Topic: So many "Where to invest BTC threads" and so few real investment options. WHY? - page 2. (Read 3347 times)

I think the problem is there is not a legit solution, because I cannot think of an instance in which a business did not benefit from having an abundance of new capital that comes from their investors and using that capital to grow their business.

It is true that the most of the bitcoin community think that there is no investmments because the internet is filled with scams and people trying to make free money, so I do defintly agree with you on making some poices and rules so that we can have more trust in the more true invesments company because right now they are having some trust problems.

I think there should be more than one investments because even genuine investments might not prove successful for any reason so to bypass such risk I think it's important to diversify the risk among various small investments instead of single huge investment. A deep research is must especially when there are financial matters.

We have to be selective in choosing investments, because an awful lot of investment ponzi scheme that uses the system. I recommend to investment to where we really know and has a good reputation. in this forum as well as many investment options available.

People must be preparing for the their future or just want to earn more money so they are trying to know where to invest besides bitcoin. We all know holding bitcoin itself can be an investment. 

The rest of us suggested gambling sites and of course it can be a perfect one but not safe still like the rest of investment there are risk. The only real investment i can suggest though is that invest to real altcoin that grow.

Crypto community is not weak. But the real thing is that big investors an those who are earning huge in the bitcoin industry doesnt give away their secrets like posting it in this forum, they are just quiet and busy earning more money via bitcoins. For me cryptocurrency is the best deal, with only a few cents worth of bitcoin and with long term trading for about 1 to 2 months it become a hundred box without even constantly checking the trading site. Profit is here in cryptocurrency but real investment is not posted in this thread.

Almost all of them are scambags they promise you everything but end up offering you nothing so I understand his precautionary measure to put it up for deliberations before taking a step. Investing in those websites have left many ripped off in the past and I've read countless threads about them in this forum so I will advice that you get into the nitty gritty about the potential of investment options first before you make a step.

You mean where they gamble with their bitcoins!!
There's nothing wrnong with that by the way. But how many of those ICOs are just spure scams, p&d which favour the inner circle of issuers, devs and their early backers who often are already rich!
The majority of these ICO participants is losing it's money regularly!!
Just have a look at the charts of these altcoins. Pump and dump, mostly triggered by spreaded rumors or some FUD news without considering the technology it's features, and then they disappear or become irrelevant extremely fast.
Only a handful of coins may have some potential for future existence right now.A handful of more than a thousand!
So good luck with your "investing" as you call it here! I would call it short term high risk speculating, riding the wave before it's going down.

What kind of business could be expected to yield reasonable ROI in bitcoin?
The main problem is the highly volatile exchange rate. Typical "real economy" businesses need your investment to buy manufacturing equipment and raw goods, which are both typically paid for and evaluated in fiat currencies. They produce goods or services which are also either sold for fiat money, or at least there is sufficient market pressure to adjust the bitcoin price so that its value in $ or € stays more or less constant.
For example, if you were looking for server hosting, the companies offering bitcoin as a payment option can't really make their prices much higher than comparable companies who take fiat money. So when the exchange rate goes up by 10 percent within a month, they would need to reduce their hosting fees by 10 percent to stay competitive.
Unless the business model has very moderate capital investment requirements and very limited costs for raw goods, it's hard to make it an attractive investment.
Businesses that could work are mostly using just digital infrastructure and consume and produce digital goods, for example exchanges, mining operations, gambling sites. Incidentally, those kinds of businesses have actually been relatively successful in the bitcoin economy. However, even those businesses have fixed costs (server rental and/or energy, employee wages) so they need real growth to generate stable profits.

If you look at a traditional share model where shares are freely traded, you need to consider that shares are typically evaluated based on two factors: Value of the actual assets belonging to the business, and expected future dividends. If the value of the assets is very low, the value of your share will almost exclusively depend on the expected future dividends, and this can fluctuate significantly, which hinders easy trading.

Onkel Paul

I am not a fan of ICOs  either, but I have to say that in case of the most popular and hyped ICOs there is high chance of gaining profits.
It is high risk high reward kind of thing. All you have to do is pick ICO very carefully, invest only big projects backed by well known developers.
ICONOMI was good project to invest and now I think Qtum has the chance to be the biggest project on 2017, at least so far.

Yes, this is solid. If you know what to do, alts can still generate a nice profits. If you do not know what to do, lots of guides about this around, especially on Youtube.

going down the ICO path is a very bad decision if you ask me, it has high risk and even if you make it the reward is not worth it.

the only thing that I have seen to be a good investment all these years have been trading. whether it is trading bitcoin (short or long) or it is trading altcoins short term, it has been a good way to make some profit based on your experience in this market.

the altcoin mining that Amph suggests is also a good option and I have been thinking about it myself but I am always afraid of the electric bill that I am going to get based on the calculations that I have made.

i would only invest in mining at present, it has the best compromise between risk and reward, you keep your money investment(80% of it atcually) and you earn daily

i'm not talking about cloud, you need to buy your own rig and mine altcoin, not bitcoin, you can also buy directly some new coin, but it's far more risk unless you are a part of a group of whale that pump those scamcoin...

95% of those re total and utter junk. An evolution of crowdfunding options with shiny website and offering nothing. I m more interested in why REAL established businesses do not go for BTC financing.
FFS, there s a guy here on the forum who sells shares of his pig farm and there was another one from Russia who offered a cut in some kind of fishing operation.

And how many of those ICO make a solid long term profit? I have heard of many scams. Sure you might get lucky and sell at the right time during an pump and dump, but i would consider this more gambling then investing.

Look up the term ICO. That's where the big time players invest with Bitcoin.

exactly. I think so. I also want to inbest, but I find it difficult to choose a trusted company. many people offer high profit, but high profit does not guarantee that it is trusted.

or probably these people and I just do not have knowledge to know the trusted investments and scam one.

I see no reason why the returns of an investment with Bitcoin or any other crypto would be higher then with fiat. The risk is potentially higher since one can expect less experience with Bitcoin investing. People will only invest money if the are promised a bigger return and there are people promising that. But since this is almost not manageable you can assume it is a scam or high risk. I fell like solid ideas with low risk just have not enough customers, since they prefer to dream big and fail, rather then invest wisely and make a profit, even if it is just a small one.

I'm totally with you. Utility is a strong foundation for the BTC economy. Speculation provides the weakest support.

well whether you an i like it or not, bitcoin is an investment and the investment side of it is the biggest. much bigger than bitcoin being a currency. and as much as i like it to change, that is how things work now.

and by the way i always see you create at least a couple of investment topics and participate in more, do you yourself have anything to share with us?