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Quote from: seleme on December 21, 2020, 05:51:11 PM

Is there any alternative version to check live RTP except slotcatalog?

I only know Bitcasino and Slotcatalog.com
Any other sites guys?

Quote from: seleme on December 21, 2020, 05:51:11 PM

AFAIK, the slots master finds the real RTP based on billion spins, how do you apply this information to your gameplay?

Do you mean the game developer? Each software should pass the quality control (and other certifications) and RTP is on the checklist.
More RTP = more chance to win = less money to burn. Ceteris Paribus, you can play longer on 96% RTP than on 94% RTP Book of Dead.

I'd spent more time on high RTP software.

Quote from: seleme on December 21, 2020, 05:51:11 PM

I have made a few hundred spins on the suggested slots and one more question: What do you think about the Fat Santa or Fat Rabbit slots?

You need a bigger bankroll on Push Gaming since they usually have $0.2 or $0.25 minimum.
The game itself is fine, as it doesn't have a crazy max multiplier.

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Is there any alternative version to check live RTP except slotcatalog? AFAIK, the slots master finds the real RTP based on billion spins, how do you apply this information to your gameplay? I have checked bitcasino but the hourly or daily RTPs are available for the single website. Stake.com only shows the simple general RTP, btw. I have made a few hundred spins on the suggested slots and one more question: What do you think about the Fat Santa or Fat Rabbit slots?

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 21, 2020, 02:21:49 AM

Quote from: roycilik on December 20, 2020, 12:55:51 PM

I got results that were beyond my expectations

The party starts here:

I wish the luck continues as well, but be careful mate as from my experience, after I got big wins like that, I ended up with a long drought.
However, I still believe some people have better luck in slots than others.

In my case, I'm just not lucky in gambling, and maybe my luck is for other areas of my life Cheesy

*crying inside*

As you know I think we share the same idea of life.As I also after got big wins with huge multipliers soon after I got broke and it was this exact moment which has kept me away from slots,now the max I play is 10 Euros with minimum bet and if I win I quit and the same if I lose.I think I have been lucky in other areas of life so far.

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Quote from: roycilik on December 20, 2020, 12:55:51 PM

I got results that were beyond my expectations

The party starts here:

I wish the luck continues as well, but be careful mate as from my experience, after I got big wins like that, I ended up with a long drought.
However, I still believe some people have better luck in slots than others.

In my case, I'm just not lucky in gambling, and maybe my luck is for other areas of my life Cheesy

*crying inside*

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 09, 2020, 06:11:30 AM

He was to busy playing on "Push Gaming" -

I'm still here :v

Quote from: panjul07 on December 20, 2020, 11:39:52 AM

Wait for a while guys, soon there will be someone share a great win on Razor Shark as he got 3000x multiplier.
This lucky little devil gets his luck while he was playing with a very bad emotion

Yeah, you know lately I've been feeling really bored and unlucky
but in the end, I got results that were beyond my expectations

The party starts here:

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Wait for a while guys, soon there will be someone share a great win on Razor Shark as he got 3000x multiplier.
This lucky little devil gets his luck while he was playing with a very bad emotion

Thanks to this lucky guy for sharing it with some of us including me.
Wish the luck continues mate.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 16, 2020, 07:48:05 AM

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Quote from: TGD on December 16, 2020, 06:52:31 AM

There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same?

No, more lines = more RTP (generally). For example, in games like Hotline, Book of Shadows, adding more lines will change your winning probability, thus change the RTP.
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I think it should be noted that with adding more lines the RTP increases only very slightly

Quote from: https://help.bwin.de/de/casino-help/slots/gameiombookofshadows

Game ID BookOfShadows

The theoretical return to the player for this game is 96.01%.
The theoretical return to the player for 4 Shadow Rows is 96.07%.
The theoretical return to the player for 5 Shadow Rows is 96.19%.

and, unless you are making millions of spins, you will hardly notice the difference between 96.01% and 96.19%.

Yet, I can't deny it, psychologically you "feel" that your winning probability is increasing with adding more lines. That's true.

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 16, 2020, 07:29:13 AM

Quote from: TGD on December 16, 2020, 06:52:31 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on December 16, 2020, 06:43:01 AM

Quote from: AhmadM on December 15, 2020, 09:16:14 PM

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

Same with slot. There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same? AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

No, that's surely not guaranteed. 90% RTP means that with millions and millions bets made, by various players collectively, 90% of the total amount wagered will be returned to all the bettors, again, collectively. Some of them can win thousands of USD within just few bets, while others can lose thousands, winning almost nothing with many rolls. This is especially true about high volatility slots.

Exactly and this is where most people get confused.They think that if they play 1000 Eur they should get 900 Eur back on their session.Slots don’t work like that but are based on a programming algorithm which decides when to give back that 90% if the Rtp is 90% in a certain game.There is some pre programming to this but this happens completely randomly when the slot is in a “full” state meaning has reached its initial target of money and now gives back until it hit 90% Rtp and this is the theoretical Rtp.

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Quote from: TGD on December 16, 2020, 06:52:31 AM

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

These games also have a house edge, so theoretically, RTP is 100% - HE.

Quote from: TGD on December 16, 2020, 06:52:31 AM

There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same?

No, more lines = more RTP (generally). For example, in games like Hotline, Book of Shadows, adding more lines will change your winning probability, thus change the RTP.

Quote from: TGD on December 16, 2020, 06:52:31 AM

AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

There are two kinds of RTP, (1) theoretical and (2) actual/live.
(1) Theoretical RTP is basically what is being programmed, which will/should be accurate after hundreds of millions of spins. Let's say the total input was $100,000,000 the software should produce the output of $90,000,000 (assumed 90% RTP).
(2) If you only do hundreds of spins, you still play on a 90% RTP software, but the actual RTP will be based on your luck. If you walk out smiling with a double bankroll, then the live RTP is 200%.

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Quote from: TGD on December 16, 2020, 06:52:31 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on December 16, 2020, 06:43:01 AM

Quote from: AhmadM on December 15, 2020, 09:16:14 PM

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

Same with slot. There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same? AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

No, that's surely not guaranteed. 90% RTP means that with millions and millions bets made, by various players collectively, 90% of the total amount wagered will be returned to all the bettors, again, collectively. Some of them can win thousands of USD within just few bets, while others can lose thousands, winning almost nothing with many rolls. This is especially true about high volatility slots.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 16, 2020, 06:43:01 AM

Quote from: AhmadM on December 15, 2020, 09:16:14 PM

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

I have concerns too about computation of RTP, I stumble on evolution gaming games like monopoly and crazy time, they are not actually slot but they still have RTP, I wonder how they come up to there declared value while the game has different betting option.

Same with slot. There are different option on slot that you can add more lines to bet so that you increase chance of winning. Is RTP percentage will be the same? AFAIK, RTP is the return to player over time so if I have a hundred bet, 90% of my bet will be my profit if the RTP was 90%.

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Quote from: AhmadM on December 15, 2020, 09:16:14 PM

how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games?

The best practice is to check the in-game (i)/info button or sometimes (?)/help button on each software, and a good provider will always state their RTP there.
Concerning Bitinity's suggestion, yes, some casinos offer RTP info near the game icon, but sometimes it's not accurate (mistype and such).

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Quote from: AhmadM on December 15, 2020, 09:16:14 PM

Quote from: mu_enrico on December 14, 2020, 12:18:14 AM

~snip~

I'm not a fan of (maybe yet) slots games, just sometimes play it for fun not really chasing profits and choosing any games that I like. By the way talking about RTP on slots I have a question about it, how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games? Whether we can find out this kind of information inside the games or should searching it first by search engine?

Nowadays most casinos give the information about the RTP, for example https://prnt.sc/w3mb5d Most providers also provide the information about the RTP of every game they have. You can open the game and find the information symbol to find about the RTP. Of course the easiest way to find it out is by using the information provided by the casino as what you can see on above screenshot as you do not need to open the game just to check the RTP.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 14, 2020, 12:18:14 AM

~snip~

I'm not a fan of (maybe yet) slots games, just sometimes play it for fun not really chasing profits and choosing any games that I like. By the way talking about RTP on slots I have a question about it, how we know the percentage of RTP in slots games? Whether we can find out this kind of information inside the games or should searching it first by search engine?

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Quote from: roycilik on December 11, 2020, 02:54:30 PM

If you ask me for my favourite game, then I'll choose:
1. Rise Of Merlin by Play'n Go, RTP: 96.58%
2. Wild Wild Riches by Pragmatic Play, RTP: 96.77%

Approved!

New games:
* Frozen Gems - PnG
* Jingle Bells Power Reels - Red Tiger
* Katmandu Gold - Elk
* Big Bad Wolf Christmas - Quickspin
* Aloha Christmas - Netent

I like Frozen Gems a lot even though it burned my balance Cheesy

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 12, 2020, 07:28:53 AM

Imagine if we can earn at least $50 in a day just from 1 referral, this guy must be so lucky to have high roller as one of his referral.

Please sir...., it's not the right time to talk about this Cheesy

Quote from: panjul07 on December 12, 2020, 07:28:53 AM

back to topic, Any other suggestion of slot games to play?
I feel that it is a bit boring to play our own favorite slot all the time.
Need to play something different but with good chances to win big

Wanna try Tiki Tumble?
RTP: 96.49%
provider: Push Gaming

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Quote from: roycilik on December 09, 2020, 03:45:41 PM

Today I received a message from someone who makes big profits without spending funds, who is the guy? Grin

Big profit without spending funds? Is it even possible? It must be just his lucky day.
I also see there are many gamblers win big from faucet or free spins only (I think you are one of them

)
Other ways to win big without spending our funds is by earning affiliate commission.
Imagine if we can earn at least $50 in a day just from 1 referral, this guy must be so lucky to have high roller as one of his referral.

back to topic, Any other suggestion of slot games to play?
I feel that it is a bit boring to play our own favorite slot all the time.
Need to play something different but with good chances to win big

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 10, 2020, 12:40:39 AM

It's actually crazy when you think about it! Every day the God gamer always does the bragging and it's often thousands x. The last time I tried to win, I ended up with health problems, with too much sitting and stuff.

Because of this "achievement" as a God gamer, I will give @roycilik the honor to name two of his favorite slots on the OP.

Ah what the helll Cheesy

I'm not "Dewa Judi", I'm just a slot lover :v

If you ask me for my favourite game, then I'll choose:
1. Rise Of Merlin by Play'n Go, RTP: 96.58%
2. Wild Wild Riches by Pragmatic Play, RTP: 96.77%

Rise Of Merlin is suitable for those of you who like high multipliers
- Minimum bet: $0.1
- RTP: 96.58%

Wild Wild Riches, If you are a jackpot lover, then this game is perfect (at least good for me )
- Minimum bet: $0.25 (Double chance feature $0.3)
- RTP: 996.77%

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 06, 2020, 04:45:32 PM

you are the master of multiplier of Indo Gang who always share big win

Quote from: ryzaadit on December 09, 2020, 06:11:30 AM

I bet you already got his screenshot message about his winning.

It's actually crazy when you think about it! Every day the God gamer always does the bragging and it's often thousands x. The last time I tried to win, I ended up with health problems, with too much sitting and stuff.

Because of this "achievement" as a God gamer, I will give @roycilik the honor to name two of his favorite slots on the OP.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 06, 2020, 04:45:32 PM

Its been a while since my last play at Red Tiger after I hit a jackpot more than a month ago. Should we come back to play it again?

I have to say "yes", if you playing on the difference platform :v

Quote from: ryzaadit on December 09, 2020, 06:11:30 AM

He was to busy playing on "Push Gaming" - Tiki Tumble and Milky Way - Nolimit, I bet you already got his screenshot message about his winning.

Hahahaha
Today I received a message from someone who makes big profits without spending funds*, who is the guy? Grin

Another big win from Pragmatic Play
I haven't played at Leprechaun Goes Wild in a while, today I tried to play it and the result? Aw..aw....

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