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Topic: So long and thanks for all the fish (Read 2802 times)

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June 10, 2013, 12:38:45 PM
#26
Sorry had to bring this one back...

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June 10, 2013, 11:44:45 AM
#25
I don't know why people are complaining about the OP. The more people leave, the more profit for everyone else.
legendary
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June 10, 2013, 03:19:44 AM
#24
No I don't want to be a millionaire, I just want a return (or at least breakeven) on my investment in kit and electricity and that is now not going to happen now, ever, if I use GPU's or ASIC's since GPU's are now uneconomical and almost all the world's ASIC's are owned and operated by a bunch of sharks. When the sharks release ASIC's and sell them to the public, difficulty will have already made them worth less than their purchase price. That's not what I would have wanted for Bitcoin given the enormous potential promise and a few months of the glorious new economy that we've experienced.

Personally I think Bitcoin is doomed because of the ASIC situation and any alternative cryptocurrency (like LTC) is going to be a hard sell to the public because of the fragmentation of the digital economy that it involves, e.g. I own 100 BTC, how do I convert this to LTC - you can't your 100 BTC is now worthless, care to invest in LTC ?

The only hope is to expand BTC to allow scrypt, in addition to SHA256, as a proof of work algorithm. This would allow those with ASIC's to continue and benefit from low power devices but crucially removes the stranglehold that ASIC companies will soon have over Bitcoin since any miner can choose to use scrypt and that enables the current GPU's to continue and be competitive with ASIC's albeit with a higher power cost.





 

To get a return,you have to make an investment  Roll Eyes You work in a bank & cannot do the math?? I'll help you a little:

ASIC-$300 (Avalon DIY) 5GH each x 4 boards(devices)=20GH-cost $1200 (approx)

Electrical consumption-32 watts per board x4=128 watts (not sure of your power rates,you can deduct this yourself)

AT current difficulty,BTC @ $107.99:

                Coins     Dollars

per Day     ฿0.64    $69.61

per Week   ฿4.51    $487.26

per Month  ฿19.59  $2,116.09



At network hashrate of 500TH,BTC @ $107.99:

               Coins   Dollars

per Day    ฿0.15  $16.54

per Week  ฿1.07  $115.75

per Month ฿4.65  $502.69

Those 4 ASIC boards should pay for themselves in about 3-4 weeks  (At the moment,a little longer as diff goes up)....................

So,no Return On Investment??

Did not read the other 2 paragraphs you babbled on..............................

Difficulty guesstamates:

19707600=150TH (network total)

26276800=200TH

39415200=300TH

52553600=400TH

65692000=500TH

78830400=600TH

98538000=750TH

http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

Play with the price per BTC & difficulty & how much hashrate you may get with what you can afford  Wink
staff
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June 10, 2013, 12:06:50 AM
#23
Bitcoin is not useless, I have paid bills, ordered food, paid for online subscriptions.
legendary
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June 10, 2013, 12:00:17 AM
#22
People is going to leave, but don't worry they will come in the next bubble.
Cheap bitcoins before we go in the radar again Tongue
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June 09, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
#21
I don't quite understand. You find mining doesn't work for you so you quit the Bitcoin scene altogether?
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
June 09, 2013, 07:43:03 AM
#20
No I don't want to be a millionaire, I just want a return (or at least breakeven) on my investment in kit and electricity and that is now not going to happen now, ever, if I use GPU's or ASIC's since GPU's are now uneconomical and almost all the world's ASIC's are owned and operated by a bunch of sharks. When the sharks release ASIC's and sell them to the public, difficulty will have already made them worth less than their purchase price. That's not what I would have wanted for Bitcoin given the enormous potential promise and a few months of the glorious new economy that we've experienced.

Personally I think Bitcoin is doomed because of the ASIC situation and any alternative cryptocurrency (like LTC) is going to be a hard sell to the public because of the fragmentation of the digital economy that it involves, e.g. I own 100 BTC, how do I convert this to LTC - you can't your 100 BTC is now worthless, care to invest in LTC ?

The only hope is to expand BTC to allow scrypt, in addition to SHA256, as a proof of work algorithm. This would allow those with ASIC's to continue and benefit from low power devices but crucially removes the stranglehold that ASIC companies will soon have over Bitcoin since any miner can choose to use scrypt and that enables the current GPU's to continue and be competitive with ASIC's albeit with a higher power cost.

@azw409,
For all the chiding that you are getting in this thread, we actually need people like you on board with us, even if you are not personally invested in it. We need folks in every industry to be on board with us even if it is only in a perfunctory way.

We wish you luck, but please consider keeping the door open.
legendary
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June 09, 2013, 07:36:32 AM
#19
Even without ASICs over time GPU mining becomes less and less profitable when only those with the lowest electricity costs can afford to mine and make profit because with price increases the difficulty will also increase.
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June 09, 2013, 07:33:06 AM
#18
No I don't want to be a millionaire, I just want a return (or at least breakeven) on my investment in kit and electricity and that is now not going to happen now, ever, if I use GPU's or ASIC's since GPU's are now uneconomical and almost all the world's ASIC's are owned and operated by a bunch of sharks. When the sharks release ASIC's and sell them to the public, difficulty will have already made them worth less than their purchase price. That's not what I would have wanted for Bitcoin given the enormous potential promise and a few months of the glorious new economy that we've experienced.

Personally I think Bitcoin is doomed because of the ASIC situation and any alternative cryptocurrency (like LTC) is going to be a hard sell to the public because of the fragmentation of the digital economy that it involves, e.g. I own 100 BTC, how do I convert this to LTC - you can't your 100 BTC is now worthless, care to invest in LTC ?

The only hope is to expand BTC to allow scrypt, in addition to SHA256, as a proof of work algorithm. This would allow those with ASIC's to continue and benefit from low power devices but crucially removes the stranglehold that ASIC companies will soon have over Bitcoin since any miner can choose to use scrypt and that enables the current GPU's to continue and be competitive with ASIC's albeit with a higher power cost.





 
newbie
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June 09, 2013, 06:23:03 AM
#17
wow you guys are rich Smiley I have only 0,03 BTC Wink

Probably not gonna have much more any time soon unless someone donates as my plan is to mine

for the daily dose
- weedcoin, porncoin, sexcoin
to feel as the king
- rolaycoin
to feal as a hero
- flashcoin
for its anonimity
- anoncoin
to have some gold on the side
- gldcoin, goldcoin

and maybe stablecoin or realcoin to buy some necessities in the future like razors or toilet paper Smiley

EDIT: if no one believes this is actually what I have done for the past 4 days. Mining stablecoin now...
legendary
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June 09, 2013, 05:53:19 AM
#16
lol this is my story too(but i began in may), only with two differences
-i'm not quitting
-i have made only 0.6
member
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June 09, 2013, 05:45:38 AM
#15
nice title.
so what you are saying is that you don't want to be a member of the club if you can't be a millioner?
member
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June 09, 2013, 02:58:48 AM
#14
You work in a bank did you say ?

That says it all
legendary
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Think for yourself
June 08, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
#13
Jesus said to tell you to send me your BTC.

What chapter and verse was that?  Or is your real name Caesar?

chapter, verse? no my neighbors name is jesus, he is cuban Smiley

Oh, that guy.
Later Caesar
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
June 08, 2013, 11:21:03 PM
#12
Jesus said to tell you to send me your BTC.

What chapter and verse was that?  Or is your real name Caesar?

chapter, verse? no my neighbors name is jesus, he is cuban Smiley
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June 08, 2013, 11:13:48 PM
#11
There's no reason you should have stopped generating shares because of a difficulty increase. GPU mining is still plenty profitable.

What a lame post acting like it's the end of the world for Bitcoin. "The exchanges closing down" yeah right, which ones?
legendary
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Think for yourself
June 08, 2013, 11:12:58 PM
#10
Jesus said to tell you to send me your BTC.

What chapter and verse was that?  Or is your real name Caesar?
sr. member
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♫ A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw ♫
June 08, 2013, 11:04:16 PM
#9
Jesus said to tell you to send me your BTC.
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R.I.P Silk Road 1.0
June 08, 2013, 11:02:36 PM
#8
Seriously you've only been around bitcoin for about 2 1/2 months and you're already quitting? GTFO!
legendary
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Think for yourself
June 08, 2013, 10:56:29 PM
#7
Please blow up your .7 btc so ours are worth more.  Thanks.

Nah, keep them until their worth a Gazillion Dollars and then give them to Obama or Hilary.
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