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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 28, 2023, 01:56:58 AM

I heard about skill-based slots recently but I still haven't able to play any slots of that type. I also currently have zero knowledge of names/titles of anu skill-based slots. Can you give us any example?

Same here, I don't even know how these bonus rounds that they're talking about look. In what way do we measure skill? Skill in what?
An example of a skill based gambling machine could be a pinball table made in such way to work like a slot machine and pay people for high scores. Usually a slot machine has just one roll button/lever and the only thing you can change is the stake, number of slots, or the theme, you can't really react to what the machine is showing. To allow for skill test the machine would need to work like an arcade machine, allowing you to test memory or reaction time. I'd play something like that if I had the chance.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on April 07, 2023, 05:06:27 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 28, 2023, 01:56:58 AM

I heard about skill-based slots recently but I still haven't able to play any slots of that type. I also currently have zero knowledge of names/titles of anu skill-based slots. Can you give us any example?

It's interesting to learn about skill-based slot machines and how they differ from traditional ones. I didn't know that was a thing either. I'm assuming the bonus rounds are like mini-games within the slot game where players have to complete certain challenges or objectives to increase their chances of winning? I haven't tried them myself, but it seems like a fun way to incorporate video game elements into casino games.

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How is pressing a button a skill Grin

I guess there is nothing much about slot games than pushing a button, as a gambler you need to rely on luck more than your skill, if there is no luck in gambling then it's no more a gambling game, this is not beat em up or mortal combat where players rely entirely on skills.

Gambling is mostly about luck, which is why you should play only with money that you can lose. There is always a high possibility of losing the game even if you are very smart. This is a casino after all, so don't play with too much money.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 07, 2023, 12:33:23 AM

Quote from: Helena Yu on March 28, 2023, 04:12:17 AM

I still don't understand how can a bonus round is classified as skill based? I think it's still purely on luck, but you're getting more chance to win because you spend more money until you get the bonus round. Is there any casino which have bonus round? I never experienced that, what I know is free spin and bonus buy feature. A slot which have bonus round is still luck based for me.

In slot games actually theres no skill base its just norms of the people having the proper way of making the pull of a lever, timing of the push, and the number of taps those are just the beliefs of the gamblers in terms of playing slot games, its all about the odds of the chance of winning, if you win the game they will tell you that you are a skilled but actuall you just hit the odds to get win. In traditional slots you can make a lever adjust depends on your pull in new slot games theres only a button and makes a turn rate of it like the players does not have a fully control on the movement or timing.

Those of us who know that slot games are gambling games based on luck will not say that special skills can be learned to win these games. But those who believe it will say the opposite and still believe that there is a skill base needed to win from slot games. Maybe there is or not and that's up to each person because we can't blame someone who believes that skill-based slot games exist.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 28, 2023, 01:56:58 AM

I heard about skill-based slots recently but I still haven't able to play any slots of that type. I also currently have zero knowledge of names/titles of anu skill-based slots. Can you give us any example?

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 07, 2023, 12:33:23 AM

Quote from: Helena Yu on March 28, 2023, 04:12:17 AM

I still don't understand how can a bonus round is classified as skill based? I think it's still purely on luck, but you're getting more chance to win because you spend more money until you get the bonus round. Is there any casino which have bonus round? I never experienced that, what I know is free spin and bonus buy feature. A slot which have bonus round is still luck based for me.

In slot games actually theres no skill base its just norms of the people having the proper way of making the pull of a lever, timing of the push, and the number of taps those are just the beliefs of the gamblers in terms of playing slot games, its all about the odds of the chance of winning, if you win the game they will tell you that you are a skilled but actuall you just hit the odds to get win. In traditional slots you can make a lever adjust depends on your pull in new slot games theres only a button and makes a turn rate of it like the players does not have a fully control on the movement or timing.

There's no indeed skill involved when playing up slots on which it is really just that pulling a lever or would really be just pressing a button on which means that there's no involved on that or you could be able to influence

on what would be the result which means that luck would be always the main sole reason whether you would win or not.There's no skill that would really be involved.This is why its really that hard to believe that

there would be some casinos would really be having that kind of game type which slots game could really be applied with some skill which cant be possible.No matter how you do make out strategies
or analysis, there's no way that you could be able to increase your winning chances.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on March 28, 2023, 04:12:17 AM

I still don't understand how can a bonus round is classified as skill based? I think it's still purely on luck, but you're getting more chance to win because you spend more money until you get the bonus round. Is there any casino which have bonus round? I never experienced that, what I know is free spin and bonus buy feature. A slot which have bonus round is still luck based for me.

In slot games actually theres no skill base its just norms of the people having the proper way of making the pull of a lever, timing of the push, and the number of taps those are just the beliefs of the gamblers in terms of playing slot games, its all about the odds of the chance of winning, if you win the game they will tell you that you are a skilled but actuall you just hit the odds to get win. In traditional slots you can make a lever adjust depends on your pull in new slot games theres only a button and makes a turn rate of it like the players does not have a fully control on the movement or timing.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2023, 11:41:11 AM

You are probably misunderstanding the whole concept here, the implementation of a skill-based bonus round doesn't mean that the luck factor is removed, there cannot be a game of gambling that can be won without luck, no matter how much changes, developments, and implementations are made for it, it will still be a game of luck at the end of the day.

Your winnings will still be dependent on luck even in a skill-based slots machine, the only difference will be is that you will be given a bonus round where you can maximize your winnings by playing a skill-based game since we don't have any more information about it so far, that's all you should know for now.

Besides even if the element of luck was removed then we need to wonder if the game is still considered a gambling game at all? If I am not mistaken chess or at least one of the variants of chaturanga called chaturaji was played with dice, making it a gambling game, but once you remove this element then it would become a game of skill.

So even if slots add an element of skill for the player, at the end the most important factor when it comes to winning is still their luck, as it is unlikely any casino will implement a slot machine with a bonus which will make them to lose any money.

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I read the article, and I don't really understand anything more about Skill-based slot machines. The article really just talked about that fact that there are skill based slot machines and that they give you a chance of earning more money by adding a bonus feature which will allow you the opportunity to utilize some sort of knowledge/skill to make more money. However it didn't talk at all about how this works..so I dont get it. I'll have to read through some of the comments.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 28, 2023, 01:56:58 AM

Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck¹ as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to² display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

1. http://bostonsportsextra.com/skill-based-slot-machines-what-are-they-and-how-they-work/
2. http://web.archive.org/slot1.sbs/76959.html

Slots will always be slots. There a many twists to it but in the end its all luck based winning. If skill is your thing than you need to pivot over to something like poker in which the players have a hand in if they win or lose. I've never been a huge slot player but they are fun from time to time like lottery is or scratch off cards, etc. Never know maybe you hit the big one. But if I'm playing slots give me easy lol.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 03, 2023, 07:14:03 AM

Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners, not the gamblers. I was thinking if that really exists, how this casino will even survive? No, those things are baseless and out of reality. Slot machine games are known to be pure luck-based games - I couldn't really imagine someone having the skill to defeat the slot machines. Because even if you spend many years playing them, you can't figure it out how it works other than having a huge chance to lose rather than winning.

It seems what you say is a little biased. yes, I don't understand what you mean by saying "Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners".
however, if we talk about skill-based slot machines. it seems, we would very much doubt it. because, referring to some of the references that I read. slot machine games are strictly based on pure luck, even though they involve RNG and RTP. but in truth, it is hard to tell the difference between a game that is skill-based and a slot game that is purely luck-based.

And if, i referred to the link the first OP shared. As the article mentioned, skill-based slot machines are a new breed that are replacing the older semi-slot scenarios. however, it seems that basically the game types are the same. to be honest, I'm quite clueless about skill-based slot machines. even, if this actually existed. I'm interested to try it.

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Quote from: Porfirii on April 03, 2023, 11:14:18 AM

This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.

You are probably misunderstanding the whole concept here, the implementation of a skill-based bonus round doesn't mean that the luck factor is removed, there cannot be a game of gambling that can be won without luck, no matter how much changes, developments, and implementations are made for it, it will still be a game of luck at the end of the day.

Your winnings will still be dependent on luck even in a skill-based slots machine, the only difference will be is that you will be given a bonus round where you can maximize your winnings by playing a skill-based game since we don't have any more information about it so far, that's all you should know for now.

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I just think of it. Maybe they found traditional slots can be apply with skills is because those big winners able to hit big winnings from what they think they applied skills but on reality, they just hit lucky that time. I mean, how can we apply skills at these luck-based games?

The skills that can be applied here is, managing our bankroll to last for long term playing.

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Regardless if traditional slots can be applied with skills, nothing will change the fact that it's all about luck.

For me, I just go with the flow and if there's a chance that I can play slots at physical casinos, I would love it.

Currently, I'm hook-playing with online slots so that's what I prefer for now.

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Quote from: Porfirii on April 03, 2023, 11:14:18 AM

This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.

Indeed, the nature of Man, one man's food, another man's poison Grin

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I stopped playing slot games mostly because it is based on luck, I decide to throw my weight to sports betting which allows, not skill per say, but knowledge of sports and other stuff, apply my knowledge has made be to stand a better chance at winning games compared to when I relied solely on luck.

If there be a luck and skill based slot machines, like I've said before, I would play only skill based slot machine, I have no business with luck as I believe in my skills far more than I believe in luck.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 28, 2023, 01:56:58 AM

Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

Are you talking about offline or online skill based slots, if so which casino is providing them. Without playing the game, it is hard to share the opinion as i have no idea about the skill based slots other than the free rolls how come you will be able to apply your skills.

Quote from: Porfirii on April 03, 2023, 11:14:18 AM

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If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.

Fair point, it is hard to defeat a machine if it is a skill based game Cheesy

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This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.

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Quote from: STT on April 02, 2023, 03:51:19 PM

Poker based rules to slot machine is one I've seen. Not sure I'd call it skill based as its still not actual poker, only if you were playing other people also with that same model in a connected way perhaps. Again I do think thats possible but havent seen it recently, not common so far as I know either.

That's effin cool. It was like you are playin two games at one. It does saves money and we also have the chance to double, triple, and so on.. our money easily because skills does matter in here. Anyone can be really good at any skill based game as long as they will dedicate enough time to learn and study how to take more advantage of the game. Each of us has sometimes has our own definition of skill games.

There are even some who treat a casino games like dice a skill game only because they can formulate a strategy with it but for me I don't consider it as one. As for you, you only consider a game a skill game if it's played by a player versus another player and not by a computer.

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Quote from: Fortify on April 02, 2023, 03:38:27 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on March 28, 2023, 01:56:58 AM

Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck¹ as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to² display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

It is maybe no surprise that they do not give any actual, real life examples, of a "skill based" slot machine. Every single slot machine out there has been engineered to take money in for the casino and not to let the player win in the long run. This article - from two years ago - uses words like profit, as if it's possible to win in the long term from this type of game, when simple mathematics tells you otherwise. You might get very lucky, out of some freak set of variance or targeted psychological engineering, in the short run - but you will not win long term. At the very least, these machines cost money to run and the company has overheads to pay which require them to take at least a certain amount of your money, never to be returned.

Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners, not the gamblers. I was thinking if that really exists, how this casino will even survive? No, those things are baseless and out of reality. Slot machine games are known to be pure luck-based games - I couldn't really imagine someone having the skill to defeat the slot machines. Because even if you spend many years playing them, you can't figure it out how it works other than having a huge chance to lose rather than winning.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on April 01, 2023, 01:09:38 AM

As far as I can remember while there have been some people over the years which have won a lot of money by playing slots, at the same time not a single one of them did so with skill, basically every single one of them cheated the slot machine in some way or form.

And with this in mind plus the very high house edge which is present on those machines, I will say that slot machines are probably one of my least favorite games I can find at any casino.

I also feel that some people have succeeded in winning the slot game. But the slot games they have won seem luck-based like other slot games. But some people may play in skill-based slot games like @OP said. But it's still difficult to find slot games.

Slot games seem to have become one of my favorite games. I'm still good at controlling myself so nothing bad happens. And if you say slot games are gambling games that you don't like, what do you usually play?

Quote from: Lanatsa on April 01, 2023, 03:17:52 PM

What skills actually?

There's no skills involve when you do really play slots and this is why lots of people do really love on playing it because you could really just simply press the roll button or would pull up the lever
for you to get those numbers rolling or images which would really be neither give out a winning run/roll or not.Lots of people do get interested on this one because it does give out
instant results and having the probability on hitting huge numbers which is something that make things interested for people to play on.Applying
strategy is something that it is really out of concept.

Slot games are the easiest gambling games because they are no special requirements. We just have to write down the number of bets we want and we can choose the smallest bet to start playing and the casino allows that too. And this slot game has succeeded in making many people come back to play it because they are still curious about their final result. Maybe some people use various bet amounts to win a lot of money and think it is a special strategy they use to win.

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