Slots 102: The Provably Fair Slots (with poll) - page 4.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on October 21, 2020, 08:37:21 AM

OP has been updated as we have one more provably fair slot added in the collection

Casineos slot!

It has a jackpot feature and pays three adjacent symbols anywhere on the grid. But I still a bit disappointed because no wild, scatter, and bonus rounds.
But who knows if slot players like this gameplay.

What do you think?

Frankly speaking it is not a type of slot games that I like.
I have to say that I'm not even attracted to how it looks like as it looks like an old classic slot game with less features.
No scatter, no wilds, and no bonus rounds makes it even worst if you ask me.
Although it has a jackpot, but I do not think it is enough to attract slot lovers.
I was expecting casineos could make something better than this one, hope the dev will improve or re-work the game to make it more attractive.

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Quote from: Lavander on October 21, 2020, 08:45:42 AM

Never thought that a lot of known and reputable gambling sites has a slots game, is there a chance we could know the fairness of those?

Provably fair slot usually has a fairness page that contains how to verify and stuff.

Disclaimer: I didn't dig too deep to verify its (slots listed on OP) legitimacy/fairness.

Quote from: Lavander on October 21, 2020, 08:45:42 AM

Mostly the gambling sites I've visited with a lot of slot games I didn't managed to check the fairness of my roll.

If you see a lot of slot games, most likely, those are not provably fair slots. You cannot verify the spin and have to trust the 3rd party provider for the results.
AFAIK, only Stake and Bitsler, have two provably fair slot games.

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Never thought that a lot of known and reputable gambling sites has a slots game, is there a chance we could know the fairness of those? Mostly the gambling sites I've visited with a lot of slot games I didn't managed to check the fairness of my roll.

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OP has been updated as we have one more provably fair slot added in the collection

Casineos slot!

It has a jackpot feature and pays three adjacent symbols anywhere on the grid. But I still a bit disappointed because no wild, scatter, and bonus rounds.
But who knows if slot players like this gameplay.

What do you think?

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2020, 10:25:53 AM

Yeah, if you click "Watch calculation," you will be redirected to fairness page which only contains dice and roulette:

I've tried contacting live support to ask about that and looks like they haven't updated for the slots yet

Quote from: mu_enrico on August 23, 2020, 10:25:53 AM

Too bad it doesn't have bonus rounds when you hit 3 scatter symbol, only 6x multiplier Cry

https://paradice.in/slots?modal=bet&id=27343&game=SLOTS

There is no free spins bonus, I have to skip this game Cheesy

https://paradice.in/slots?modal=/slots-rules

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Quote from: roycilik on August 23, 2020, 09:57:25 AM

There is only Dice and Roulette that can be verified

Yeah, if you click "Watch calculation," you will be redirected to fairness page which only contains dice and roulette:

I'll wait for the dev to fix this first and then include paradice on the list. Too bad it doesn't have bonus rounds when you hit 3 scatter symbol, only 6x multiplier Cry

https://paradice.in/slots?modal=bet&id=27343&game=SLOTS

Anyways, thanks @panjul07 for the information, much appreciated.

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Quote from: panjul07 on August 23, 2020, 08:50:20 AM

New provably fair slot just popped up few days ago at Paradice.in named Paradice Island if I'm not misinterpret it.
I havent tried it yet but it looks similar to the Scarab Spin where we can choose how many lines to play but seems that there is no Bonus round/free spins even though it has Scatter.
It is a common slot (5x3 reels) with 20 paylines, max payout is 10k with 1 line (5 wilds).
Check this out http://prntscr.com/u4g30v and you may add it on the list @mu_enrico

I'm not sure this game can be included in the list (for now)
I've tried playing this game, but the bet results cannot be proved (verified)
https://paradice.in/slots?modal=bet&id=27110&game=SLOTS

There is only Dice and Roulette that can be verified

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New provably fair slot just popped up few days ago at Paradice.in named Paradice Island if I'm not misinterpret it.
I havent tried it yet but it looks similar to the Scarab Spin where we can choose how many lines to play but seems that there is no Bonus round/free spins even though it has Scatter.
It is a common slot (5x3 reels) with 20 paylines, max payout is 10k with 1 line (5 wilds).
Check this out http://prntscr.com/u4g30v and you may add it on the list @mu_enrico

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Quote from: mu_enrico on August 21, 2020, 01:45:06 AM

True! The volatility is so appealing for low/medium volatility lovers, plus the HE is low compared to mainstream slots provider.

Yeah it's better than Samurai hohoh.
Sometimes many people playing on the High volatility because they are tempted to get a super high multiple without considering the risk (that would be really bad)

Quote from: mu_enrico on August 21, 2020, 01:45:06 AM

https://i.ibb.co/s9C6d23/scarab-spin.png

0.00016765 BTC has been magically turned into 0.01 BTC Grin

I won't leave you alone :v

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My apologies, I decided to reply the following comment (along with a little bit bragging) in the suitable thread Grin

Quote from: roycilik on August 20, 2020, 08:25:31 AM

Recently I liked the Scarab Spin game, maybe this can be an alternative for those who like low/medium volatility (2.16% Edge)

True! The volatility is so appealing for low/medium volatility lovers, plus the HE is low compared to mainstream slots provider.

Look, look:

0.00016765 BTC has been magically turned into 0.01 BTC Grin

No way I would bet that high on mainstream slots.

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With more users, it's understandable that the taste will lean towards mainstream since we can't expect every crypto users to be nerd/geek/ancap. Users want a fun gaming experience and often don't care about RTP, fairness, etc. I think educating users is more complicated than following the demand; thus, the need for "much fun" slots is unavoidable. Luckily, provably fair and excellent gameplay are not mutually exclusive therefore we can have both

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Quote from: mu_enrico on July 22, 2020, 12:46:21 AM

Bump!

C'mon guys, don't you guys like provably fair?
Or perhaps, your favorite slots aren't listed here? Let me know Wink

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Bitvest   - 0 (0%)
BitcoinVideoCasino   - 1 (20%)
Stake   - 1 (20%)
MintDice   - 0 (0%)
BGaming   - 2 (40%)
Coinroyale   - 0 (0%)
Crypto-Games   - 0 (0%)
Bitsler   - 1 (20%)
Others   - 0 (0%)

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Unfortunately I think provably fair is much less important to the Bitcoin gamblers of today than of 5+ years ago. Which is too bad because I'd argue that it's more important today than ever before as scams continue to be more rampant in both the crypto and casino industry with many bad actors.

It would be great if BitcoinTalk users can start to hold this technology up again to a high degree like before. Back in 2013, if your site wasn't provably fair you couldn't even really post because all the users would ignore you.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on July 27, 2020, 02:29:40 AM

On the other hand, it is necessary to pass without stating that these services are not strictly considered for the users and that they are programmed to ensure that their users do not always gain. In fact, this applies not only to these two services, but to all the services on the list, because they always earn cash in gambling. For this reason, I think that no service is working equally and fairly.

I tried to dwell into your comment multiple times, I think what you think about "provably fair" is different than what I (or the community) know. Fairness is about the outcome cannot be manipulated, that the provider cannot know the result before the action/spin happened. The result then recorded and can be verified independently. Of course there will be HE, but as long as the algorithm is working properly, it is provably fair. They earn the profit in a fair way.

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Although I have not used many services included in the survey options or not actively using them, my preferences have been Bitvest and Stake. As someone who has only used these two services in this list, I would like to say that the games provided by these services are very nice and have effective powers for the user to play games. On the other hand, it is necessary to pass without stating that these services are not strictly considered for the users and that they are programmed to ensure that their users do not always gain. In fact, this applies not only to these two services, but to all the services on the list, because they always earn cash in gambling. For this reason, I think that no service is working equally and fairly.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 22, 2020, 11:06:47 AM

Quote from: DarkDays on July 22, 2020, 10:55:02 AM

Is there any reasons crypto.games isn't on this list? It also offers slots with a provably fair checking tool:

Currently supports over a dozen cryptocurrencies.

I think you need to read the OP once again, or at least check the pool as it is already listed there on both the pool and the opening post. mu_enrico even provided the screenshot of the slot game of crypto.games like what you have just shown, did you miss it when you read the opening post? Or did you miss it because mu_enrico type it "crypto-games" instead of "crypto.games"?

Ah, looks like you're right.

I simply did CTRL + F "crypto.games" and it didn't come up.

Looks like the thread is more comprehensive than it first appeared Wink

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 22, 2020, 10:55:02 AM

Is there any reasons crypto.games isn't on this list?

Yes, I'm more familiar with "crypto-games.net" so subtracting ".net" the phrase become "crypto-games."
I just realized the site now uses crypto.games as its main URL.

Nevertheless, just like @Bitinity said, I've put it on #7

Quote from: Ucy on July 23, 2020, 03:19:30 AM

Well, perhaps the games are not very fair (maybe not more than 80% fair) because they are not decentralized or fully decentralized?
And the need to void/disqualify bets will be drastically reduced on well decentralized betting system.

Well, that's how the mainstream slots have been set up. Don't use it if you don't like it. Unfortunately, most of the best-seller title didn't use provably fair when we can verify hashes.

Anyways, I'd rather encourage new developers to implement provably fair than to ask big players to change their way of doing business.

Quote from: slapper on July 22, 2020, 12:21:56 PM

One vote for Bitsler

I'm impressed with their new "indie" slot as well.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on July 16, 2020, 11:35:06 AM

Quote from: Ucy on July 16, 2020, 03:56:19 AM

Interested to know this too. Is it hard/expensive to implement the provable fair feature (or better provable fair feature) on their systems, or they just choose not to?
I guess honest opinion from the owners would be one of the best way to have an idea why.

Yea, we can only guess about it.

Perhaps it's not important since they can void/disqualify the bet anyway, so what's the point of provably fair... Plus user's action can influence the result, maybe it will make the RTP and volatility calculation more difficult.

If you interested in conspiracy theory, well, maybe the game isn't fair (with near miss and stuff to encourage players to spend more).

Well, perhaps the games are not very fair (maybe not more than 80% fair) because they are not decentralized or fully decentralized?
And the need to void/disqualify bets will be drastically reduced on well decentralized betting system.

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One vote for Bitsler. I have been playing Bitsler since the date it was created. Never feel boring or tired with this platform. They always make a lot of changes to interest their players. The provably fair system is obviously awesome and this is what makes them gain a huge number of players.

Their slots game is great. However, most of the time I play dice. Spending too much time on various games will make me become exhausted and unable to do anything in real life. Gambling is for entertainment only and we have to go back to reality to work and earn money

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Quote from: DarkDays on July 22, 2020, 10:55:02 AM

Is there any reasons crypto.games isn't on this list? It also offers slots with a provably fair checking tool:

Currently supports over a dozen cryptocurrencies.

I think you need to read the OP once again, or at least check the pool as it is already listed there on both the pool and the opening post. mu_enrico even provided the screenshot of the slot game of crypto.games like what you have just shown, did you miss it when you read the opening post? Or did you miss it because mu_enrico type it "crypto-games" instead of "crypto.games"?

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Is there any reasons crypto.games isn't on this list? It also offers slots with a provably fair checking tool:

Currently supports over a dozen cryptocurrencies.

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