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Topic: Slovenia: No Capital Gains Tax on Bitcoin (Read 7823 times)

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January 07, 2014, 05:33:51 AM
#45
Bitcoin gains look to be free of CGT in Cyprus.

http://uk.practicallaw.com/4-500-7179
sr. member
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January 07, 2014, 04:25:53 AM
#44
Tax on any income if evil. When they started America they intended it never be paid, "the power to tax is the power to destroy". Today most are brainwashed like it's normal to tax income. I don't care if Slovenia doesn't tax even if it did I wouldn't pay.
legendary
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January 04, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
#43
Finally I'm moving to Dubai this year, 0% tax there  Grin
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
January 03, 2014, 12:27:40 AM
#42


Consultation on just where in the world that it would be advantageous to become fiscally resident & what this would entail (ie, just paying taxes there on local &/or global income &/or some physical residency, property ownership, investment, citizenship or dual citizenship, etc...), how it would effect any biz done with citizens of other countries re potential tax liabilities in their countries.

Is it best to be trading as a person or as a company, income versus capital gains or loans from the company to oneself, offshore companies & bank accounts, trusts & charitable foundations, inheritance, deductibles, time limits for visiting other countries so as not to get enmeshed in their tax reporting requirements, like generally not more than six months per year - but more specifically 183 days for the States (but to take in to account previous years stays which are counted as fractions of a day & added on) or the UK with maybe not more than 51 consecutive days, etc.

Plus some more stuff that I haven't itemized as yet due to the hols & traveling, also whatever comes up at the initial consultation & a few undisclosed things as well.

good luck  Smiley
donator
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January 03, 2014, 12:20:50 AM
#41
I'm actively looking in to this atm & should know more in the next couple of weeks.

Quote:

Hi Redacted,

I’d be happy to discuss further with you.    Do you want to have an initial phone conversation first?    I don’t want to scare you off, but I want to ensure you are comfortable with our firm’s fees (i.e. they just raised my rate to $720/hr) and we would likely need a $10,000 retainer to get started.

Feel free to give me a call to discuss.  I’m  generally around tomorrow morning and then on the 30th and 31st of December.

I look forward to speaking with you,

Best,

Redacted


Dood's charging approx 1 BTC an hour  Cool  he comes most highly recommended as being top of the field for this with many clients of much fame & fortune, we'll see...


ah ! what is this about ?

Consultation on just where in the world that it would be advantageous to become fiscally resident & what this would entail (ie, just paying taxes there on local &/or global income &/or some physical residency, property ownership, investment, citizenship or dual citizenship, etc...), how it would effect any biz done with citizens of other countries re potential tax liabilities in their countries.

Is it best to be trading as a person or as a company, income versus capital gains or loans from the company to oneself, offshore companies & bank accounts, trusts & charitable foundations, inheritance, deductibles, time limits for visiting other countries so as not to get enmeshed in their tax reporting requirements, like generally not more than six months per year - but more specifically 183 days for the States (but to take in to account previous years stays which are counted as fractions of a day & added on) or the UK with maybe not more than 51 consecutive days, etc.

Plus some more stuff that I haven't itemized as yet due to the hols & traveling, also whatever comes up at the initial consultation & a few undisclosed things as well.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
January 02, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
#40
I'm actively looking in to this atm & should know more in the next couple of weeks.

Quote:

Hi Redacted,

I’d be happy to discuss further with you.    Do you want to have an initial phone conversation first?    I don’t want to scare you off, but I want to ensure you are comfortable with our firm’s fees (i.e. they just raised my rate to $720/hr) and we would likely need a $10,000 retainer to get started.

Feel free to give me a call to discuss.  I’m  generally around tomorrow morning and then on the 30th and 31st of December.

I look forward to speaking with you,

Best,

Redacted


Dood's charging approx 1 BTC an hour  Cool  he comes most highly recommended as being top of the field for this with many clients of much fame & fortune, we'll see...


ah ! what is this about ?

Unless you're really rich or you want to do something really hard, you will get the same result with one who charges $150-$200.

Of course you will need to search more, and know he's good.
legendary
Activity: 1148
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things you own end up owning you
January 02, 2014, 06:51:52 AM
#39
I'm actively looking in to this atm & should know more in the next couple of weeks.

Quote:

Hi Redacted,

I’d be happy to discuss further with you.    Do you want to have an initial phone conversation first?    I don’t want to scare you off, but I want to ensure you are comfortable with our firm’s fees (i.e. they just raised my rate to $720/hr) and we would likely need a $10,000 retainer to get started.

Feel free to give me a call to discuss.  I’m  generally around tomorrow morning and then on the 30th and 31st of December.

I look forward to speaking with you,

Best,

Redacted


Dood's charging approx 1 BTC an hour  Cool  he comes most highly recommended as being top of the field for this with many clients of much fame & fortune, we'll see...


ah ! what is this about ?
donator
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January 01, 2014, 10:48:08 PM
#38
I'm actively looking in to this atm & should know more in the next couple of weeks.

Quote:

Hi Redacted,

I’d be happy to discuss further with you.    Do you want to have an initial phone conversation first?    I don’t want to scare you off, but I want to ensure you are comfortable with our firm’s fees (i.e. they just raised my rate to $720/hr) and we would likely need a $10,000 retainer to get started.

Feel free to give me a call to discuss.  I’m  generally around tomorrow morning and then on the 30th and 31st of December.

I look forward to speaking with you,

Best,

Redacted


Dood's charging approx 1 BTC an hour  Cool  he comes most highly recommended as being top of the field for this with many clients of much fame & fortune, we'll see...
newbie
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December 29, 2013, 06:45:18 PM
#37
oh I thought so Grin

I don't see how they could enforce that anyway.

Easy. You have no job but a big house and a car?

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5Tmk5rlRabg/UORLsq71o2I/AAAAAAAAHQk/gb_aHhL8qLo/w497-h373/dalek_explain.jpg

haha I know a lot of people like that in Slovenia. To me that's awesome. But Slovenians are jealous (stereotype that's somewhat true) and they want regulation to make sure nobody can make money unless he's a government slave.
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
December 29, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
#36


I meant Thai taxes.

Let's see if they can invade America to get her:)


(also I'm not sure she even owes Thai tax as they have no legal ruling at all on BTC)

Okay, then I'm probably completely wrong. I was under the impression you lived in Thailand and was in the US for holiday only.

Well, what she bought with her BTC will be staying in the USA. We will not bring the Lambo back to the USA. Honestly I have no idea what we should be doing with taxes and there is not an accountant on this earth who I can find to help me.



@ mmitech. Yes, I hold a crazy amount of LTC. Trying to get someone to sell me a Bugatti for LTC... So far no luck.

what If I get you one? I take LTC at 1/4 its Price now ?  Grin

Edit: I take my words back, that car is worth $4 million  Shocked ?
sr. member
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bluemeanie
December 29, 2013, 04:19:40 PM
#35
so open your bitcoin hedge fund in Slovenia.  See what happens when you have a dispute and you need to take it to Slovenian courts for resolution.
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
December 29, 2013, 04:17:47 PM
#34


I meant Thai taxes.

Let's see if they can invade America to get her:)


(also I'm not sure she even owes Thai tax as they have no legal ruling at all on BTC)

BTW if you mind me asking you this question, I see you only talking about BTC lately, many Bitcoiners doesn't know that you are one of the biggest LTC holders !! do you still hold that portion or did you give up LTC and completely moved to BTC ?
legendary
Activity: 1148
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things you own end up owning you
December 29, 2013, 02:44:12 PM
#33
to become a citizen member of Slovenia there is few ways already:

1- be a family member of a Slovenian citizen and get it after 3 years of living here (my case).
3- live and work in Slovenia for 7 years and apply for it
4- finish high studies in Slovenia and apply for it ( PHD, Master...)
5- or be so famous, or athlete and you will get it as well ( there were cases were athlete got it to play for the national team)

at least this what I know, maybe there are other ways ? although I am not sure about the 4th..


getting the Slovenian citizenship might look easy but believe me it is not, there is no bureaucracy or anything like that, paper work is the easiest thing, now learning Slovenian language is one of the hardest things, you have to be integrated in order to get the citizenship which usually means that you have to understand/speak/write Slovenian, there is a test for that that you take in the faculty of philosophy in Ljubljana it is well sophisticated and a real hard one that most people fail to pass.

and there is the other and hard thing (some countries take it as a betrayal) , cancelling your original citizenship when you are accepted here, Slovenian law doesn't allow multiple citizenship.

But citizenship isn't needed to live and pay taxes in Slovenia. Any EU passport will do.

yes you do not to be a Slovenian citizen if you are already EU citizen, you have to just move and register your new address here....
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
December 29, 2013, 02:40:14 PM
#32
to become a citizen member of Slovenia there is few ways already:

1- be a family member of a Slovenian citizen and get it after 3 years of living here (my case).
3- live and work in Slovenia for 7 years and apply for it
4- finish high studies in Slovenia and apply for it ( PHD, Master...)
5- or be so famous, or athlete and you will get it as well ( there were cases were athlete got it to play for the national team)

at least this what I know, maybe there are other ways ? although I am not sure about the 4th..


getting the Slovenian citizenship might look easy but believe me it is not, there is no bureaucracy or anything like that, paper work is the easiest thing, now learning Slovenian language is one of the hardest things, you have to be integrated in order to get the citizenship which usually means that you have to understand/speak/write Slovenian, there is a test for that that you take in the faculty of philosophy in Ljubljana it is well sophisticated and a real hard one that most people fail to pass.

and there is the other and hard thing (some countries take it as a betrayal) , cancelling your original citizenship when you are accepted here, Slovenian law doesn't allow multiple citizenship.
newbie
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December 29, 2013, 01:29:47 PM
#31
oh I thought so Grin

I don't see how they could enforce that anyway.
newbie
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December 29, 2013, 01:06:21 PM
#30
slightly off topic for those who joke about slovenian citizenship Grin

Slovenia is a little bit of a tax haven right now. Nobody really pays taxes except government employees. There isn't much regulation on banks. You can pretty much have money in the bank and don't have to prove where you got it from. However, things are changing, there's a regulation being proposed that would introduce 70% tax on any income you can't prove the source of and it would be retroactive for 5 to 10 years. Also, a lot of other stuff I don't know the details for. Some regulation will probably happen in 2014. It's sad, there's so much corruption in Slovenia that people will probably buy into it, not realizing how in the long run this hurts the economy even more.

just wanted to chime in because we're talking about Slovenia, not sure if I even understand what the change for bitcoin is




legendary
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December 29, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
#29
I have heard you can get Cambodian citizenship for around $75,000.

No idea how their taxes work.

The easiest option might be Rwanda. And there is no income tax as well.

But if you are serious, then Dominica / St. Kitts / St.Vincent is a good option. Visa-free travel to 150+ nations!
newbie
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December 29, 2013, 08:29:45 AM
#28
BittBurger thanks for sharing the news. Wow no capital gain tax on profit made by selling bitcoins but I guess this is just a technique to persuade bitcoin holders to sell all the digital currencies so I will recommend not to sell bitcoins as bitcoins will rise above $2000 soon so keep on holding it don’t sell them.
legendary
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December 28, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
#27
The sad thing for americans is no matter where you live or work you still have to pay american taxes, even if you have not been to america in 50 years...


crazy


edit: even if you have dual citizenship

wtf? can't be true.
legendary
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December 28, 2013, 05:41:21 PM
#26
In Dubai you pay 0%. But you need employment there to be able to pay tax.
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