Topic: So this is it big players now rob small traders - page 2. (Read 454 times)

On the other hand many traders made good money when big players talk about Bitcoin and thus Btc start pumping. You should also active to get advantage before the pumps slow down and quit at the right time. Such things brings opportunity for the traders rather than loss in my opinion.

Nothing would really happen if you keep complaining though. No one forced you to enter the market, and others sure as hell won't stoop to your level and even out the playing ground. They entered early, and hence has the right to take advantage of their experience to profit, whether it be through other experienced traders or through inexperienced ones like you. Anyone can take advantage of the market, yes,  but granted that you know HOW to take advantage of it. Not to mention that others would also try to, so whatever "hows" you actually think you know, it may actually just be a fake, and could be said to be a perfect situation of a mantis stalks a cicada, unaware of the oriole behind.

Exactly and I agree on this.

Just because they heard that crypto investment is profitable, the word profitable is the reason why they adopt cryptocurrencies as an investment. But the fact they don't understand how crypto works are and don't know when and how to enter the market. For me, if you are not a long term holder of cryptocurrencies you will always be afraid to lose, but if you are long term holder and wait until your profit was there.

It should be they are educated before you enter the crypto market.

This is always the case, my friend, the big whales eat small fish. This is now in Bitcoin with the big players entering the market. I have already said that there is a fear of becoming centralized and manipulating the market by these big players and I think this is what is happening now, They are manipulating the market.
But let's be a little optimistic, we can benefit from these big moves that they are making, I mean Bump and Dump, you can profit from that, but you have to be careful and improve risk management.

What you said will always be the thought of traders or investors that don't understand the concept of crypto currency market. No one rob you or the small players but you rob yourself for not study to understand how crypto investment works and it like the saying "an ignorant person is a dangerous person to himself and others"

Yes, it was cause it provide total liberation for the people.

Nah. It not worse but I am surprised you're making lost when this season is the time most crypto traders make a profit.

It is not that they are robbing those small traders because it is a matter of experience and knowledge, it's all just for hype. Making yourself knowledgeable and learning trading won't let you think that you were being robbed. You may also use other's expert traders' knowledge to take advantage. Some experts do trading while being life so other's may foothersem and earn money as well.

This recent dogecoin pump and dump was something I knew not to get into. If i had seen it coming sooner at around .01-.02 i would have bought in myself. But i do my research and have been watching the crypto markets for some years now. Once i saw the hype around doge and knew it was a crap coin, there was no amount of convincing that would get me to join otherwise. Its the fault of those people really believing they could get doge to $1. That would mean the entire community would have to of pumped in 127Billion dollars in total (yes i did the math), and with so many restrictions on how much you can invest in one day on crypto in one week by many sites, it was an impossible goal from the get go. Once it hit .07 all my friends were cheering, and saying i have to join in. That was when i posted my warning on all my social media comparing this to the 2017 bitcoin pump and dump. I guessed that after 1000% increase, this big guys would get out and it would start to crash. People called me crazy, but 30 minutes later it started. Now its sitting back down to less than half of that a day later.

My say from all of this, is dont be a sheep. Its a bunch of people hoping for "free money". But there is no such thing as "free", if one person gains in the market, there is always someone who loses.

So i dont feel bad for the people who lost, i think the big guys saw a great investing opportunity and took advantage of the sheep culture. And im sadly in the same age group.

Really?

I thought the small players also profit from the crypto, although their profit will not be too big as the big crypto players. I think the small players will not have a problem unless they are late to decide and not follow the market when it is move.
The crypto is free, including free to decide to buy or sell because it will not force you to follow to buy or sell. When the traders can not realize what price they must sell or buy the coin, they will not make a profit, and they will only get lost many times. You can not blame the big players because, accept or deny, the big players help the small players by moving the price to the up and down price.

It is necessary to understand that cryptocurrency is not a magic wand that brings money to people. Profits cannot come out of nowhere. You need someone to invest in a cryptocurrency so that it gains value and others can use it. Therefore, in cryptocurrency, everyone cannot make a profit at the same time. This is a very specific market. Only market knowledge and correct and timely action in relation to cryptocurrency can provide good profits. Others will be losers and take losses.

Trading is the same as gambling,there is a big risk that you might lose all your money by gambling or trading.Keep this in mind before joining these pump and dump waves.Bitcoin for me has more value when I own it in my wallet rather than playing it in trading as it is safer this way.Maybe I don’t win anything but I also don’t lose anything as the value of Bitcoin in Bitcoin remains the same 0.1 Bitcoin is still 0.1 Bitcoin even if in Fiat the value can change.

You win some, you loss some, that how everything works in crypto market. If you thought that you are a victim here then it's better not to trade, just saying. There are millions of traders around the world and we can't dictate them what to do, I would say it is game out there and if you don't know the rules then obviously you will be at the bottom of the food chain. Big players are going to just eat you alive because you chooses to be the victim.

It's not about big and small traders.It's about skillful vs. inexperienced traders.
If you are a small but skillful trader,you will make money.
Trading is a zero sum game.The profits of one are the loses of another.I wouldn't call this robbing,because the traders,who lost had joined crypto trading voluntarily.
Only trade with money you can afford to lose.If you lose,then just quit trading.There's no point of whining or blaming someone else.

If you look at it as being smart, it is true that small traders lost their profits, but I think that's inaccurate thinking. because trading with small or large capital depends on how someone manages it. And we can't blame the big players just because they can change the price movement. This is where we as small traders have to hone our skills, read market analysis, study every chart indicator and so on.
if not, then we will be far behind

Disappointed?? This is happening everyday.
Whales are pumping and dumping coins on a daily basis. Its nothing different from what is happening right now. Big players are pumping and dumping coins leaving some of the small players who risked their money losing.

Freedom?? That is why these big players can do anything they want. Freedom is the reason why this is happening and I don't blame them for doing it since they are free to do it. I don't want this to term as "rob" though. Either way, if you aren't a trader then you aren't affected by this. Possible that you are a trader and you've lost a lot of money because of them. Quite sad for you.

Nobody forced you to trade this currency and treat it in way that it wasn't designed for. You chose to enter trading, and you chose to make bets on short term fluctuations of this currency's price and you lost some of those bets. It sounds harsh but you have noone else to blame but yourself.

Homiey stop it are you locco ?
I want compensate my losess i call my boys wtf
You cant just make website down and run ....
We the streets dont play lije like tht

U c many traders are worry bput the issues

They posted this with their other account, so I'm guessing it's that.

It is up to the trader how he can go with the situation in crypto. All are free to join this market, whether you are big player or not. It is how you strategize to optimize your profits. No one is responsible with your plans here but only you. There will always be big whales and they are also important in this market. Now, up to you how you can use this opportunity to your advantage. And I believe, that yes, crypto is still freedom, it is how you will use it.

What do you mean? What disappoints you here? the sudden spike in the price and then traders shorting BTC? That's how everyone makes money here right? Take every opportunity to squeeze profits.


Banking system is still worst and very much centralised and you don't have control of your funds.


Again, this is not the first time though, play the people behind and not the system. And as other have said, if you don't know how to trade, then don't get yourselves involve otherwise you are going to lose money, regardless of if they are certain entities trying to manipulate the price.