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July 22, 2022, 03:45:57 AM
#27
I don’t know if this possible anymore base on the security of online casino nowadays, Maybe you can freely bet using multiple account but the casino will eventually notice that because of the IP [...]
If you use a different address with each account, then the security system of any casino website will not be able to detect that you are cheating. ( changing IP though VPN is worst as there is no VPN that can offer unlimited IP addresses so it is likely that your ip address is previously has already used by someone and is already blacklisted)

For example, if you have 10 smartphones + sim cards then you create accounts on a casino with unique email address you have 10 accounts but any website will consider these 10 accounts as 10 different users.

How does he even avoid to be banned from those casinos, do they even ask him for KYC?
Probably people use a non-KYC casino when they want to create multiple accounts. 
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July 22, 2022, 01:05:56 AM
#26
I envy such persons,what in earth do they think they are doing?Do they think they are the smarter guys compared to normal people,do they not get exhausted easily,I got exhausted as soon as I saw the pic with a lot of mobile phones.I don't think they live long in what they are doing as they will be surely caught in no time from reputable casinos which have a lot of common audit and security checking,sure you can use TOR browser or VPN-s but you will still get caught because the security checks are stronger than they were before with the improving of technology.
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July 22, 2022, 01:02:51 AM
#25
This guy is most likely a genius. Staying focused and not getting confused while playing on 29 smartphones is a job for a genius person.
I guess that he has 29 IP addresses, which means 29 different SIM cards(probably). In my country only 8 SIM cards are allowed per person.
The most important question is does he really own 29 smartphones, or some of them are borrowed from someone else. Grin
How much does he pay for internet? Is he using public Wi-Fi(which is a really bad move).
Maybe he doesn't know that multi-tab browsing exists and you could open multiple tabs in one browser. Anti-tracking browsers also exist(like Dolphin browser). He could use Dolphin browser, if he's too afraid of getting caught. Grin However, I'm no expert in cyber security and online privacy.
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July 22, 2022, 12:01:51 AM
#24
Haha! It's looks like a low cost mining rig but with a twist like those people milking Axie Infinity back in the days when SLP farming with multi account is still a thing.

But yeah? Doing this would certainly lower the gameplay's quality as there are more infos to take into account than just one table. Plus, I am certain that your edge here would be the volume of card per hands and not the gameplay quality.
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July 21, 2022, 11:48:36 PM
#23
I've seen this type of strategy in NFT games too. It's not just in gambling or maybe it's minimum in gambling that does this kind of thing.
Taking advantage of freebies, early adopters' fast ROI, and more.
It's to avoid the TOS of multi-accounting that will ban them.
The strategy, data mode. Not Wi-Fi with the same internet. The profits should be better than how much will you pay for the monthly plan of each smartphone. So they have investments too, I am not saying it's a good thing.  Cheesy
These are the ones who destroyed some of the NFTs that I supported and invested with.
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July 21, 2022, 11:38:23 PM
#22
I will not believe it if I have not seen the video, the guy is not for the show up he just wants to do it and he is good at it, but that's to many work load, especially the charger who admitted he also has many chargers to power those phones, but this is insane I don't think I can do this but he is well organized has a photographic memory to recall his next move for every phone that he is playing, he can get himself in the Guinness book of world record for this.
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July 21, 2022, 11:27:28 PM
#21
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This looks really stressful to me, how many phones does he have😅  he certainly cannot keep this up...You did something similar to this some 15years ago you say, you couldn't keep up i guess, so you had to stop. This will be mentally exhausting for anyone who decides to give this a try maybe after seeing this. Lol, this paints a clear picture of greed IMO.
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Not that way, years ago phones weren't that smart Wink

Actually it was just an additional monitor and I used Holdem manager, it helped in decisions, and it wasn't that strange for those years, in the same way you only play with 5-8% of the deck or only premium hands.

They were sections to get out breakeven and win some FPPs on poker stars, it's something I couldn't do for more than an hour, but it was the times of the level supernova, supernova elite levels that gave a lot of advantages, you could even order a Porsche Cayman and I know about types They did this daily for daily sections of up to 8-12 hours. 

There were other levels for normal humans like me, cash, live tournament buy-ins, etc.


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You have to be on another level to do this, it's insane I would not even think of  doing this with three accounts, the guy on the pic should be well organized or a had a perfect memory to remember every single activity on each account, the big question is, is it worth it what you're going to get with this, it's risky and its mentally challenging, I don't see the enjoyment on this kind of task, its possible on another task like bounty hunting I've seen it myself but playing games with multiple accounts on multiple device its to much work load.
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Exactly!
Over the years I came across the bio of one of those supernova elite players, where he even urinated in a plastic bottle so as not to get up, today married with a family, he suffers the effects of those years.

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I think this was posted as a joke and that the intention of the photo is fake.

The source is reliable, maybe you didn't notice but there is a video, see the links provided(OP).




Attached details of what I mentioned above.

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www.pokerstars.com › en › newsWin a Porsche just like Dario Minieri's - Pokerstars Blog
May 14, 2009 · Dario Minieri with his Porsche Cayman S. Now all our players have the chance to win a Porsche Cayman S – just like Dario’s – for just 2,000 FPPs. That’s because PokerStars is
The page does not exist on the official PS website but the template remains. What years...those years!.

The story of the first winner can be found on the wiki:
 
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is an online poker player who was the first person to collect enough Frequent Player Points to buy an automobile with them,
Source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dario_Minieri
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July 21, 2022, 09:14:32 PM
#20
This is indeed insanity! The man has brought multi-tabling to a whole different level! And to think that he's not just doing it for the sake of trying or experimenting; he's doing it in an 8-hour shift. Can you believe that? It's damn crazy! I can't imagine myself doing this, reaching this extreme point, even if poker is my favorite game. I guess the speed and focus that you need to have will take away the fun. Rather than enjoying a game of poker, it seems it would only exhaust me.
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July 21, 2022, 07:10:53 PM
#19
That is probably a fake situation to create hype on youtube for views. It's not possible for a human being to play on all those tables simultaneously while remaining efficient and sharped. Even if it were a simple repetitive grunt task where he needed to click the same buttons on every screens, it would be too much.

Just try playing 2 or 3 games of any kind (not necessarily gambling) at same time and observe what happens to your mind. It feels like it's going to blow up! Personally, I can't do this without having serious consequences later related to the body's capacity to relax and rest.
I doubt it's worth it just for the views and the guy already said it himself from the video that he does it because he wants to and once you're used to playing the game it'll eventually become muscle memory. Also, you'd have options to set your pre-move on poker, it only looks hard at first glance but it's possible since OP already said it himself.

How does he even avoid to be banned from those casinos, do they even ask him for KYC?
There's probably KYC but I don't think he's breaking the rules since multi tabling is allowed afaik.
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July 21, 2022, 06:33:03 PM
#18

~snip~

On the other hand, it seems that the type does everything correctly, since something like this is typical of managing several accounts in the same casino

Casinos today are very advanced in detecting and banning multi-accounts.
Did this individual use a different VPN for each smartphone? I highly doubt it.
It's insane to manage all this at the same time, a lot of work for a high probability of being banned and losing all the "invested" value in a very short time.
I think this was posted as a joke and that the intention of the photo is fake.
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July 21, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
#17



In particular it is insane, at least to do it that way, in my case when I doing MTT, more than 15 years ago I played at the maximum of 24 tables (poker), the rakeback in those years was fpp and really worth it, in any case it requires a lot of concentration, have time and a lot of youth. Smiley

I remember that with 2 monitors it was enough, what this guy does is insane. Now, the incredible thing about the story is that the guy does such a thing in Casino. (lol)

The wager is undoubtedly something that would work well in bot mode, for this type of initiative, but = I think it's something sick, I don't know! perhaps, I couldn't criticize it because the MTT worked for me.

On the other hand, it seems that the type does everything correctly, since something like this is typical of managing several accounts in the same casino.



You have to be on another level to do this, it's insane I would not even think of  doing this with three accounts, the guy on the pic should be well organized or a had a perfect memory to remember every single activity on each account, the big question is, is it worth it what you're going to get with this, it's risky and its mentally challenging, I don't see the enjoyment on this kind of task, its possible on another task like bounty hunting I've seen it myself but playing games with multiple accounts on multiple device its to much work load.
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July 21, 2022, 04:41:07 PM
#16
Multi-accounting is risky but many people do it. I even had an offer from a guy that I know who is making these accounts to work like that part-time. He works in a group of people who make accounts for players who later use them to multi-account and claim deposit bonuses and such. They mainly focus on fiat casinos and according to the guy the money is good. There are hundreds of people doing it every day and you don't even know if you're betting against an organized group. They often get banned that's why they need a lot of people with different IPs to keep the accounts active for them.
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July 21, 2022, 04:26:48 PM
#15
I see people that do this on online games and it's like farming more items and making their characters stronger through several accounts at the same time of playing it. But on the picture, this dude is insane. It's hard to think on how he can focus with that lots of devices and they're all active at the same time. I also remember when the hype for play to earn games, there were such like this so it's not just happening in casinos but in everywhere when it can be done.
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July 21, 2022, 04:19:18 PM
#14

Am not sure that this guy wanted to try and post this online because we do know that most players are only allowed one account thus it means that this guy would definitely get banned and playing that many hands at the same time on the same game can be beneficial as well ofcourse, what if you are pegged against yourself ? Since most games are online and playing multiplayer means the players online at the moment would be able to play with each other but it's so funny am seeing something like that for the first time, this guy might be the reason why the casino have banned multiple accounts per person 🤣
People sometimes do that for that exact purpose. There were cases of groups of players joining the same table at the same time to take money from that one or two unsuspecting random players that joined the table. They all communicated and knew their hands and would simply choose the best player to raise and go against the "victim" while the rest folded. Then they split the money.

If you played on many accounts and went against yourself with no other players, you could keep playing for a while hoping that someone will join the table and you'll have the whole table against him.
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July 21, 2022, 04:13:23 PM
#13
I do have those presumptions that people doing things too much and make it look cool just for the views.  Cool
That is a fact. People are constantly trying to find the most exciting thumbnail, video title, eccentric way of doing things in order to gather a public for the views.

I have always been fascinated by these players able to manage many tables together Roll Eyes ...
certainly here is a "record" case (among other things, he uses mobile phones and not a PC screen ... ) but I ask myself a question ... considering how much time/attention and other resources must be dedicated to an activity of this kind ...
is it really worthwhile? is the risk to be run adequately remunerated?
You mentioned other resources and it made me think it's not cheap to run so many devices at same time. You have to invest in equipments, energy to recharge all of them and there is also a natural degradation of each device, especially when using them often and for long periods of time. Someone must calculate every details very well before running a 'smartphone farm'.
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July 21, 2022, 04:02:37 PM
#12

is it really worthwhile? is the risk to be run adequately remunerated?

I think it is considering how many people keep on multi-accounting in different casinos.

I have always been of the idea (probably wrong) that if they put all this creativity, passion, multitasking ability and "desire to do" in a traditional job ... they would earn much more with less stress Roll Eyes
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July 21, 2022, 03:46:59 PM
#11
I don’t know if this possible anymore base on the security of online casino nowadays, Maybe you can freely bet using multiple account but the casino will eventually notice that because of the IP and bust you when you are about withdraw all your earnings from rakeback. We know many story about multi accounting that being busted and I’m pretty sure that doing this is very risky it might put your effort in to waste as well as the funds involved on all the accounts.

IP isn't a problem in this kind of setup because every Smartphone tab can use VPN.  Still, I can't believe that guy's ability to multitab.  I counted 29 gadgets being used simultaneously.  What a show of multi-tasking focus.

is it really worthwhile? is the risk to be run adequately remunerated?

I think it is considering how many people keep on multi-accounting in different casinos.
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July 21, 2022, 03:23:23 PM
#10
I have always been fascinated by these players able to manage many tables together Roll Eyes ...
certainly here is a "record" case (among other things, he uses mobile phones and not a PC screen ... ) but I ask myself a question ... considering how much time/attention and other resources must be dedicated to an activity of this kind ...
is it really worthwhile? is the risk to be run adequately remunerated?
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July 21, 2022, 02:57:04 PM
#9
That is probably a fake situation to create hype on youtube for views. It's not possible for a human being to play on all those tables simultaneously while remaining efficient and sharped. Even if it were a simple repetitive grunt task where he needed to click the same buttons on every screens, it would be too much.

Just try playing 2 or 3 games of any kind (not necessarily gambling) at same time and observe what happens to your mind. It feels like it's going to blow up! Personally, I can't do this without having serious consequences later related to the body's capacity to relax and rest.
This is what im going to say that it is really that impossible for you to engage and make out good decisions and even just executing your bets or move and i have counted those mobile phones numbers on the picture

and it shows 29x mobile which means that even just handling out 2-3 would really be already hard to deal with because you would really be needing that focus and concentration on playing something and deal with
multi accounts for whatever purpose you do have but having 29x or more ? then it is really just too impossible.

I do have those presumptions that people doing things too much and make it look cool just for the views.  Cool
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July 21, 2022, 02:52:04 PM
#8
In particular it is insane, at least to do it that way, in my case when I doing MTT, more than 15 years ago I played at the maximum of 24 tables (poker), the rakeback in those years was fpp and really worth it, in any case it requires a lot of concentration, have time and a lot of youth. Smiley

I remember that with 2 monitors it was enough, what this guy does is insane. Now, the incredible thing about the story is that the guy does such a thing in Casino. (lol)

The wager is undoubtedly something that would work well in bot mode, for this type of initiative, but = I think it's something sick, I don't know! perhaps, I couldn't criticize it because the MTT worked for me.

On the other hand, it seems that the type does everything correctly, since something like this is typical of managing several accounts in the same casino.

WyT?


Source image, capture  Youtube, poker news.https://www.pokernews.com/tours/wsop/2022-wsop/event-88-1000-super-turbo-nlhe/videos/multi-tabling-insanity-12890.htm


Like you say - that must have required immense concentration with a solid strategy of play behind it - presumably playing super tight with the hopes of picking off easy wins from bad players. You'll find that the people who go to such lengths are usually pretty creative and have found a strategy that works but requires scaling up rather than bigger betting. Like you, I struggle to look after 2 or 3 tables without fumbling at important moments, like multiple great hands coming out requiring attention at the same time, so to play this they must have lightning reflexes with lots of practice in playing poker efficiently. If you're able to calculate pot odds quickly then that can do a lot of the work for you, when you're sensible with betting and can read opponent behavior.
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