so are coins 2.0 / 3.0 going to eat btc???

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Quote from: okiefromokc on December 29, 2013, 12:34:30 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

emunie stakeholders are selling their coins for a fixed price before public launch. Either they sincerely don't believe in the success of their own code or they deliberately wish to make a quick buck before there even is a product. Roll Eyes

I am not sure where you got your information at, but I agree with eid, there are no stakeholders of eMu. Further there are NO eMu available to sell, unlike Nxt that launch a public beta with only a very small number of Nxtcoin holders of 1 billion coins. So do to the lack of a distribution of the Nxt coins and the hoarding of most of the original holders the value of Nxt has skyrocketed. Nxt is a classic pump and dump scenario being set up by the original Nxt holders.

Just my opinion.

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Quote from: hypostatization on December 28, 2013, 01:54:09 AM

Ripple supports instant payment and exchange of any currency.

It is open source: https://github.com/ripple

A healthy growing company of 35 employees sits behind it. It is backed by Google Ventures.

Marack Squires, a co-founder of nodejitsu, just joined the team.

It is centralized and traceable.
also google owns the world, I dont want it to have anything to do with my finances

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Quote from: Arros on December 27, 2013, 10:55:30 PM

Those new systems aren't properly released yet. No one knows how well they'll hold up against serious attempts to hack or disrupt them. Besides, Nxt is apparently very raw right now and emunie mechanisms haven't been explained in detail.

Premature to talk about eating btc.

Agreed.
Also premature to call them scams or ponzi schemes. I dont like the misinformation forming before the actual information is released to the public.
There are a few threads already detailing benefits of emunie. just do a search on here

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emunie stakeholders are selling their coins for a fixed price before public launch. Either they sincerely don't believe in the success of their own code or they deliberately wish to make a quick buck before there even is a product. Roll Eyes

I am not sure where you got your information at, but I agree with eid, there are no stakeholders of eMu. Further there are NO eMu available to sell, unlike Nxt that launch a public beta with only a very small number of Nxtcoin holders of 1 billion coins. So do to the lack of a distribution of the Nxt coins and the hoarding of most of the original holders the value of Nxt has skyrocketed. Nxt is a classic pump and dump scenario being set up by the original Nxt holders.

Just my opinion.

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emunie stakeholders are selling their coins for a fixed price before public launch. Either they sincerely don't believe in the success of their own code or they deliberately wish to make a quick buck before there even is a product. Roll Eyes

Your comments show a complete lack of understanding of the subject. If you'd like to correct this, the information is freely available for anyone to read. This would be a good place to start:

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/992-important-information-regarding-public-pre-launch-sale/

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Ripple supports instant payment and exchange of any currency.

It is open source: https://github.com/ripple

A healthy growing company of 35 employees sits behind it. It is backed by Google Ventures.

Marack Squires, a co-founder of nodejitsu, just joined the team.

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Those new systems aren't properly released yet. No one knows how well they'll hold up against serious attempts to hack or disrupt them. Besides, Nxt is apparently very raw right now and emunie mechanisms haven't been explained in detail.

Premature to talk about eating btc.

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Quote from: flasheart on December 27, 2013, 01:56:13 PM

I'm thinking Earthcoin as a 3rd generation coin. Seen some tests done, 1-5sec transaction speeds all around the world and a very active launch / dev team. The coin has enough broad market appeal and with 13.5Bil coins eventually could one day settle into a $10 - $100 a coin spot and displace fiat.

just another opinion.

Earthcoin is a litecoin clone with changed parameters and nice marketing. I don't think that doesn't make it 3rd generation. There are many coins like that. I'm not saying it's bad. I think it's a respectable PoW scrypt coin but not 3rd generation.

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And throughout all this nobody has bothered to explain what these new coins do better than bitcoin, or that bitcoin can't do. THAT is why we dismiss it.

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Quote from: Iter on December 27, 2013, 05:35:53 PM

Emunie looks interesting but they really need to change the name...

I personally wouldn't mind either.

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Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 27, 2013, 05:55:41 PM

Quote from: Iter on December 27, 2013, 05:35:53 PM

Emunie looks interesting but they really need to change the name...

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I agree with that

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Quote from: Iter on December 27, 2013, 05:35:53 PM

Emunie looks interesting but they really need to change the name...

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Emunie looks interesting but they really need to change the name...

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Quote from: wingspan on December 27, 2013, 02:10:51 PM

Quote from: bittick on December 27, 2013, 01:22:27 PM

oh god, your ignorance ...you arrogant morons.

I abhor personal attacks - there is no call for it here ... and wish to dissociate myself from bittick. Please don't think all eMunie enthusiasts are alike.

I'm sorry, I must have offended your aura.
When were you ever associated with me?

Please browse the forum a little more and see for yourself what the situation is.

Anyone who yells 'IT'S CRAP! MY COIN IS BEST! PREMINEEEE!!!!' without even giving it a second look - are, in my honest opinion, arrogant morons.
and, btw, I wasn't talking about emunie, so don't feel offended being part of it.

When people will be making informed comments about new things that are not even released, then I will ease down. At the moment I had enough of their crap flinging.

AND BTW, I wasnt attacking anyone personally. It was a general monorization.

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Quote from: HairyMaclairy on December 27, 2013, 02:31:09 PM

Is there an Emunie white paper?

No "white paper", though his details here start describing it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330744.0;topicseen with documentation coming right after he finishes the core coding mid January time frame...while final beta testing occurs..and public pre-sale (month long starting early January) occurs.

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Quote from: dogeball on December 27, 2013, 11:36:17 AM

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Quote from: jubalix on December 27, 2013, 12:32:09 AM

well no, the owner is first to market with a complete pos system that is not on code base of btc

Yep and that's why it will be hacked in 2014. Not an exchange or wallet service, the coin itself. Observe.

Would you be able to go into more detail as in how this would be possible?

Yeah, somebody would devise an attack against this network which would allow unauthorized funds transfers of some sort. I don't have a code for that and would not bother to research it, but trust me, with this market valuation it's a ticking timebomb. Current version barely works at all as it is, does not resemble anything like bitcoin alpha, where the protocol was pretty solid from the start, features added as needed. This approach - lump many badly thought-through features together without ensuring the protocol works at all - is a perfect recipe for disaster.

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Quote from: wingspan on December 27, 2013, 02:10:51 PM

Quote from: bittick on December 27, 2013, 01:22:27 PM

oh god, your ignorance ...you arrogant morons.

I abhor personal attacks - there is no call for it here ... and wish to dissociate myself from bittick. Please don't think all eMunie enthusiasts are alike.

Is there an Emunie white paper?

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Quote from: bittick on December 27, 2013, 01:22:27 PM

oh god, your ignorance ...you arrogant morons.

I abhor personal attacks - there is no call for it here ... and wish to dissociate myself from bittick. Please don't think all eMunie enthusiasts are alike.

--edit-- I changed my mind from yesterday's comment above - I don't like personal attacks, but bittick is a better person than I first thought.

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