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Topic: Smoothie's Casascius 3-Coin Auction #2 - page 3. (Read 3544 times)

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 06, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
#30
bump ~10 hours left
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 06, 2015, 12:50:28 AM
#29
less than 24 hours.
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February 05, 2015, 10:58:32 PM
#28
i bid 5.725
legendary
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February 05, 2015, 04:02:19 PM
#27
5.7BTC
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February 05, 2015, 04:01:09 PM
#26
1BTC silvers have a hologram that's too big for the coin, so Casascius used his laser to melt the outer edge of the holos. On early coins, these melt rings were generally symmetrical. On later coins -- silver+gold especially -- many of the melt rings are terribly uneven. Check the pictures in OP.

ANACS, the third-rate coin grading service that is also the only place willing to grade Casascius coins, does not factor the hologram into their grading system IN ANY FASHION, so it's possible to have two coins with equal grades where one is much more visually appealing than the other.

Most collectors (vs flippers) avoid the silver+golds for this reason. I've had a few but have not kept a single one because I've never had one with a hologram worth keeping.

THAT SAID, if you're buying these coins to grade and sell, go ahead. Just make sure you sell before the market smartens up and starts buying the coin instead of the grade Wink

Thanks a lot for your explanation.
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February 05, 2015, 03:52:21 PM
#25
I do not think the hologram placement effects the value of the coin. I will say that I only kept perfectly placed holograms in my personal collection also only MS-67's.

It seems paradoxical...
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Loose lips sink sigs!
February 05, 2015, 03:46:16 PM
#24
Still a bargain!
legendary
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legendary
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February 05, 2015, 02:00:02 PM
#22

Most collectors (vs flippers) avoid the silver+golds for this reason. I've had a few but have not kept a single one because I've never had one with a hologram worth keeping.



Given how rare these are in terms of numbers, I don't think it makes sense to avoid them bases on the hologram unevenness.  It simply won't matter in the long run, especially if, like you say,  the majority are this way.

I do not think the hologram placement effects the value of the coin. I will say that I only kept perfectly placed holograms in my personal collection also only MS-67's.
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February 05, 2015, 12:03:02 PM
#21

Most collectors (vs flippers) avoid the silver+golds for this reason. I've had a few but have not kept a single one because I've never had one with a hologram worth keeping.



Given how rare these are in terms of numbers, I don't think it makes sense to avoid them bases on the hologram unevenness.  It simply won't matter in the long run, especially if, like you say,  the majority are this way.
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February 05, 2015, 12:02:13 PM
#20
1BTC silvers have a hologram that's too big for the coin, so Casascius used his laser to melt the outer edge of the holos....

A footnote--perhaps the greatest benefit to the laser-melt ring is the additional, if not foolproof security it provides, in the aftermath of the DEFCON Casascius hack announcement last year.  Old news, but for reference:
http://codinginmysleep.com/casascius-physical-bitcoins-cracked-at-defcon/
and Mike's response:
https://casascius.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/defcon-21-successful-compromise-of-the-hologram-reported/
legendary
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February 05, 2015, 09:59:11 AM
#19
1BTC silvers have a hologram that's too big for the coin, so Casascius used his laser to melt the outer edge of the holos. On early coins, these melt rings were generally symmetrical. On later coins -- silver+gold especially -- many of the melt rings are terribly uneven. Check the pictures in OP.

ANACS, the third-rate coin grading service that is also the only place willing to grade Casascius coins, does not factor the hologram into their grading system IN ANY FASHION, so it's possible to have two coins with equal grades where one is much more visually appealing than the other.

Most collectors (vs flippers) avoid the silver+golds for this reason. I've had a few but have not kept a single one because I've never had one with a hologram worth keeping.

THAT SAID, if you're buying these coins to grade and sell, go ahead. Just make sure you sell before the market smartens up and starts buying the coin instead of the grade Wink
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February 05, 2015, 09:36:54 AM
#18
I'm feeling lasered-hologram-edge deja vu  Cheesy

Post one that's symmetrical.

What do you mean exactly?
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 04, 2015, 10:13:42 PM
#17
bump
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 04, 2015, 04:06:28 PM
#16
All payment addresses are PGP signed and in the OP of my auction threads.

This will never change.

Beware of scammers.
legendary
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derp
February 04, 2015, 04:01:29 PM
#15
mullick managed to jump in with a bid before I was able to end the auction.

The good news for you is that I have a few sets of these so happy to honour your bid price and let the existing auction roll.



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5.5BTC

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/smoothies-casascius-3-coin-auction-2-945205

Hi,

I am pleased to inform you that your recent bid for my 3 X Casascius coins is the highest and therefore winning bid.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/8WljgRPl.jpg/[img]

Total due : 5.5BTC

Payment address : 1BbzqWTrPNA6ece4sn3HmcvrERv1BcFRTJ

After payment drop me a pm with the transaction I.D and your shipping information.

Thanks.

fyi, smoothiee is trolling bidders
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February 04, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
#14
Beautiful and significant coins offered here.  This along with smoothie's other similar auction, would seem to indicate an significant upswing in the Casascius market... 
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
February 04, 2015, 12:40:19 PM
#13
I'm feeling lasered-hologram-edge deja vu  Cheesy

Post one that's symmetrical and I'll bid... but it doesn't seem like you'll have a problem getting rid of these!

Lol so picky  Tongue
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 07:50:05 AM
#12
I'm feeling lasered-hologram-edge deja vu  Cheesy

Post one that's symmetrical and I'll bid... but it doesn't seem like you'll have a problem getting rid of these!
legendary
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February 04, 2015, 06:14:14 AM
#11
I bid 5.6 BTC
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