badecker is at it again...
funny part is he thinks religions sets people free
he doesnt realise more deaths are attributed to religion than anything
its religious people that consider people evil if they dont go to a certain location on a sunday. or if they love someone they are not married to or if... the list goes on
just because laws means your not free to walk into a school and shoot kids, does not mean your a slave.
just because you think your faith makes it ok to massacre many does not make you free
until you can actually understand the true plain meaning of freedom and slavery. you ill be stuck digging at a hole you cant escape.
badecker, your own ignorance is your prison
Topic: slavery always was the condition of 99%+ of the worlds society and even elites - page 3. (Read 795 times)
January 02, 2020, 12:59:38 PM
January 02, 2020, 12:48:41 PM
Slavery started as a voluntary thing that people did. Adam and Eve listened to the Serpent and ate the fruit, after God had told them that they would die if they ate. They volunteered themselves into slavery to the Devil and to death. We, having their genes passed down to all people, haven't figured out how to back ourselves out of the death slavery, yet.
being a slave to god is then a good thing? or for egalitarian atheists being a slave to the infrastructure or central bank (commuinism) is a good thing?
shall we return to slavery then? the problem is as soon as there is a major power using slavery that is not racially defined, everyone anytime in the world could get caught and get enslaved by criminals
Being a slave to God is good. Why? Because, Galatians 5:1:
Quote from: https://biblehub.com/galatians/5-1.htm
It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
In other words, God set us free in Christ and His work of salvation that He did on the cross. Become a Christian by believing this, and never stop believing it, so that you don't burden yourself by a yoke of slavery again.
Of course, if your freedom is in slavery to death and destruction...
January 02, 2020, 12:28:00 PM
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
But then again, Slaves are still humans and are capable of learning and evolving. I'd say them being under a master and undergoing miscellaneous chores is because of their "current" incapability to do whatever they want. But after let's say, few years? That Slave would rise up and quit his job right? I'd say that's the reason for uprisings in the past to occur.
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
slave labour never was creative it was simply law value labour that had to be oversighted, slavemasters and slave owners of today are managers and equity holders, the system never changes 99% of humanity are always somehow in chains.
american government self claims publicly that human rights are god given temprorary privileges nothing else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6fbAIWJB3Q
i wonder why they then attacked christian royalty in europe that had those god given human rights and privileges. nevertheless it allied with muslim monarchies against communism,
today usa becomes an anarchic form of communism with private tyrany pockets in it.
Slavery started as a voluntary thing that people did. Adam and Eve listened to the Serpent and ate the fruit, after God had told them that they would die if they ate. They volunteered themselves into slavery to the Devil and to death. We, having their genes passed down to all people, haven't figured out how to back ourselves out of the death slavery, yet.
being a slave to god is then a good thing? or for egalitarian atheists being a slave to the infrastructure or central bank (commuinism) is a good thing?
shall we return to slavery then? the problem is as soon as there is a major power using slavery that is not racially defined, everyone anytime in the world could get caught and get enslaved by criminals
January 02, 2020, 11:24:48 AM
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
But then again, Slaves are still humans and are capable of learning and evolving. I'd say them being under a master and undergoing miscellaneous chores is because of their "current" incapability to do whatever they want. But after let's say, few years? That Slave would rise up and quit his job right? I'd say that's the reason for uprisings in the past to occur.
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
slave labour never was creative it was simply law value labour that had to be oversighted, slavemasters and slave owners of today are managers and equity holders, the system never changes 99% of humanity are always somehow in chains.
american government self claims publicly that human rights are god given temprorary privileges nothing else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6fbAIWJB3Q
i wonder why they then attacked christian royalty in europe that had those god given human rights and privileges. nevertheless it allied with muslim monarchies against communism,
today usa becomes an anarchic form of communism with private tyrany pockets in it.
Slavery started as a voluntary thing that people did. Adam and Eve listened to the Serpent and ate the fruit, after God had told them that they would die if they ate. They volunteered themselves into slavery to the Devil and to death. We, having their genes passed down to all people, haven't figured out how to back ourselves out of the death slavery, yet.
January 02, 2020, 09:32:07 AM
job creation is the privilege of the rich and the banksters. they are therefor the slavemasters and the salary dependent workers the slaves
you seem to have no clue what real slavery is,, and im starting to think your unemployed as your starting to appear to not even know what real work is like
maybe comeback with an opinion on slavery when even after working 80 hours all your given is a bowl of soup and a few bruises with threats of death
January 02, 2020, 08:25:09 AM
There's a big difference between being a slave and a plantation worker. There's a difference between being a slave to your job and being property.
Around the Haw Ivan the emperor was treated as a slave but also in the traditional society 99% of the traditions were that slaves were among the lower castes along with the upper classes of the society. They captured the property of the poor and enslaved them.
January 02, 2020, 06:30:51 AM
so its better to be forced to worry about your own income, instead of having and employer working for your sustainment
if you dont like your job... get another one. no one is forcing you to stay.
a simple 'i quit' is all thats needed
thats the big difference between things
slaves cant just say 'i quit' and find another job.
if you cannot see the difference then please learn it. dont compare slavery to these days working environments. they are no where near the same.
by the very fact that you can afford electric and phonebill and a device to be on this forum.
by the very fact that you have free time to be on this forum
by the fact that no employer/government has whipped or hanged you for being on this forum shows that modern day life is not slavery
so dont try to deminish the meaning of true slavery to be thought of as what we experience in modern times. true slavery was far worse and should not be compared to modern working environments
job creation is the privilege of the rich and the banksters. they are therefor the slavemasters and the salary dependent workers the slaves
January 01, 2020, 10:42:12 PM
so its better to be forced to worry about your own income, instead of having and employer working for your sustainment
if you dont like your job... get another one. no one is forcing you to stay.
a simple 'i quit' is all thats needed
thats the big difference between things
slaves cant just say 'i quit' and find another job.
if you cannot see the difference then please learn it. dont compare slavery to these days working environments. they are no where near the same.
by the very fact that you can afford electric and phonebill and a device to be on this forum.
by the very fact that you have free time to be on this forum
by the fact that no employer/government has whipped or hanged you for being on this forum shows that modern day life is not slavery
so dont try to deminish the meaning of true slavery to be thought of as what we experience in modern times. true slavery was far worse and should not be compared to modern working environments
January 01, 2020, 02:44:21 PM
There's a big difference between being a slave and a plantation worker. There's a difference between being a slave to your job and being property.
so its better to be forced to worry about your own income, instead of having and employer working for your sustainment
January 01, 2020, 02:43:27 PM
if you take the elites around ivan the terrible you will also observe rich elites that where treated like slaves by their emperor
January 01, 2020, 12:48:50 PM
There's a big difference between being a slave and a plantation worker. There's a difference between being a slave to your job and being property.
January 01, 2020, 12:38:51 PM
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
But then again, Slaves are still humans and are capable of learning and evolving. I'd say them being under a master and undergoing miscellaneous chores is because of their "current" incapability to do whatever they want. But after let's say, few years? That Slave would rise up and quit his job right? I'd say that's the reason for uprisings in the past to occur.
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
no master wants a slave that could anytime run away, thats an investment you can't rely on, there where reasons slaves where used as property many african americans where treated almost like family members in the end they even got the name of their slave masters.
regards
the problem with acceptance of slavery though is, that if it exists anyone could anytime theoretically get enslaved by criminals or greedy people
Technically we already have slaves in jail.
They were forcibly put in rooms with bars and are sometimes forced to do work.
I think they should be better utilized.
January 01, 2020, 11:12:09 AM
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
But then again, Slaves are still humans and are capable of learning and evolving. I'd say them being under a master and undergoing miscellaneous chores is because of their "current" incapability to do whatever they want. But after let's say, few years? That Slave would rise up and quit his job right? I'd say that's the reason for uprisings in the past to occur.
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
no master wants a slave that could anytime run away, thats an investment you can't rely on, there where reasons slaves where used as property many african americans where treated almost like family members in the end they even got the name of their slave masters.
regards
the problem with acceptance of slavery though is, that if it exists anyone could anytime theoretically get enslaved by criminals or greedy people
January 01, 2020, 11:02:16 AM
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
Exactly. But that is what I said in my post at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53487396.
When NASA or the media says something like "We went to the moon in 1969," do they mean that we all went? Do they mean that every last person on earth or in the U.S. went? No, of course not.
So, what did they mean? They meant that some people willingly donated to the project, and others were enslaved through their taxes to take part indirectly.
January 01, 2020, 09:15:05 AM
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
But then again, Slaves are still humans and are capable of learning and evolving. I'd say them being under a master and undergoing miscellaneous chores is because of their "current" incapability to do whatever they want. But after let's say, few years? That Slave would rise up and quit his job right? I'd say that's the reason for uprisings in the past to occur.
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
slave labour never was creative it was simply law value labour that had to be oversighted, slavemasters and slave owners of today are managers and equity holders, the system never changes 99% of humanity are always somehow in chains.
american government self claims publicly that human rights are god given temprorary privileges nothing else https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6fbAIWJB3Q
i wonder why they then attacked christian royalty in europe that had those god given human rights and privileges. nevertheless it allied with muslim monarchies against communism,
today usa becomes an anarchic form of communism with private tyrany pockets in it.
January 01, 2020, 09:12:36 AM
i think your downplaying slavery abit
true slavery was the guys chained together so they couldnt escape the fields. the women were raped
and they both were not fed much because when the harvest season was over the land owners didnt care, they could get a fresh crew off the ships the next year so why feed the current crew over winter.
true slavery had torture, rapes, disease, malnutrition, death. involved.
it wasnt just 'low pay'
..
i do agree that the modern workplace doesnt have a happy work/life balance and doesnt often offer a good living wage. but saying todays workplaces are slavery just kinda makes real slavery seem like its acceptable..
true slavery was not acceptable.
standards of living have increased. even without workplace ethics.. just human rights and equal rights has raised standards above slavery standards. .. the whole 'living standard' goalpost is way above slavery. but some can argue that its not a true happy free life of happiness and contentment with acceptable standards
true slavery was the guys chained together so they couldnt escape the fields. the women were raped
and they both were not fed much because when the harvest season was over the land owners didnt care, they could get a fresh crew off the ships the next year so why feed the current crew over winter.
true slavery had torture, rapes, disease, malnutrition, death. involved.
it wasnt just 'low pay'
..
i do agree that the modern workplace doesnt have a happy work/life balance and doesnt often offer a good living wage. but saying todays workplaces are slavery just kinda makes real slavery seem like its acceptable..
true slavery was not acceptable.
standards of living have increased. even without workplace ethics.. just human rights and equal rights has raised standards above slavery standards. .. the whole 'living standard' goalpost is way above slavery. but some can argue that its not a true happy free life of happiness and contentment with acceptable standards
whats the difference if there is a banking cartel that exploits you and buys your women, so you can't marry at all because you have to earn money while your master just prints or lends it.
January 01, 2020, 09:11:01 AM
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
But then again, Slaves are still humans and are capable of learning and evolving. I'd say them being under a master and undergoing miscellaneous chores is because of their "current" incapability to do whatever they want. But after let's say, few years? That Slave would rise up and quit his job right? I'd say that's the reason for uprisings in the past to occur.
Taking into @BADecker example, You couldn't jump no matter how high, cause you are a slave. To gravity. BUT, give time, you yourself would learn to subjugate gravity right? Meaning, You are now a master of your own, so Jumping higher and to the moon is of no issue by then.
January 01, 2020, 07:52:44 AM
The world is really ugly and cruel maybe they're asking for some equality. Where in america the black people gets bullied or oppressed or treated lowly because of their color, maybe because they know what happened in history about their ancestors being slaves that's why they somehow carry some hatred towards the white, but in reality any people gets oppressed all the time and we're all slaves to something.
December 31, 2019, 11:41:33 AM
But slavery is good. Why? Because most people don't know how to live free even if it is offered to them. The slave makers, who live off the enslaved people, keep their hordes alive and well fed. They do this so the slaves can work harder for them.
How dumb are people? Imagine that you wanted to go to the moon. So, you go out on the parking lot at night when the moon is shining, and you look at the moon shining brightly up there. Then you jump. You jump again, harder. Then you give it your best, but you still can't jump to the moon. You are not free. You are a slave...
... and a good thing, too. Because if you had jumped hard enough to jump to the moon, you would have died in the airless, frigidity of space.
Good thing you are a slave. If you can't figure a way out of your slavery, you are probably safer within.
Btw, there are some smarter people who stole some of your labor so that they could "jump" to the moon using rockets. If you don't like being a part of their jumping into space, stop paying taxes... you slave, you.
How dumb are people? Imagine that you wanted to go to the moon. So, you go out on the parking lot at night when the moon is shining, and you look at the moon shining brightly up there. Then you jump. You jump again, harder. Then you give it your best, but you still can't jump to the moon. You are not free. You are a slave...
... and a good thing, too. Because if you had jumped hard enough to jump to the moon, you would have died in the airless, frigidity of space.
Good thing you are a slave. If you can't figure a way out of your slavery, you are probably safer within.
Btw, there are some smarter people who stole some of your labor so that they could "jump" to the moon using rockets. If you don't like being a part of their jumping into space, stop paying taxes... you slave, you.
My first though was what the fuck did I just read lol
But, yeah, it's true that through history people voluntarily became slaves because they weren't able to feed themselves on their own so they subjugated themselves to a master who took care of them.
@OP
You don't have to use the banking system & therefore you're not a slave.
December 31, 2019, 08:26:50 AM
But slavery is good. Why? Because most people don't know how to live free even if it is offered to them. The slave makers, who live off the enslaved people, keep their hordes alive and well fed. They do this so the slaves can work harder for them.
How dumb are people? Imagine that you wanted to go to the moon. So, you go out on the parking lot at night when the moon is shining, and you look at the moon shining brightly up there. Then you jump. You jump again, harder. Then you give it your best, but you still can't jump to the moon. You are not free. You are a slave...
... and a good thing, too. Because if you had jumped hard enough to jump to the moon, you would have died in the airless, frigidity of space.
Good thing you are a slave. If you can't figure a way out of your slavery, you are probably safer within.
Btw, there are some smarter people who stole some of your labor so that they could "jump" to the moon using rockets. If you don't like being a part of their jumping into space, stop paying taxes... you slave, you.
How dumb are people? Imagine that you wanted to go to the moon. So, you go out on the parking lot at night when the moon is shining, and you look at the moon shining brightly up there. Then you jump. You jump again, harder. Then you give it your best, but you still can't jump to the moon. You are not free. You are a slave...
... and a good thing, too. Because if you had jumped hard enough to jump to the moon, you would have died in the airless, frigidity of space.
Good thing you are a slave. If you can't figure a way out of your slavery, you are probably safer within.
Btw, there are some smarter people who stole some of your labor so that they could "jump" to the moon using rockets. If you don't like being a part of their jumping into space, stop paying taxes... you slave, you.
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