Topic: So... Al Qaeda are now our friends in Syria? Cool! - page 2. (Read 1948 times)

Didn't understand your last sentence. You mean USA is OK with its allies massacring "other" people, but not "their own people"?

I think I'm getting it wrong because is obvious nonsense. The USA didn't care much about Bahrein slaughtering its own citizens.

This is ONLY about the money. Human lives don't mean shit to those pulling the strings.

well sure it's a proxy war but imo also a civil war.
if a state lets its military force kill people because of their social affiliation to a certain ethnical group and minorities start taking sides in this conflict I don't know any other name for that.
i didn't mean that hamas forces are directly in syria but from what i know they are involved and support the rebellions and have divergent interests with hezbollah supporting the syrian military.
I don't think there will come a point in the near future where pressure is build on saudi-arabia.
A lot has to happen until western governments decide to put off their velvet gloves regarding gulf monarchies. (until they don't start massacring their own people)

 hamas isnt in Syria. hezbollah got into it when there border was being used like the Turkish border. The EU and USA sell Quatar and Saudi Arabia weapons, they give them to the mercinaries in Syria. Some of the same weapons and mercinaries that were used in the Lybian "revolution" are in Syria. This is a traveling pack that is used by gulf monarchies to destablize any threat to them, mainly secular non-islamic goverments. The only thing that will stop the war is if pressure is put on Saudia Arabia to stop payrolling the mercinaries. This is not a civil war , this is a proxy war.

I wouldn't say that Al-Qaeda in syria is funded by US. (perhaps more by accident because of the intransparency of the whole situation)

the rebellion forces in syria are split into several groups with different backgrounds:

according to an independent documentary i saw lately a lot of jihad fighters (most probably of Al-Qaeda) come to syria via the turkish border and can move freely within that border zone.
Supposedly these forces are financed by Saudi Arabians and turkey seems to be ok and its military takes no action against this.

Then there's the secularistic rebels that are financed by western governments and fight against assad not because of religious background but they just have enough of the dictatorship and nepotism of Assad Family representing a small minority, the alawites.

On top you have sunnites representing 70% of syrian society and a lot of other minorities (kurds, schiites, turkmen, palestenians, christians etc.).
Sunnites and every minority again have their own or allied forces.

now throw the interests of countries (USA, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iran) and of islamic groups like lebanese hezbollah,palestenian hamas in the pot and you get a really strange brew.


besides that one thing is for sure though:

This is a great opportunity to get US military in action, spread the footage worldwide on the media and let john doe forget what's going on with snowden affair for some time.

O'bomber vs. al-Assad:

Yep, just as in Iraq, a country where women went uncovered and in skirts to the university, and that was just bombed back to the stone age.

And what about the destruction of the National Library, one of the most valuable in the world, which was the memory (now lost forever) of a 5,000 years old civilization... Wikipedia says those crazy Saddam nutjobs burnt it to destroy their secret archives which they hided between the clay tables written thousands of years ago in ancient cuneiform... Feels great that now civilization arrived to Iraq, Saddam is no longer a deadly threat to us, the good guys, and good Iraqui will finally be able to illustrate themselves and live in peace... God bless!

That's right, for years they fight all those fundamentalists and than help them to overtake the most moderate Muslim they ever had there. Because we all know, the people there will be much better of with these rebels. Seems a bunch of really rational and loving people ready to build a free democratic country. These womens that enjoy free educations thanks to Assad will be so happy they finally can stay at home now.

I'm sure there is no hidden agenda, it is for the good of the people there.

We have been told a fairy tale about a phantomatic organization called Al Qaeda, which leader hid in caves in Afghanistan, which supposedly organized 9/11 training their men with Microsoft Flight Simulator. Most of people in West bought that story, and pretty much everybody in high positions agreed Al Qaeda is evil and must be destroyed.

Making a long story short: the US military attacks Al Qaeda in Yemen and Pakistan, while gives them funds in Syria in the fight against Al Assad. Now it seems the US will strike Syria to help Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic fundamentalists against the Syrian secular regime, where religious freedom is guaranteed and any kind of political form of islamism is forbidden.

Seriously guys, WTF?

Anyhow, my call is the US will not have the balls to do a "real" war, sending occupying forces to the territory. Its pretty obvious to me they will just throw some tomahawks to show off. They know too well Hezbollah is very strong in Syria, they are heavily armed with Russian and Chinese weapons financed by Iran. This could be a new Vietnam (or Iraq), and they know it - they cannot afford that ATM.