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Topic: So Apple is letting Bitcoin back in. (Read 4779 times)

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August 14, 2014, 07:03:14 PM
#96
I personally didn't upgrade to the 5s and instead went with a galaxy.

Surprising that a company that views themselves progressive like apple would shut bitcoin out. I figured they would be the 1st to adopt it.

Maybe I will be back for 6s now that more and more apps are coming out for apple
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August 14, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
#95
As long as IOS will be more secure then Android and Windows, Apple will have any interest in encouraging people to use cryptos: it will mean people will be forced to buy apple just to sleep sweet dreams.

Yes they are more secure...but mostly because of their product not being sold as much.  Yes apple OS is built on a unix background so its slightly better.  The fact of the matter is though, people don't hack it as much because there isn't enough of them out there to be a big hit
iPhone users are generally wealthier then android users and the iPhone is a better selling phone then any one model of android based phones. The reason why more people use android then iOS is because so many manufacturers make android based phones.

I think that overall iPhones are much more secure then android phones, however you need to trust any dev of any app that you install that will have any amount of your bitcoin on that phone.

Iphone is just way over price compare to other phones if you factor in the monthly service fee that locked you in for 2 years.
legendary
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August 14, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
#94
As long as IOS will be more secure then Android and Windows, Apple will have any interest in encouraging people to use cryptos: it will mean people will be forced to buy apple just to sleep sweet dreams.

Yes they are more secure...but mostly because of their product not being sold as much.  Yes apple OS is built on a unix background so its slightly better.  The fact of the matter is though, people don't hack it as much because there isn't enough of them out there to be a big hit
iPhone users are generally wealthier then android users and the iPhone is a better selling phone then any one model of android based phones. The reason why more people use android then iOS is because so many manufacturers make android based phones.

I think that overall iPhones are much more secure then android phones, however you need to trust any dev of any app that you install that will have any amount of your bitcoin on that phone.
newbie
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August 13, 2014, 10:36:18 AM
#93
It is a good news for Apple users like me. I am using Iphone 4S. Can anyone provide me the direct link of App store?
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August 13, 2014, 10:33:43 AM
#92
As long as IOS will be more secure then Android and Windows, Apple will have any interest in encouraging people to use cryptos: it will mean people will be forced to buy apple just to sleep sweet dreams.

Yes they are more secure...but mostly because of their product not being sold as much.  Yes apple OS is built on a unix background so its slightly better.  The fact of the matter is though, people don't hack it as much because there isn't enough of them out there to be a big hit
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August 13, 2014, 01:40:46 AM
#91
The damage has alreay been done to Apple for not having bitcoin apps long ago, and for this reason among other i will never use Apple.
I think what they are doing now will matter more then what they have done in the past. If they allow BTC wallets now then people will be able to buy, use and spend bitcoin that have an iPhone.
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August 13, 2014, 01:38:05 AM
#90
Quote from: AliceWonder
Quote from: leex1528 on 30 July 2014, 02:39:31

Apple is sort of a joke as a company. 


A joke with an incredible amount of influence and an incredible amount of assets...
:yesnod:

legendary
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August 12, 2014, 11:22:34 PM
#89
The damage has alreay been done to Apple for not having bitcoin apps long ago, and for this reason among other i will never use Apple.
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August 12, 2014, 11:17:36 PM
#88
I've already left apple for this sole reason. I have now realised how much better android is, although it is extremely insecure, as one bad apk downloaded means all your wallet passwords would be stolen and used. Thats why I don't keep any more than 0.01 on my phone wallet at any time. I use xapo.com's vault for long-term storage.
It sounds a lot like you are making the argument to stay with apple. If android phones are insecure then why use them? Your BTC is only one of many things that could get stolen if an attacker were to gain access to your phone (sensitive information on your phone like text messages, banking information, pictures, your geo-location, potentially your identity).
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August 12, 2014, 10:20:58 PM
#87
Apple caved in due to crypto trend. If they don't, they will increase the speed of losing smart phone market.
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August 12, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
#86
Good to hear it , using the old blockchain app for now.  Grin

I heard of Bither and another wallet app, bitwallet.


The new blockchain.info app for the iPhone is more secure. It forces you to setup a pin that you must enter anytime you open the app. So if someone were to steal your phone they will not be able to steal your BTC.

You must be kidding. Bither is far more secure. You can take a look at this thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bither-simplesecure-bitcoin-walletdesktop-148-606238
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August 12, 2014, 09:41:48 PM
#85
Imagine the bank they could have made if they set it to a .99 price, hehe. If 100K users bought it...
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August 12, 2014, 09:04:30 PM
#84
Yes, I found several bitcoin wallet app in apple store, like Blockchain,Coinpocket,Bither. It's good for bitcoin.
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August 11, 2014, 09:26:28 AM
#83
I've already left apple for this sole reason. I have now realised how much better android is, although it is extremely insecure, as one bad apk downloaded means all your wallet passwords would be stolen and used. Thats why I don't keep any more than 0.01 on my phone wallet at any time. I use xapo.com's vault for long-term storage.

Haahhaa, so you're telling me that Android isn't sandboxing the access for 3rd party apps to other 3rd party apps? Wow, what a security flaw right there! I just thought Android as ugly as the night, but that takes the story to a whole new level...
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August 11, 2014, 05:27:53 AM
#82
It's good to know they are back before been totally flawed by others.
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August 11, 2014, 02:45:56 AM
#81
Well, that's a good choice that Apple has done to re-add it. Good on ya, Apple.
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August 11, 2014, 12:31:05 AM
#80
I've already left apple for this sole reason. I have now realised how much better android is, although it is extremely insecure, as one bad apk downloaded means all your wallet passwords would be stolen and used. Thats why I don't keep any more than 0.01 on my phone wallet at any time. I use xapo.com's vault for long-term storage.
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August 11, 2014, 12:24:36 AM
#79
Be warned, the security of this app is not great. It stores your Blockchain.info password and your app's PIN in plaintext on your phone, retrievable over USB. It also stores an encrypted copy of your Bitcoin wallet right next to the plaintext password (which can be used to decrypt the wallet). I haven't checked, but I imagine these files might be included in iTunes backups of the device too.

The sandbox keeps it safe from other apps, but you are 100% insecure on a jailbroken device.

They did add a new PIN lock to the app, but again this is not used to encrypt your private key and is only a UI lock.

That does sound pretty poor. However, if the app stores its data in /Documents and you have a lock on your phone (preferably complex passphrase / touch ID) then the app's data should be encrypted on your device.

Didn't the recent "scandal" about those usb "backdoor" services show that this isn't good enough; you need to set those explicit NSFileProtectionComplete attributes?

The usb "backdoor" applies only to computers you have specifically authorized by unlocking the phone and tapping "trust this computer." If you can unlock the phone, you could just transfer yourself the contents of the bitcoin wallet anyway.
You would still have some amount of time to access your blockchain wallet and transfer it to another, safe BTC address while someone who has stolen your phone tries to figure out the code to unlock your phone and get your phone to "trust" their computer.
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August 10, 2014, 05:53:33 AM
#78
It is a slight joke with exaggeration.
jr. member
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August 10, 2014, 04:54:59 AM
#77
Perhaps this time they didn't blatantly violate Apple's rules by including major functionality that was completely hidden until enabled on the server, and not turning that on until after review. Apple wants to review the app users are going to see.
Previous discussion from back when that happened: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7194085

That may be the case, but did any of the banned Bitcoin apps actually try to do IAP? How would Bitcoin IAP work, given the lack of inter-app communication in iOS?

It's probably more a case of IAP being the only sanctioned way to pay for digital services inside apps, with bitcoin transactions being a way to bypass the entire 30% cut that Apple takes for IAPs.

No more than credit cards, PayPal, etc. are. Both methods would result in your app being rejected, so Apple has nothing to fear there.
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