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I have been to a local carnival that provides different kinds of games like what you included, dice game, roulette, prediction games, etc.  If I ever come across the ball where it lands and sees the pattern you suggested, I think I would bet a lot more than I would've because you could take advantage of it at the right time. IT's not something you could do in land-based casinos alike.

Maybe there could be something similar to that in an online casino though?
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Good for you, mine, ain't lucky in local carnival near in our house, a walking distance. Like in online casino, most of the time I ended up lossing. But in local carnival, I only lost few like last night just $2. The highest lost I got was $6 if i'm not mistaken unlike in online I experienced to lost thousand of bucks. Let's say even the table isn't that balance the ring move a bit when they throw the ball because of the impact plus wind sometimes.
You lost that much through online game then you're not doing something right and you'll continue to loose until you do the exact thing which the OP which was said the house always does i.e notice, observe the game you might be easily good at, know the depth of the game rules/regulations and know the time stop playing.

the guy said that he lost his money on local gambling ( carnival/amusemnet )  he didnt loose it in online gambling that night  . he loose because he notice something . he thinks that he is being cheated by the gambling operators because their gaming tools are faulty but even if its a brand new gambling machines , the chance of loosing is still verry high because gambling  ( all kinds of them ) are mainly based on luck  not skills or strategy  .
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Good for you, mine, ain't lucky in local carnival near in our house, a walking distance. Like in online casino, most of the time I ended up lossing. But in local carnival, I only lost few like last night just $2. The highest lost I got was $6 if i'm not mistaken unlike in online I experienced to lost thousand of bucks. Let's say even the table isn't that balance the ring move a bit when they throw the ball because of the impact plus wind sometimes.
You lost that much through online game then you're not doing something right and you'll continue to loose until you do the exact thing which the OP which was said the house always does i.e notice, observe the game you might be easily good at, know the depth of the game rules/regulations and know the time stop playing.
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The houses always wins and that is why the owners of casinos, offline or online are rich persons while the gamblers in the majority of cases are poor to intermediate wealthy people.

That game you are playing if really is the game in the picture , it has a lot of possibilities to cheat on you.
But we are not going to earn much from carnival games and the chances of winning even is small so it is like a business to the people but it will change when it comes to casino or online gambling where no cheating involves but still the owner makes money.
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It is not applicable to online game but one can win offline winning the game?  I also do think that the house always win in most of the online and offline gambling and there is no strategies that do win!

It has to be this way only as house will always have the edge else what is the use of they running the business where they keep on making losses if customers have the edge. They are their to runt he business and make profits and not do charity. It is upto us to understand and play wisely.

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It is not applicable to online game but one can win offline winning the game?  I also do think that the house always win in most of the online and offline gambling and there is no strategies that do win!
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The houses always wins and that is why the owners of casinos, offline or online are rich persons while the gamblers in the majority of cases are poor to intermediate wealthy people.

That game you are playing if really is the game in the picture , it has a lot of possibilities to cheat on you.
It can be easily to cheat if they'll be fast in doing it. But of being in gambling for many years, it probably won't be happen cause we know already how people do that and if that case, they'll be losing their reputation and nobody would gamble with them.
But I'll doubt if they can afford to cheat the gamblers especially for big casinos, they should play fair to us.
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The houses always wins and that is why the owners of casinos, offline or online are rich persons while the gamblers in the majority of cases are poor to intermediate wealthy people.

That game you are playing if really is the game in the picture , it has a lot of possibilities to cheat on you.
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Being observant and remembering past experience to avoid one particular incident a kind of things we can apply in gambling but the modern gambling environments are highly ultra faster one which will not allow you to think over anything so that they can keep you always in excited level so that you can gamble and lose and then move away.
Keeping you excited may lead into getting addiction too. Yes, it is very dangerous one other than how houses are enforcing you not to able to apply your "experiences". I do see widely people are emphasizing that experience is not a key in gambling but the actual truth is, it is still a key but you cannot use it to unlock anything out of aggressiveness and rushing. I agree being observant will help in gambling but for that we must need enough time.

Let me think about your perspective's online application : if you are good in observing then you may get chances to guess the seeds and then you may bet accordingly. It is not easier as it sounds but I heard someone guessed (probably might have hacked) some house's seed generation sequences and made 2000+ bitcoins.
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It's a very good experience that you got, maybe you saw an entry window that you took advantage of, but the Probably Fair algorithm learns, I'm sure if you try again it's very likely that you will not succeed, maybe, in this case accompanied luck.

I'm really happy with your triumph, it's very good that you won, but since you're that observant, keep looking for other strategies, and do not just stick with it, it can become a double-edged sword.
Well we all know being a gamblers that Luck is always indeed for us to win mate

I guess OP just become much lucky than time so he got the rhythm of the betting but in totality still luck took over the whole game

And you're right that if he tried it again its more on losing is what he'll get
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Good for you, mine, ain't lucky in local carnival near in our house, a walking distance. Like in online casino, most of the time I ended up lossing. But in local carnival, I only lost few like last night just $2. The highest lost I got was $6 if i'm not mistaken unlike in online I experienced to lost thousand of bucks. Let's say even the table isn't that balance the ring move a bit when they throw the ball because of the impact plus wind sometimes.
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So i recently posted a thread here where houses always win in every game. Here's the link.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48816442

After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.


2. Color games with dice. So usually, this game consists of three dices , 6 color each (dice have 6 sides). The odds are less because it has more chances of winning. Ex. The dice turns yellow, blue and red, then all the bets will be x1 in that colors.The colors other than that is lost. If the 3 dices turns blue for example then all 5 colors are lost then blue is x3 and so on. If you will notice, the house always shuffle the dices before it roles and put those not winning color in place so that it will have less winners. Look at the position of the dices when it puts on the rolers, then usually, the color below or the color you did not see wins. I usually bet after the dices are arranged so that i can see its position.


I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley

Well, good observation friend and it seems like it js not a fair game enough since you have notice that trick on the local carnival of yours. Even we might think that those local carnival games do always have the advantage to earn large profit from their players, it seems like cheating is not a great thing to be executed since players are sincerely playing tough just to win their price. But good thing you have noticed that matter and win what you must deserve if they did not take advantage of the game. That is why I trust on the online casino I am currently into because they have fair games that I could play plus the bonus they serve as a welcome reward for doing my first deposit.

It seems that carnivals have their own strategies to good time players which I do not like because they are taking advantage of the people's desire to win the game but good thing that somebody have seen the way to win even there is a hindrance of this advantage strategy that the carnivals use to play the people. I wanted to try how fair those games in that online casino you were talking about.
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It's a very good experience that you got, maybe you saw an entry window that you took advantage of, but the Probably Fair algorithm learns, I'm sure if you try again it's very likely that you will not succeed, maybe, in this case accompanied luck.

I'm really happy with your triumph, it's very good that you won, but since you're that observant, keep looking for other strategies, and do not just stick with it, it can become a double-edged sword.
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So i recently posted a thread here where houses always win in every game. Here's the link.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48816442

After that, i visited again our local carnival last night and i noticed something. If you are observant enough you can cheat the game. Warning: Its not applicable to online games.

So heres what i noticed.
1. The game is what i told last time where there is this ball and wherever the color that ball lands, its the winning color and the price would be quadrouple your bet. So i noticed that theres a certain color that almost win. The color red. Its not just coincidence because last time i checked, it happened again. The color holes are somehow tilted and its not 0 degrees on level and the color red is what it will gonna hit on that position.


2. Color games with dice. So usually, this game consists of three dices , 6 color each (dice have 6 sides). The odds are less because it has more chances of winning. Ex. The dice turns yellow, blue and red, then all the bets will be x1 in that colors.The colors other than that is lost. If the 3 dices turns blue for example then all 5 colors are lost then blue is x3 and so on. If you will notice, the house always shuffle the dices before it roles and put those not winning color in place so that it will have less winners. Look at the position of the dices when it puts on the rolers, then usually, the color below or the color you did not see wins. I usually bet after the dices are arranged so that i can see its position.


I take home triple my gambling capital this time. If you are observant enough, you can somehow cheat. This is not 100% sure but it helps a lot on deciding a bet.

Happy Gambling Smiley

Well, good observation friend and it seems like it js not a fair game enough since you have notice that trick on the local carnival of yours. Even we might think that those local carnival games do always have the advantage to earn large profit from their players, it seems like cheating is not a great thing to be executed since players are sincerely playing tough just to win their price. But good thing you have noticed that matter and win what you must deserve if they did not take advantage of the game. That is why I trust on the online casino I am currently into because they have fair games that I could play plus the bonus they serve as a welcome reward for doing my first deposit.
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Cheating is a dirty bad ideas may cause it a bad karma, skills is the best way to enjoy the games not using cheating but people has have own strategy how get huge profits by using wrong ideas, I suggest be careful for your dirty ways it's possible they cause for your risk.
It's not a real cheat though since it just happen that the usual result of the dice is color red so there are tendency that every gambler will bet on that color. If you are in a local casinos like this, you must be observant since not all players are real most of them are member of the team who play just to attract people. Nevertheless, if you make profit its good for you just keep on thinking for the positive things.
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OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation.

In some games trying to observe and influence the odds would be considered a type of cheating.   I'm thinking of card counting where they'll put you out of the casino possibly if you are aware of too much.    I always thought that wasnt fair on what could be considered a skill but if a gambler can turn the odds in their own favour you can bet this situation doesnt ever last that long

Unless you don't have any cheating device in your body to count cards then it should not be considered as cheating. However, I saw videos in Youtube and I'm assuming its in the US that card counters, once spotted by the managers will have to throw them out of the casino, really not fair.

Those guys have the skills and for sure they have practice it and perfected it at some point. So I would agree that the OP is not cheating but I don't know if it will work in the long run. Just be sure to go home once you can your money like x5 or x10, no need to be greedy.
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OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation.

In some games trying to observe and influence the odds would be considered a type of cheating.   I'm thinking of card counting where they'll put you out of the casino possibly if you are aware of too much.    I always thought that wasnt fair on what could be considered a skill but if a gambler can turn the odds in their own favour you can bet this situation doesnt ever last that long
Hmm what you brought up is interesting and it lead me to search for an answer if card counting is indeed illegal and I found this article or a write up about card counting

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/local/wp/2014/10/28/card-counting-cheating-or-civil-right/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ffc5975c2394

And I guess its correct that using a gadget or equipment to count would be considered illegal since you have the advantage of taking notes of whats being drawn out and how many is already drawn out, unlike counting in your capacity which is not really 100% accurate since you are not using anything to take notes.
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OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation.

In some games trying to observe and influence the odds would be considered a type of cheating.   I'm thinking of card counting where they'll put you out of the casino possibly if you are aware of too much.    I always thought that wasnt fair on what could be considered a skill but if a gambler can turn the odds in their own favour you can bet this situation doesnt ever last that long
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The thing is, most of these operations will easily spot people that picked up on their strategy and they will politely Roll Eyes ask them not continue gambling there. When I was young, I participated in a game at a local market, where you had to climb a tall pole that was greased and then retrieve a tag at the top to win a prize.

I figured out how to "cheat" and I won several of the prizes, until they asked me to stop participating in the game.   Roll Eyes

Operations like this, will find news ways to change the odds in their favour, when they realize that people figured out how they were "cheating" the game.  Tongue

 
And that is the one thing that we have to put in our mind the "attention" that we created can make them notice us too quickly. But of course, the one that you are playing is noticeable mostly if you successively wins in a row. It would be unfair to everyone that who join in the game and can make them protest to stop us from playing that game. The house really knows who is the greedy one and that makes them take appropriate action.
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Cheating is a dirty bad ideas may cause it a bad karma, skills is the best way to enjoy the games not using cheating but people has have own strategy how get huge profits by using wrong ideas, I suggest be careful for your dirty ways it's possible they cause for your risk.
OP is not cheating because he just followed something that he think is a trend based on his observation. The dice can't be rigged as well since its just made of an ordinary wood, the only thing the operator of that dice can do is how they position dice before they roll, what color is on top.
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