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Topic: so much for decentralisation .... (Read 1958 times)

legendary
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February 03, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
#21

I am wondering why the Bitcoin hardcore does not take any action. Is it not BTC about decentralisation, freedom, no secrets? Smiley

Try to think a little bit. Who is behind Bitstamp, Coinbase, Kraken, BTC-China, Ripple? Take a look ! Roger Ver, Micky Malka, Erik Voorhees and another 2-3 people. Yes, these people control 90% from BTC Smiley

They funded all these exchange businesses so they control them.

Who gives a fuck seriously? They don't have any authority over the protocol and that's the whole point about open source systems. So they can meet in secret all they want to fuck a donkey, I couldn't care less.
legendary
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February 03, 2015, 05:49:52 PM
#20

I am wondering why the Bitcoin hardcore does not take any action. Is it not BTC about decentralisation, freedom, no secrets? Smiley

Try to think a little bit. Who is behind Bitstamp, Coinbase, Kraken, BTC-China, Ripple? Take a look ! Roger Ver, Micky Malka, Erik Voorhees and another 2-3 people. Yes, these people control 90% from BTC Smiley

They funded all these exchange businesses so they control them.
legendary
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February 03, 2015, 03:34:04 PM
#19
member
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legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
February 03, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
#17
[sarcasm]Oh noes! Are they going to force me to install a new version of the software with rules I don't want? Are they going to make EVERYONE install the new version? Man, this is really scary.[/sarcasm]

Yes they are because your opinion is irrelevant if you don't hold more than 2% of hashpower or coins or run a popular exchange, apparently.

The users have no say whatsoever and if you are not holding that hashpower or huge bag you will have to follow, holliday. That's the direction we are going to.

hitler is wrong again  Tongue
member
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February 03, 2015, 12:53:39 PM
#16
[sarcasm]Oh noes! Are they going to force me to install a new version of the software with rules I don't want? Are they going to make EVERYONE install the new version? Man, this is really scary.[/sarcasm]

Yes they are because your opinion is irrelevant if you don't hold more than 2% of hashpower or coins or run a popular exchange, apparently.

The users have no say whatsoever and if you are not holding that hashpower or huge bag you will have to follow, holliday. That's the direction we are going to.
newbie
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Merit: 0
February 03, 2015, 12:08:51 PM
#15
it will not affect much with bitcoin
just to makes popular and more popular Cheesy
full member
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February 03, 2015, 11:08:38 AM
#14
Such sour responses in this topic, while it actually is a fitting comparison. The simple fact that all systems at some point will move towards centralisation for the sake of efficiency is something most people here will never be able to understand. Then again, quite a few people here believe that anarchist ideas will lead to some kind of blissfull society that miraculously makes things work in the absence of organisation. Decentralisation is the largest enemy of Bitcoin (ironically of course), and that is what will kill it in the end. At this point, it is even less efficient than democracy will ever be.

so what the hell are we doing here? We could aswell just make it central like facebook tokens. Your arguments do hold no value at all. In fact your comment is spam.
legendary
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In Satoshi I Trust
Q7
sr. member
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February 03, 2015, 05:52:39 AM
#12
Whatever decision made from there is not going to affect us. Eventually majority of the community has to agree for any major changes they want to adopt. Just take it that it will just be any normal exchange ideas meetup.
legendary
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Making money since I was in the womb! @emc2whale
February 03, 2015, 05:30:49 AM
#11
Should be fun... I'll be there and let you guys know how it unfolds!

 Wink
sr. member
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February 03, 2015, 05:28:13 AM
#10
Such sour responses in this topic, while it actually is a fitting comparison. The simple fact that all systems at some point will move towards centralisation for the sake of efficiency is something most people here will never be able to understand. Then again, quite a few people here believe that anarchist ideas will lead to some kind of blissfull society that miraculously makes things work in the absence of organisation. Decentralisation is the largest enemy of Bitcoin (ironically of course), and that is what will kill it in the end. At this point, it is even less efficient than democracy will ever be.
legendary
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CEO of IOHK
February 03, 2015, 05:24:14 AM
#9
Lucky I wasn't invited to the party.
member
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February 03, 2015, 01:39:29 AM
#8
Admittedly I do not know who a lot about Bruce Fenton, I know he ran for election for the Bitcoin foundation, but I noticed something that is somewhat concerning.

I've been doing some digging into this website satoshiroundtable.org for fun. The whois information for it shows:

Code:
Tech Name:Bruce Fenton
Tech Organization:AF
Tech Street: 167 Washington Street
Tech City:Norwell
Tech State/Province:Massachusetts
Tech Postal Code:02061
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6173814907
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:[email protected]

The WHOIS information for fdvt has the same address:

Code:
Tech Organization: FDVT
Tech Street: 167 Washington Street
Tech City: Norwell
Tech State/Province: MA
Tech Postal Code: 02061
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.7819824911
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext.:
Tech Email: [email protected]

Now for the weird/conspiracy bit, check out the website http://fdvt.com

Quote
FDVT was founded in 1985.  We provide solutions to help understand changes in our world.  Specifically we provide IT consulting, Internet consulting, social media consulting, security and economic advisory consulting.

Customers of FDVT include:

US Army
US Navy
US Coast Guard
US Air Force
US Postal Service
US Postal Inspector Service
FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation
IRS - Internal Revue Service
DEA - Drug Enforcement Agency
Veterans Administration
City Of New York and New York Police Department (NYPD)
Eastern Bank
TCF Bank
Bank of America

Why does this company FDVT has some connection to the Satoshi Roundtable? This is concerning.

thanks for posting.
The best people are the 'everything's normal'-people




Well then fork it and enjoy your fudcoin, let's see which one will be worth more.

tell you what: both with be worthless
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1006
February 02, 2015, 05:19:57 PM
#7
Admittedly I do not know who a lot about Bruce Fenton, I know he ran for election for the Bitcoin foundation, but I noticed something that is somewhat concerning.

I've been doing some digging into this website satoshiroundtable.org for fun. The whois information for it shows:

Code:
Tech Name:Bruce Fenton
Tech Organization:AF
Tech Street: 167 Washington Street
Tech City:Norwell
Tech State/Province:Massachusetts
Tech Postal Code:02061
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.6173814907
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:[email protected]

The WHOIS information for fdvt has the same address:

Code:
Tech Organization: FDVT
Tech Street: 167 Washington Street
Tech City: Norwell
Tech State/Province: MA
Tech Postal Code: 02061
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.7819824911
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext.:
Tech Email: [email protected]

Now for the weird/conspiracy bit, check out the website http://fdvt.com

Quote
FDVT was founded in 1985.  We provide solutions to help understand changes in our world.  Specifically we provide IT consulting, Internet consulting, social media consulting, security and economic advisory consulting.

Customers of FDVT include:

US Army
US Navy
US Coast Guard
US Air Force
US Postal Service
US Postal Inspector Service
FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation
IRS - Internal Revue Service
DEA - Drug Enforcement Agency
Veterans Administration
City Of New York and New York Police Department (NYPD)
Eastern Bank
TCF Bank
Bank of America

Why does this company FDVT has some connection to the Satoshi Roundtable? This is concerning.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
February 02, 2015, 05:07:09 PM
#6

What can they do? Print federal reserve notes? Create a central bank? Blow up the wtc and blame Iraq?

Bitcoin will remain Bitcoin no matter what they discuss in private

no Bitcoin will become Gavincoin - Bitcoin is over

Well then fork it and enjoy your fudcoin, let's see which one will be worth more.
full member
Activity: 616
Merit: 103
February 02, 2015, 05:01:42 PM
#5

What can they do? Print federal reserve notes? Create a central bank? Blow up the wtc and blame Iraq?

Bitcoin will remain Bitcoin no matter what they discuss in private

no Bitcoin will become Gavincoin - Bitcoin is over
full member
Activity: 616
Merit: 103
February 02, 2015, 05:01:04 PM
#4
What a sensationalist article. A secret meeting yet they openly posted about it on this forum and invited people to come:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcing-the-satoshi-roundtable-crypto-retreat-934599

they posted to tell us there is no more free space available. Great. What's the meeting about? Will we the press and media be allowed?
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1006
February 02, 2015, 04:57:17 PM
#3
What a sensationalist article. A secret meeting yet they openly posted about it on this forum and invited people to come:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcing-the-satoshi-roundtable-crypto-retreat-934599
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1005
February 02, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
#2

What can they do? Print federal reserve notes? Create a central bank? Blow up the wtc and blame Iraq?

Bitcoin will remain Bitcoin no matter what they discuss in private
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