% or 20% but off by 400% when it came to the power requirements of the Single.  Given that to think the specs on a rig box nobody has seen and likely doesn't even exist yet aren't subject to change is silly.

Okay that's nice... maybe you're not getting the point of why I keep talking about electrical prices here.

I still have the option of getting a commercial rate for electricity, which is really optimal because I really don't want to have so many rig boxes at my house.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 05:43:17 PM
#33
Single
$599 @ 832 mhash
OR
(x1000)
$599,000 @ 83.2 ghash/832,000 mhash
(/10)
$59,900 @ 8.32 ghash

Please correct this horrible display of math skills.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 02, 2012, 05:41:45 PM
#32
I ACTUALLY already DID find something cheaper than hydro... it's called green energy at 3 cents per kWh... come check it out...

https://www.bullfrogpower.com/signup/signup.cfm?p=5

You have a really tough time comprehending numbers don't you?

"You will continue to receive a bill from your current electricity and/or natural gas provider, and Bullfrog will send you a separate bill for the additional cost of greening your services"

Yeah? Where' s the numbers with your quotation?
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1079
Gerald Davis
March 02, 2012, 05:41:28 PM
#31
The Rigbox is not a straight duplication of the Singles board, Sonny has mentioned this. Nobody quite knows what's in there yet.

Right but the point is BFL was off, not off by 5% or 20% but off by 400% when it came to the power requirements of the Single.  Given that to think the specs on a rig box nobody has seen and likely doesn't even exist yet aren't subject to change is silly.
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