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hero member
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November 26, 2014, 03:36:56 PM
#23
Not technically actually lol. That's a great point actually.. I messaged my friend who is a big fan and very knowledgeable on BitSHares, I asked him if should add. Id he says it qualifies or someone can give some details on an upcoming project we can add them right in! Smiley

OK  Smiley Your friends should know me from BitShares forum as well (I use same nick as here).  Smiley

PS: BitShares in, I make 1st vote for BitShares!  Smiley
PS: Thanks for adding BitShares

Great to see Bitshares on the list now.

 Smiley
legendary
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November 26, 2014, 01:59:23 PM
#22
Do any of these other projects have a white paper besides ripple's Codius?

http://files.ripoffcoin.com/whitepaper_ripoffcoin.pdf

Yeah of course. www.BitHalo.org has it. It was the first smart contracting client in the world released almost a year ago with actual working software.
legendary
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November 26, 2014, 01:56:01 PM
#21
Ladies and gentlemen, let the wild wild west Smart Contracts duel begin! Votes and comments please!!! Grin

Honestly...how can you miss bitshares?  It isn't even on the list??? at #4 on coinmarketcap----can't even make it onto the list??

Ethereum doesn't even have a blockchain yet and you have them on the list...Mastercoin is dead.  Ripple is so centralized it might as well be Goldman Sachs.  Counterparty sucks (as long as it is tied to the Bitcoin blockchain).  NXT is probably the only one up there worth it (and maybe bitHalo)...but even bitHalo could be a user-issued asset that is easily purchasable with the bitUSD, bitGLD, bitSLV...etc on the BitShares Decentralized exchange.

please fix this and look like you have a clue about the crypto landscape as it really is?

I could actually add, didn't intentionally try to leave anyone out Smiley, I just messaged Testz I wanted to hear some answers to some fundamental questions. This question should serve for anyone who'd like something added.

A.) BitShares is Smart Contracting software? I have never viewed them as so.. But I could be mistaken Smiley
B.) What type of contracts do they or can they intermediate?
C.) How do they enforce these contracts or support enforcement?
D.) Are they being used for contracting or as another means currently, such as speculation?

These are very serious questions teams should ask themselves. If a project can't satisfactorilyanswer these in a way that categorizes said project as a business or persoanl conduit then maybe it's premature or maybe it's mis-categorization. Maybe they would be better known as something else or could coin a new crypto term.. Just saying

You're not sure if bitshares has smart contracting but you call MSC and XCP smart contract platforms?

Oh lord... Either "smart contract" means any blockchain app in which case bitshares is more advanced than all but maybe NXT and ethereum, or it means "scriptable blockchain" which only ethereum has working.

I agree not all of these companies have anything that is a smart contract, just mostly proposals. Halo and Etherium are the only ones that are exactly smart contracts. (Ripples was a proposal and untested and I have yet to read up on NXT)
Scriptable blockchain is not needed to have on blockchain. Smart contracts are officially defined as "self executing". Thus Halo is superior to Etherium because it doesn't bloat the blockchain. Instead contracts are enforced with deposits and python scripts can be used to perform any type of distributed agreement or app.

In other words P2P > "Everything On the Blockchain"  since Etherium will be crippled with bloat.

Simple additions can be added to BlackHalo like checklocktimeverify. Also Halo is not a coin its cross platform. The ONLY cross platform proposal. Etherium turing complete is a buzz word. Qora has AT and its turing complete. A few minor additions to Bitcoin scripting can solve most other enhancement issues like "checklocktimeverify" and loops. Again, loops arent needed if you can do P2P without blockchain/bandwidth bloat. Even Etherium contradicted themselves when they said they would use magnet links to avoid bandwidth.

Also, Bitshares is interesting but I fail to see how they are enforcable. They have different asset tags. But there is no method of enforcing those values.
legendary
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November 26, 2014, 12:57:59 PM
#20
Not technically actually lol. That's a great point actually.. I messaged my friend who is a big fan and very knowledgeable on BitSHares, I asked him if should add. Id he says it qualifies or someone can give some details on an upcoming project we can add them right in! Smiley

OK  Smiley Your friends should know me from BitShares forum as well (I use same nick as here).  Smiley

PS: BitShares in, I make 1st vote for BitShares!  Smiley
PS: Thanks for adding BitShares
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November 26, 2014, 12:55:46 PM
#19
Definitely blackcoins blackhalo  and bithalo
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November 26, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
#18
BitHalo vote:

BitHalo is smart contracting http://bithalo.org/  it's working,proven, and indeed the daddy of contracts.

Well done for changing business for the better BitHalo
newbie
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November 26, 2014, 12:38:13 PM
#17
I could actually add, didn't intentionally try to leave anyone out Smiley, I just messaged Testz I wanted to hear some answers to some fundamental questions. This question should serve for anyone who'd like something added.
...

Some one already answer for your questions for:
 Counter Party
 MasterCoin
 Ripple (Codius)

Where I can read about it?

I ask to add BitShares because they also have a plans to implement smart contracts as many other "coins" which listed in your list.

Not technically actually lol. That's a great point actually.. I messaged my friend who is a big fan and very knowledgeable on BitSHares, I asked him if should add. Id he says it qualifies or someone can give some details on an upcoming project we can add them right in! Smiley
legendary
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November 26, 2014, 12:18:09 PM
#16
I could actually add, didn't intentionally try to leave anyone out Smiley, I just messaged Testz I wanted to hear some answers to some fundamental questions. This question should serve for anyone who'd like something added.
...

Some one already answer for your questions for:
 Counter Party
 MasterCoin
 Ripple (Codius)

Where I can read about it?

I ask to add BitShares because they also have a plans to implement smart contracts as many other "coins" which listed in your list.
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November 26, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
#15
This should be a no brainer: BitHalo

This Cool superior
legendary
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November 26, 2014, 11:41:16 AM
#14
Do any of these other candidates have working software? You can have a contract but you need user interface. Also i think Reggae Middletons Ultracoin software has some sort of derivative it deserves a mention here.

But really, derivatives and asset exchange is NOT the same as a self enforcing contract.

To my knowledge BitHalo is the only software that actually is a smart contract. The other ones don't have any way to enforce them. And derivatives dont count. Can you enforce a binding agreement with any other software?
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 26, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
#13
Ladies and gentlemen, let the wild wild west Smart Contracts duel begin! Votes and comments please!!! Grin

Honestly...how can you miss bitshares?  It isn't even on the list??? at #4 on coinmarketcap----can't even make it onto the list??

Ethereum doesn't even have a blockchain yet and you have them on the list...Mastercoin is dead.  Ripple is so centralized it might as well be Goldman Sachs.  Counterparty sucks (as long as it is tied to the Bitcoin blockchain).  NXT is probably the only one up there worth it (and maybe bitHalo)...but even bitHalo could be a user-issued asset that is easily purchasable with the bitUSD, bitGLD, bitSLV...etc on the BitShares Decentralized exchange.

please fix this and look like you have a clue about the crypto landscape as it really is?

I could actually add, didn't intentionally try to leave anyone out Smiley, I just messaged Testz I wanted to hear some answers to some fundamental questions. This question should serve for anyone who'd like something added.

A.) BitShares is Smart Contracting software? I have never viewed them as so.. But I could be mistaken Smiley
B.) What type of contracts do they or can they intermediate?
C.) How do they enforce these contracts or support enforcement?
D.) Are they being used for contracting or as another means currently, such as speculation?

These are very serious questions teams should ask themselves. If a project can't satisfactorilyanswer these in a way that categorizes said project as a business or persoanl conduit then maybe it's premature or maybe it's mis-categorization. Maybe they would be better known as something else or could coin a new crypto term.. Just saying
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
November 26, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
#12
Ladies and gentlemen, let the wild wild west Smart Contracts duel begin! Votes and comments please!!! Grin

Honestly...how can you miss bitshares?  It isn't even on the list??? at #4 on coinmarketcap----can't even make it onto the list??

Ethereum doesn't even have a blockchain yet and you have them on the list...Mastercoin is dead.  Ripple is so centralized it might as well be Goldman Sachs.  Counterparty sucks (as long as it is tied to the Bitcoin blockchain).  NXT is probably the only one up there worth it (and maybe bitHalo)...but even bitHalo could be a user-issued asset that is easily purchasable with the bitUSD, bitGLD, bitSLV...etc on the BitShares Decentralized exchange.

please fix this and look like you have a clue about the crypto landscape as it really is?

+5%
newbie
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Merit: 0
November 26, 2014, 07:49:12 AM
#11
Ladies and gentlemen, let the wild wild west Smart Contracts duel begin! Votes and comments please!!! Grin

Honestly...how can you miss bitshares?  It isn't even on the list??? at #4 on coinmarketcap----can't even make it onto the list??

Ethereum doesn't even have a blockchain yet and you have them on the list...Mastercoin is dead.  Ripple is so centralized it might as well be Goldman Sachs.  Counterparty sucks (as long as it is tied to the Bitcoin blockchain).  NXT is probably the only one up there worth it (and maybe bitHalo)...but even bitHalo could be a user-issued asset that is easily purchasable with the bitUSD, bitGLD, bitSLV...etc on the BitShares Decentralized exchange.

please fix this and look like you have a clue about the crypto landscape as it really is?

..."yeah .................. Bitshares got some funk
member
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November 26, 2014, 07:29:20 AM
#10
Ladies and gentlemen, let the wild wild west Smart Contracts duel begin! Votes and comments please!!! Grin

Honestly...how can you miss bitshares?  It isn't even on the list??? at #4 on coinmarketcap----can't even make it onto the list??

Ethereum doesn't even have a blockchain yet and you have them on the list...Mastercoin is dead.  Ripple is so centralized it might as well be Goldman Sachs.  Counterparty sucks (as long as it is tied to the Bitcoin blockchain).  NXT is probably the only one up there worth it (and maybe bitHalo)...but even bitHalo could be a user-issued asset that is easily purchasable with the bitUSD, bitGLD, bitSLV...etc on the BitShares Decentralized exchange.

please fix this and look like you have a clue about the crypto landscape as it really is?
sr. member
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legendary
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November 26, 2014, 06:44:49 AM
#8
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The World’s First Blockchain Core
November 25, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
#7
BitHalo as the developer came up with the concept.  Cool
hero member
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November 25, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
#6
In short; The one who releases it as open source and it is peer reviewed. I would expect one of the big IPO cryptos.
newbie
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November 25, 2014, 03:34:55 PM
#5
Do any of these other projects have a white paper besides ripple's Codius?

I think they all do.. More importantly though, I think a few of those actually have working prototypes out. I know BitHalo does because I actually have used that one to buy a domain from a guy in EU and I believe CounterParty and Mastercoin both have something out. Smiley
sr. member
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The 4th industrial revolution!
November 25, 2014, 03:34:27 PM
#4
Do any of these other projects have a white paper besides ripple's Codius?

http://files.ripoffcoin.com/whitepaper_ripoffcoin.pdf

Thanks Stealth, you are the most helpful person on this site.  I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up being the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Wink

For all your help, please let me know if you need anything in return, maybe an XRP or two since you talk about it soo much?
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